Why is the World Silent About the Largest Genocide of Christians in History?

Wrangler said:

The biggest genocide was in India by Muslims.

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I have studied the issue in detail. I see what you mean. The Muslim conquests in India were indeed marked by massive violence against Hindus—historians like Will Durant call it "the bloodiest story in history." Estimates suggest millions of deaths over 1000 years, including temple destructions and forced conversions. But calling it "the biggest genocide" is tricky—it’s more a series of military campaigns and repressions than a single plan of extermination. For comparison, Soviet repressions took up to 20 million lives in a few decades, and the Holodomor in Ukraine killed 3–7 million in two years.

In the Soviet Union (1917–1991), the anti-religious campaign began right after the October Revolution. The Bolsheviks saw the church as a threat to their ideology and launched a systematic assault on Christianity. In the early years, from 1918 to 1921, over 300 clergy were killed, and 579 monasteries were shut down. By the 1930s, the repression peaked: the Holodomor of 1932–1933 killed 3–7 million people, mostly Christians, and during the Great Terror, 1.5–1.7 million died in the Gulag, including 100,000 priests and active believers. By 1940, fewer than 500 of the nearly 30,000 Orthodox churches remained. Over 70 years, historians estimate that 20 million Christians perished due to executions, famine, camps, and deportations.

What makes the USSR genocide unique? First, its scale: 22 million square kilometers, from the Baltic to the Pacific. Never before had a state attempted to eradicate Christianity across such a vast area. Second, its systematic nature: the anti-religious policy was state-driven, using the army, NKVD, and propaganda. The League of Militant Atheists, founded in 1925, terrorized believers, while closed borders ("iron curtain") left no chance for escape. This wasn’t just a genocide—it was a war on faith.

Compare this to other periods, and the difference is stark. In the Roman Empire (1st–4th centuries), persecutions under Nero or Diocletian claimed 3–5,000 lives over 300 years.
Persecutions were localized and uneven. In some regions (such as Gaul), Christians lived relatively peacefully, while in others (such as Egypt), the persecutions were severe.
Christians could flee to neighboring regions or even beyond the empire’s borders (for example, to Persia), as the borders were permeable.
In conclusion, the persecutions in the Roman Empire were significant but not systematic across the entire territory. The number of victims was relatively small compared to later events.

Why is the USSR genocide so overlooked?

Behold said:

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Behold, you took my quote "Jerusalem belonged to many, but not Jews" out of context. I never said that Jerusalem never belonged to the Jews. My point was that after the destruction of the state of Israel in the 1st century, when the Romans crushed the Jewish revolt and destroyed the Second Temple in 70 CE, Jerusalem no longer belonged to the state of Israel—because such a state ceased to exist until 1948. During that time, Jerusalem was controlled by the Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans, and British, but not by the state of Israel, which didn’t exist.
You suggest watching a video that covers the entire history of Israel in 3 minutes. But I can sum up the history of the state of Israel from the 1st century to May 14, 1948, in 1 second: it’s a blank. The state of Israel simply didn’t exist during that period. However, I can tell you how the state of Israel came to be starting from May 14, 1948:

1. One of the most notable contributions of the USSR to the creation of modern secular Israel was its vote in the United Nations in favor of the Palestine Partition Plan. On November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution No. 181, which provided for the establishment of two independent states—Jewish and Arab—on the territory of Mandatory Palestine. The Soviet Union, led by Stalin, actively supported this plan and voted "in favor."

USSR and the Eastern Bloc: The Soviet Union, the Byelorussian SSR, the Ukrainian SSR, Poland, and Czechoslovakia voted as a united front. This was Stalin’s firm stance. The Soviet Union not only voted "in favor" but also played a significant role in persuading its allies (Czechoslovakia, Poland) to support the resolution.

Great Britain: Abstained.

2. The USSR played a key role in providing the Jewish state with weapons through its Eastern Bloc ally, Czechoslovakia. In 1948, during modern Israel’s War of Independence, Czechoslovakia became the primary supplier of arms to Israeli forces. This included rifles, machine guns, artillery, and even aircraft such as Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighters (in the Czech version, Avia S-199).

These supplies were sanctioned by Stalin and coordinated with Soviet leadership. For example, as part of Operation "Balak," Israel received about 25 aircraft, as well as a significant amount of small arms and ammunition. Czechoslovakia, being under strong Soviet influence, could not have carried out such deliveries without Moscow’s approval. This weaponry played a decisive role in Israel’s success in the war against the Arab armies.

3. The USSR actively contributed to strengthening modern secular Israel through the emigration of Jews from Eastern Europe. After World War II, many Jewish refugees from countries within the Soviet sphere of influence (Poland, Romania, Hungary) were given the opportunity to leave for Palestine/Israel.

