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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    It could well be the seven churches included Gentiles but that doesnt negate them being a Jewish church (believing remnant).........only the remnant can say they are kings and priests As far I can determine so far only 3 of the 7 churches can be verified historically so it is kinda speculation...
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The old testament saints knew nothing of the cross.......prophecy foretold Christ's crucifixion but wasnt clear to them............[1Pe 1:10-11 KJV] 10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you: 11 Searching...
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Paul had helpers who believed before Paul .....they were in the believing remnant
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    the same body is the body of Christ
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    It could be only the twelve ...........could be only the apostles and prophets in the body of Christ....could be both
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    What church......he was not included in the believing remnant of Israel and in fact persecuted it......he was on the way to Damascus to persecute when he was saved......Christ started the body of Christ with Paul's conversion
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    No but this was preached to Israel
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I just got what you are saying....upon his resurrection his spirit went to God....his body went to heaven upon his ascension ....I have to look into this.....my thinking is he would sit on the right hand in heaven after his ascension
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I must not be understanding you......are you saying that John is saying that he is part of the seven churches which includes Gentile believers? I say he is saying that he is brethren to the Israel believers facing the tribulation
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    I just had about a thought in regards to you I know you dont fully embrace Paul .........it came...

    I just had about a thought in regards to you I know you dont fully embrace Paul .........it came to mind that the Jews also spoke against Paul saying he spoke against the law, which Christ upheld in Acts 21:28
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I have found some material to review in regard to the seven churches so if you are inclined, I will possibly be able to resume our topic I thought about our discussion about John saying us:..................[Rev 1:5-6 KJV] 5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first...
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    WHO DOES BAPTISM SAVE?

    Only believing Israel is saved by baptism. Only believing Israel is instructed to be baptized. 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he...
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    Nowhere in the law and prophets would you fine no difference between Jew and Gentile
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    Paul revealed being seated in heavenly places..........not found in the law and prophets which only spoke of the earthly kingdom
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    To be saved Gentiles had to go thru Israel ...................[Jhn 4:22 KJV] 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    You said............ “Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures...” (1 Cor 15:3) That’s not new—it’s newly revealed. That he would die was in the prophets....that by the cross all would be saved was not
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    There is a progressive revelation found in scripture but there is also a distinction in the gospels....they all preached Christ For eternal life Israel had to only believe on Christ, they had to believe on his name....they had to believe he was Christ, the Son of God,,,,,,,,[Jhn 20:31 KJV] 31...
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    JESUS AND THE TWELVE PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL

    Yes !!!!! glad you see that....so many dont
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    REVELATION IS NOT ABOUT THE CHURCH

    Those in Rev 14:12 to me are Israel......Paul never tells us to keep the commandments of the law.......the believing Gentiles were determined not to keep the law ....Paul did say we are given commandments however
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    REVELATION IS NOT ABOUT THE CHURCH

    I am not dogmatic but I wonder if the 144000 could be resurrected saints who are believers in the remnant of Israel