Why is the World Silent About the Largest Genocide of Christians in History?

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Everyone knows about the Holocaust. Six million victims, the systematic extermination of Jews by the Nazi regime, have become a symbol of horror and a reminder to humanity of the evil that totalitarianism can bring. However, few talk about another genocide, perhaps even more massive, that took place in the Soviet Union. The communist regime, particularly during Stalin's purges, claimed the lives of around 20 million people—a number almost three times higher than the official figures for the Holocaust. But while the six million victims of Nazism are discussed everywhere, the 20 million victims of the Soviet regime are almost completely ignored. Why? And why is this genocide, which targeted Christians among others, kept in the shadows?

The numbers speak for themselves. Twenty million lives were lost in the USSR through individual and mass executions, deaths in concentration camps, artificially induced famines (such as the 1933 Famine), deportations of entire peoples under inhumane conditions, and grueling labor, disease, and malnutrition in exile and forced labor camps. These victims were not accidental casualties—they were the result of deliberate terror aimed at suppressing any form of dissent, including religious life. Even when compared to the official Holocaust figures of six million, the difference is stark. Yet there’s a nuance: the Holocaust figures often include not only those deliberately killed but also those who died of disease, starvation, or Allied bombings. Nevertheless, the world’s attention is focused solely on this tragedy, while the Soviet genocide, especially against Christians, remains virtually unnoticed.

Why is this the case? Why do schools teach about the Holocaust, make films, and write books about it, while the mass repressions in the USSR, particularly the persecution of Christians, are rarely mentioned? There are clear double standards at play. When it comes to Nazi crimes, the verdict is unanimous: it was genocide, period. But mention communist terror, and excuses immediately surface: “It’s not so straightforward,” “Those were political repressions, not genocide,” “It’s hard to prove intent.” Let’s break this down.

According to the UN definition, genocide is “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such.” In other words, genocide isn’t only about targeting people based on nationality, as was the case with the Holocaust. Religious affiliation also falls under this definition. And in the case of the USSR, we are dealing with a deliberate campaign to destroy religious groups, especially Christians.

The facts are clear. At the 4th Expanded Plenum of the Central Committee of the Union of Militant Atheists in early 1938, Emelyan Yaroslavsky, a key figure in the anti-religious campaign, declared that it was necessary to “intensify the work of the godless and ensure that the next decade would be a time of complete liberation of the masses from the reactionary influence of religion.”

In 1939, an article by Oleshchuk in the journal Bolshevik echoed this sentiment: “Every priest, even the most Soviet of them, is a obscurantist, a reactionary, and an enemy of socialism.” The authors called for the third Five-Year Plan to eradicate all religious “remnants” and turn all workers into atheists.

The authorities backed up their words with actions. In 1937 and 1938, over 14,000 churches were closed. Twenty years after the revolution, when all potential “counterrevolutionaries” had presumably already been dealt with, the campaign against religion only intensified. What counterrevolution could there be after two decades? This was no longer about political opposition—it was about persecution purely on the basis of Christian faith.

This policy continued even after Stalin. Many researchers and religious figures agree that the Khrushchev-era campaign against religion in the 1950s and 1960s was the most severe period for religious organizations in the USSR since World War II. Nikita Khrushchev became infamous among believers for his public promise to “show the last priest on TV.” Churches were demolished, priests were arrested or sent to labor camps, and believers faced discrimination and harassment.

If we apply the same criteria used for other historical genocides, it becomes evident: the USSR committed genocide against Christians. Moreover, proving this is even easier than proving, for example, the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, which is widely discussed today. The documents, statements, and archives are all there. So why isn’t this issue being raised on an international level? Why are there no trials at The Hague, as there were for Nazi war criminals? Why isn’t this talked about with the same intensity as the Holocaust?
 

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And why silent about ongoing persecution of Christians around the world?
Good question. Maybe it's because they are not Jews? And were there any genocides besides the Holocaust? Has anyone else heard about the Armenian Genocide? By the way, Israel still has not recognized the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. Another question: in many countries, there is criminal liability for denying the Holocaust. Question: is there anywhere, in any country, criminal liability for denying a genocide that is not the genocide of Jews? And is anyone afraid to say that there was no Armenian Genocide or no genocide of Christians in the USSR, just as they are afraid to say that there was no Holocaust?
 
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Everyone knows about the Holocaust. Six million victims, the systematic extermination of Jews by the Nazi regime, have become a symbol of horror and a reminder to humanity of the evil that totalitarianism can bring. However, few talk about another genocide, perhaps even more massive, that took place in the Soviet Union. The communist regime, particularly during Stalin's purges, claimed the lives of around 20 million people—a number almost three times higher than the official figures for the Holocaust. But while the six million victims of Nazism are discussed everywhere, the 20 million victims of the Soviet regime are almost completely ignored. Why? And why is this genocide, which targeted Christians among others, kept in the shadows?