The Soviet Union, under Stalin’s leadership, played a pivotal role in the creation of modern secular Israel by providing political support in the UN and ensuring military assistance through Czechoslovakia. Without the Soviet vote in the UN and the supply of weapons at a critical moment in Israel’s history, its establishment could have been significantly more difficult.

In the USSR, they first killed Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family. Then they carried out the most massive genocide of Christians in human history. And then Stalin helped the Jews create Israel. Yes! It was the very murderers of Tsar Nicholas II and his family, the organizers of the most extensive, ruthless, and bloodthirsty genocide of Christians, who aided in establishing Israel

Wrangler said:

The Palestinians had 5 chances and rejected each opportunity.

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Suppose I offer you 5 ways to share your property with me equally. Would you reject all 5, or agree to one of them? If you reject all 5 ways to give me half of all your property—does that give me the moral right to take everything you have, kill you, your children, and all your relatives?

Behold said:

The Arabs which are renamed ""Palestinians"" about 55 obo years ago, had Arafat as their Leader.
He was offered a Palestinian State 2x, and He declined to have it for the Arabs. (Palestinians).
The reason he refused is because to accept it, was his Death Warrant.
Iran would have murdered Him, and Arafat knew it so he declined Arab Statehood 2x., about 25 yrs ago.
It was a done deal......Clinton had it and handed it to him....
IRAN had other ideas.

What you dont seem to grasp, is that The Islamic Religion, has the goal of killing all Jews.
This is Iran's Constitution.........so, they are not interested in a 2-State Solution, as they want to kill all the Jews and then they wil have their land.
The Arabs already have about 95% of the Middle East.

Let me show you something else.

I want you to imagine a Football field.........An American Football Field.

Now walk to the center of the 50 yard line, and place a pack of Playing Cards, on the white Strip, that is the 50 yrd line.....in the middle of the field.
Now what is that?
That is ISRAEL......that pack of cards....and the rest of the football field is ARAB land........right now.
And yet, they want the Jew's little piece of dirt also, and they will do anything to kill all the Jews in Israel to have this little piece of Land.

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1. Why should the Palestinians have agreed to divide their lands and cede a significant portion for the state of Israel in the first place? To me, the logic of the Palestinians is completely understandable. They do not want to give up their lands for the creation of the state of Israel. In response, Israel occupied and annexed Palestinian territories without any plan and without UN resolutions. The fact that Palestinians are not thrilled about losing their lands does not make Israel the victim. On the contrary, their resistance is a natural reaction to injustice.

2. The mere fact that one state wants to destroy another says nothing. There are many states in the world that mutually wish to destroy each other—for example, India and Pakistan, or North and South Korea. But this cannot serve as justification for genocide or mass killings. Humanity has developed rules of war to minimize civilian casualties. However, according to the International Criminal Court (ICC), Israel is likely committing genocide in Gaza. There can be no justification for this, regardless of the intentions of the other side.

3. Regarding your football field metaphor: Imagine if tomorrow Putin declared that he needs Lithuania to create a Suwałki Corridor between Russia and Kaliningrad. Compared to the entire territory of NATO, that would be like a pack of cigarettes on a vast football field. Would you then say, "OK, no problem, Putin, take it. It’s such a small thing"? I doubt it. Your logic that "a small territory doesn’t matter" falls apart when it comes to sovereignty and the rights of peoples.

Your approach simplifies a complex issue, ignoring historical justice, international law, and human suffering. Palestinians did not reject a state simply out of ideological reasons or fear of Iran—they are fighting for their rights and lands, which were taken from them.

Its not Palestinian Land.
The Jew were there 3000 yrs before the name "Palestinian" was created.

That Golden Muslim "Dome" that is near David's Temple......was not there first.
The Jews were there first... its their Land.

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My point was that after the destruction of the state of Israel in the 1st century, when the Romans crushed the Jewish revolt and destroyed the Second Temple in 70 CE, Jerusalem no longer belonged to the state of Israel—because such a state ceased to exist until 1948. During that time, Jerusalem was controlled by the Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans, and British, but not by the state of Israel, which didn’t exist.

The "novelty" is to believe that Jews were not in this land before the "Palestinians".

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On Jews and Palestine: I never said that Jews were not in this land before the "Palestinians." My point was different: the "mishmash" of people who came to Israel from Europe and the former USSR can hardly be considered true ethnic Jews. I vividly remember how, in the 1990s, throughout the CIS, there were advertisements and billboards everywhere offering: "For a low price, we’ll find your Jewish roots and help with repatriation to Israel. 100% guarantee." For a few hundred dollars, anyone who wanted could be "guaranteed" Jewish ancestry. Even now, Google still offers me ads for legal services promising help with repatriation to Israel. Something tells me the situation was similar in other countries, like Argentina. People are the same everywhere. Thus, modern Zionist Israelis are as much "Jews" as Arabs in Egypt are Egyptians. Their connection to ethnic Jews is highly questionable.

Hebrew and Cultural Identity: Even the Hebrew language they use now is an archaic invention, a modern construct created by this "mishmash." Ethnic Jews who lived peacefully with Palestinians in Palestine for centuries managed without this artificial language and coexisted well with the local population. But then this "mishmash," mostly former Soviet citizens, started imposing archaic Hebrew, seizing homes, and occupying Palestinian lands. Now, according to the International Criminal Court (ICC), Israel is likely committing genocide in Gaza. True ethnic Jews are themselves shocked by what’s happening. They do not support these actions.

Ideological Transformation: Consider the irony: just yesterday, a third of Israel’s population consisted of Pioneers and Komsomol members who sang hymns to Lenin: "The battle continues, and the heart trembles in the chest. And Lenin is so young, and young October lies ahead!" Today, those same people are singing: "I firmly believe in the coming of the Messiah. It may not happen soon, but I will wait for him." This song is based on a Hebrew text from Maimonides’ "Thirteen Principles of Judaism"—a declaration of faith that the Messiah will surely come, even if it takes time. But how can we take such a rapid ideological shift seriously? It only reinforces that many modern Israelis are not ethnic Jews but people adapting to a new ideology for political purposes.

Behold said:

Here is the thing.
For some reason, and according to your posts... you've came to this forum to try to "finger point" the standard worldwide Media "lock step" rant that wants to accuse the Jews........the Nation of Israel, as being the reason that everything is wrong in the world.
So, this deception is Obsessing you, which is constantly typically found regarding someone who has been duped by all the "Zionist" heated rhetoric that is created by Fanatical Jew Hatred being 24/7 delivered = on all Media Outlets.

You have the same issue "toward the Jews" that Biden Voters have Toward Trump......and in that case its "TDS.. or Trump Derangement Syndrome" that makes them "Stand up to be counted" regarding how much Vile Hatred they can manifest (spew) toward Him.
And you are the same, but your "syndrome" is JEW related @Chrysostomos , and it'll continue as it has your mind under its power.

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Behold, let me explain. I came to this forum to talk about "signs of the times," Bible translations, theology, and Christianity in general. The first topic I created was called: "Is It Time to Destroy the Whore of Babylon, as God Destroyed the Tower of Babel?" — it got a few responses but quickly died down.

The second, "Do Not Murder vs. You Must Kill: Understanding 'Kill' and 'Murder' in Biblical Commands," received no replies at all.

The third, "What Role Did Pilate’s Wife Play in the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ?" also got no responses.

This topic, the one we’re in now, was my fourth.
I only briefly mentioned Gaza and the fact that, according to the ICC, Israel may be committing genocide. But the main focus of this topic isn’t about Israel. Everything I’ve said about Israel here was a response to your comments. And I haven’t said anything negative — just well-known historical and current facts. Yet you started accusing me just because I don’t unconditionally support Zionist propaganda. What exactly did I say?
The territory of Palestine is disputed. Palestinians consider it theirs.

You accused me of something unclear, just because I mentioned that Palestinians don’t agree that Palestine belongs to Jews based on the Bible.

Then you brought up Biden, Trump, and some "TDS." Honestly, I didn’t understand half of what you wrote. What’s the problem here? I came to discuss Christianity, not to engage in political arguments. If you see something personal or offensive in my words, explain what it is instead of accusing me of having a "Jew-hatred syndrome."

By the way, I specifically asked you: "Let’s be honest: don’t portray Zionists as victims and Palestinians as villains. That’s absurd. Let’s respect each other and stop using cheap Zionist propaganda." But in response, you accused me of Jew-hatred just because I don’t see Israel as the victim and Palestinians as villains. So, if I don’t take your side unconditionally, does that make me your enemy? Is that how it works?

Wrangler said:

In no way is "a single plan of extermination" a requirement for something to be a genocide.

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Speaking of the genocide of Christians in the USSR, it stands out for its unique nature: across a vast 22 million square kilometers, the state systematically eradicated Christianity, using the army, NKVD, and propaganda, closing churches, sending people to the Gulag where up to 1.7 million died, orchestrating the Holodomor that killed up to 7 million, with a total of 20 million Christian victims over 70 years, and with closed borders leaving no chance to escape. Which part of this do you disagree with?

Largely the USSR genocide is overlooked because of Cultural Marxism, which has an oppressor group and an oppressed group. It has decided to cast White people as the oppressor group. So, it would not do to give air time to who White people were oppressed.