The numbers speak for themselves. Twenty million lives were lost in the USSR through individual and mass executions, deaths in concentration camps, artificially induced famines (such as the 1933 Famine), deportations of entire peoples under inhumane conditions, and grueling labor, disease, and malnutrition in exile and forced labor camps. These victims were not accidental casualties—they were the result of deliberate terror aimed at suppressing any form of dissent, including religious life. Even when compared to the official Holocaust figures of six million, the difference is stark. Yet there’s a nuance: the Holocaust figures often include not only those deliberately killed but also those who died of disease, starvation, or Allied bombings. Nevertheless, the world’s attention is focused solely on this tragedy, while the Soviet genocide, especially against Christians, remains virtually unnoticed.

Why is this the case? Why do schools teach about the Holocaust, make films, and write books about it, while the mass repressions in the USSR, particularly the persecution of Christians, are rarely mentioned? There are clear double standards at play. When it comes to Nazi crimes, the verdict is unanimous: it was genocide, period. But mention communist terror, and excuses immediately surface: “It’s not so straightforward,” “Those were political repressions, not genocide,” “It’s hard to prove intent.” Let’s break this down.

According to the UN definition, genocide is “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such.” In other words, genocide isn’t only about targeting people based on nationality, as was the case with the Holocaust. Religious affiliation also falls under this definition. And in the case of the USSR, we are dealing with a deliberate campaign to destroy religious groups, especially Christians.

The facts are clear. At the 4th Expanded Plenum of the Central Committee of the Union of Militant Atheists in early 1938, Emelyan Yaroslavsky, a key figure in the anti-religious campaign, declared that it was necessary to “intensify the work of the godless and ensure that the next decade would be a time of complete liberation of the masses from the reactionary influence of religion.”

In 1939, an article by Oleshchuk in the journal Bolshevik echoed this sentiment: “Every priest, even the most Soviet of them, is a obscurantist, a reactionary, and an enemy of socialism.” The authors called for the third Five-Year Plan to eradicate all religious “remnants” and turn all workers into atheists.

The authorities backed up their words with actions. In 1937 and 1938, over 14,000 churches were closed. Twenty years after the revolution, when all potential “counterrevolutionaries” had presumably already been dealt with, the campaign against religion only intensified. What counterrevolution could there be after two decades? This was no longer about political opposition—it was about persecution purely on the basis of Christian faith.

This policy continued even after Stalin. Many researchers and religious figures agree that the Khrushchev-era campaign against religion in the 1950s and 1960s was the most severe period for religious organizations in the USSR since World War II. Nikita Khrushchev became infamous among believers for his public promise to “show the last priest on TV.” Churches were demolished, priests were arrested or sent to labor camps, and believers faced discrimination and harassment.

If we apply the same criteria used for other historical genocides, it becomes evident: the USSR committed genocide against Christians. Moreover, proving this is even easier than proving, for example, the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, which is widely discussed today. The documents, statements, and archives are all there. So why isn’t this issue being raised on an international level? Why are there no trials at The Hague, as there were for Nazi war criminals? Why isn’t this talked about with the same intensity as the Holocaust?

Simple answer—

Nazi Germany kept extraordinarily meticulous records (documents, film) of their crimes and expanded their system so widely, geographically, that they were conquered by defenders from afar (including even the USSR) and the voluminous behemoth of their records were discovered and displayed for the world to see.

It's really just that simple.

The case of Gaza is barely comparable, because coverage is even more wide but, at the same time, as convoluted as could hardly be imagined.

Hamas took the concept of "human shields" to a whole new level, parking fighters underneath humanitarian structures, rather than tying human bodies to the outside of military structures. The tactics of Hamas are so diabolical that analysts are giving their kind of terrorism a new term called "hybrid war," involving all kinds of suicidal and reverse psychology and propaganda, all of which has people scratching their heads, trying to figure out why their basic template of right and wrong doesn't seem to overlay coherently.

The Ukraine war certainly isn't any better in this regard, considering anxious eyes are on Gaza that don't seem to care that there are almost surely over 20 times as many dead bodies lying in eastern Ukraine than there are in Gaza, and most of them are fully grown, but still children in the final analysis.

And welcome to the forum. :)

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Good question. Maybe it's because they are not Jews? And were there any genocides besides the Holocaust? Has anyone else heard about the Armenian Genocide? By the way, Israel still has not recognized the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. Another question: in many countries, there is criminal liability for denying the Holocaust. Question: is there anywhere, in any country, criminal liability for denying a genocide that is not the genocide of Jews? And is anyone afraid to say that there was no Armenian Genocide or no genocide of Christians in the USSR, just as they are afraid to say that there was no Holocaust?

Ah, we're getting to the point now, aren't we?

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Good question. Maybe it's because they are not Jews? And were there any genocides besides the Holocaust? Has anyone else heard about the Armenian Genocide? By the way, Israel still has not recognized the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. Another question: in many countries, there is criminal liability for denying the Holocaust. Question: is there anywhere, in any country, criminal liability for denying a genocide that is not the genocide of Jews? And is anyone afraid to say that there was no Armenian Genocide or no genocide of Christians in the USSR, just as they are afraid to say that there was no Holocaust?