For instance, Thomas Sowell, a famous Black Conservative economist points out that more White people in history were enslaved by Black people than Black people were enslaved by White people. This fact goes against the narrative of who is the oppressed group. So, they don't promote it.

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Wrangler: your explanation about Cultural Marxism and its division into oppressor and oppressed groups, where White people are cast as oppressors and thus not shown as victims, doesn’t really explain why the genocide of Christians in the USSR is overlooked. Western propaganda actively called the USSR an "evil empire"—Ronald Reagan used this term in 1983, for instance—but it never highlighted that the communists in the USSR committed the largest genocide of Christians in history, claiming 10–15 million lives. If it were just about Cultural Marxism, that wouldn’t have stopped the West from using such a powerful argument against the USSR during the Cold War.

Wrangler said:

The basic problem is you accepting Islamic Jihadi propaganda as the starting point of the discussion. Let's respect each other and stop using cheap Islamic Jihadi propaganda through their minions at the ICC and elsewhere.

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Friend,
let’s break this down. You said my statement "I only briefly mentioned Gaza and the fact that, according to the ICC, Israel may be committing genocide" is based on "Islamic Jihadi propaganda." But my words are essentially the official formulation of the International Criminal Court (ICC). I took this from headlines in Western media, which, in turn, reference the ICC’s rulings.

Officially, on November 21, 2024, the ICC issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, accusing them of committing crimes against humanity and war crimes between October 7, 2023, and May 20, 2024, in Gaza. ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan stated there are reasonable grounds to believe these individuals "intentionally and knowingly" deprived the civilian population of Gaza of objects essential for survival, including food, water, medicine, fuel, and electricity. This isn’t my interpretation—it’s the ICC’s findings based on their investigation.

The ICC is not "Islamic propaganda." It’s an independent international body created to investigate the gravest crimes, like genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. It operates under the Rome Statute, ratified by 124 countries, and its jurisdiction extends to Palestine since 2015, when Palestine recognized its authority. The ICC isn’t beholden to any religion or ideology; its decisions are based on international law, not Jihadi or any other interests.

You mention "minions of Islamic Jihad" in the ICC. I don’t follow. The ICC isn’t a tool of any one side. For instance, in the same ruling, the ICC also issued warrants for Hamas leaders, like Mohammed Deif, for crimes against humanity and war crimes. So the ICC holds both sides accountable, not just Israel. How can that be "cheap Islamic propaganda" if the court treats both parties equally?

I’m just citing facts, not propaganda. If you think referencing the ICC’s rulings is using "cheap propaganda," explain why. And who, in your view, are these "minions"? It sounds like an accusation without evidence. Let’s respect each other and discuss facts, not throw around charges.

Wrangler said:

Friend, the Muslims lost in WWI and WWII. If they cannot accept the results, then the Great War must resume. It's as simple as that.

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Friend, I’m not against your logic. I just disagree with the idea that Israel is the victim. That’s all I’ve been saying — the territories are disputed, and both sides’ actions raise questions.

As for your claim that Muslims lost in World War I and II, and that the Great War must resume if they can’t accept the results — that’s your prerogative to think that way. But I can’t speak for Americans: are they willing to die for Israel? Let them decide that. As an ordinary person, I’ll say this: Israel alone can’t defeat Iran without direct U.S. involvement. If the USA gets into a direct war with Iran, the consequences will be global. Iran could strike Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and cut off oil and gas supplies. Energy prices would skyrocket, and that would kill the global economy. For what?

Behold said:

A.) The land belongs to the JEWS. (Israel).

(See the HOLY BIBLE) for that Realty Check... @Chrysostomos

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Wrangler said:

The question has an implied premise that is false. It is not their land but the land of the Jews. See that? You are crediting the people who came later AS IF they were first. They weren't.

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I respect your opinion. In the territorial conflict over Palestine, Israel is not the victim. That’s all I wanted to say. I’m not even arguing anymore about whether this "mishmash" are really Jews. Fine, they paid for a certificate of "Jewish roots," got a passport, and became Israelis. Yesterday they sang hymns to Lenin, today they sing about waiting for the Jewish Messiah. Switching sides is normal for people. After the USSR, many threw away their party cards, many moved to the USA, and former party communists became full-fledged Americans. So why can’t they become Jews? That’s it! Let’s set aside all historical, moral, and legal aspects. All that’s left is for American soldiers to defend the Zionists’ right to the land by the principle of "might makes right."

Behold said:

When you stop talking about your idea of "Zionism"........then we'll believe you.

Try that.

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Behold, I don’t get your issue. I came to talk about Christianity, but you keep dragging it back to Israel and Zionism. It’s you who can’t talk about anything else. Try thinking about something other than Israel for once in your life — maybe you’ll manage it.