Ever read "Adversus Judaeos," by chance?

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Simple answer—

Nazi Germany kept extraordinarily meticulous records (documents, film) of their crimes and expanded their system so widely, geographically, that they were conquered by defenders from afar (including even the USSR) and the voluminous behemoth of their records were discovered and displayed for the world to see.

It's really just that simple.
1.The evidence of genocide in the USSR is by no means less abundant. The archives of the Gulag, NKVD, and other materials were partially declassified after the collapse of the USSR (for instance, in the 1990s). There exist millions of files on the repressed, photographs of the camps, films (such as liberation footage), and memoirs of survivors (Solzhenitsyn, Shalamov). However, there has been no centralized effort to systematize and popularize this data, as was the case with the Holocaust (Yad Vashem, Nuremberg). So, the issue isn’t the lack of evidence—it’s that no one has collected or is collecting it. Complete neglect and suppression.

2. After Hitler’s defeat, the Third Reich, so to speak, was saddled with "all the blame." A striking example that vividly demonstrates the "integrity" of the Nuremberg Trials is the Katyn massacre. Until 1990, the Soviet Union accused German occupying forces of the Katyn shootings. This version was published in Pravda during the war. In April 1990, the USSR admitted its guilt for the Katyn massacre. One of the key arguments was the discovery of documents showing that Polish prisoners were transported on NKVD orders and subsequently disappeared from statistical records.

That is, the communists shot the Poles in Katyn, yet at the Nuremberg Trials, the communists claimed that the Polish military were executed in the fall of 1941 by German occupying forces. Later, a series of independent investigations also found that the "gas chambers," where Jews were allegedly massacred en masse, are a highly contentious claim.
In short, there are clear double standards at play. When communists committed genocide on a far larger scale, people say it’s not so clear-cut. In fact, it’s completely ignored and not taught in schools as the Third Reich is. Why?
Meanwhile, they pin even the communists’ crimes on the Third Reich. And how much more falsehood the communists fabricated—only God knows.

The case of Gaza is barely comparable, because coverage is even more wide but, at the same time, as convoluted as could hardly be imagined.

Hamas took the concept of "human shields" to a whole new level, parking fighters underneath humanitarian structures, rather than tying human bodies to the outside of military structures. The tactics of Hamas are so diabolical that analysts are giving their kind of terrorism a new term called "hybrid war," involving all kinds of suicidal and reverse psychology and propaganda, all of which has people scratching their heads, trying to figure out why their basic template of right and wrong doesn't seem to overlay coherently.

The Ukraine war certainly isn't any better in this regard, considering anxious eyes are on Gaza that don't seem to care that there are almost surely over 20 times as many dead bodies lying in eastern Ukraine than their are in Gaza, and most of them are fully grown, but still children in the final analysis.

After all, the Jews first expelled the Palestinians from their homes, took their houses and lands. Then they herded all the Palestinians whose homes were taken into Gaza, built a huge fence, checkpoint-fortresses. And then Israel essentially organized a blockade of Gaza. You yourself acknowledge this, in fact. That is, in effect, Israel took the Palestinians' homes and herded them all into an open-air concentration camp. And then they also started bombing from time to time, because the Palestinians didn't really like being robbed and then herded into a concentration camp, and therefore tried to resist in some way. Obviously, only terrorists could dislike something like that. Hamas's most formidable weapon is water pipes. And Israel has the most modern and powerful army in the Middle East, with nuclear weapons and unconditional support from the USA and all the capabilities of the American military-industrial complex.

At the moment, the Jews have killed more than 41 thousand Palestinians, most of whom are women and children. 17 thousand killed children. Although why single out killed women and children? Is massacring peaceful men, including the elderly, a lesser crime than killing women and children?

Then almost the entire housing stock of Gaza was destroyed. That is, the Jews first stole the Palestinians' homes and herded them, the Palestinians, into the Gaza concentration camp, and last year they destroyed all their homes there, in Gaza, so now the Palestinians have nowhere to live at all. Gaza's infrastructure has ceased to exist. The Israelis fulfilled their promise to deprive the Palestinians in Gaza of water and electricity. Here the Jews are great, they keep their word, they didn't deceive.

All hospitals were destroyed by the IDF, as a result of which Palestinians cannot receive medical care, which clearly does not have a positive effect on the mortality rate. That is, 17 thousand killed children - these are directly killed by the IDF, but how many children died of diseases and hunger, no one counts. Although not only children, but also peaceful men, women, the elderly, in general, everyone. But in such cases, Jews say that all Palestinians are Hamas from the moment of conception."

And welcome to the forum. :)

Thank you for the warm welcome.
 
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It is mainly because a secular world is not interested in Christians. If news was accurately reported of Christian persecution, then questions would have to be asked, ' Why do some many different religions and political groups persecute Christians?
What makes them objects for persecution?

Part of the reason for silence is to minimise exposure to the gospel.

The Jews can be discussed as people either love them or hate them and there is no risk of Jewish actions or suffering leading to the gospel.
 

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It is mainly because a secular world is not interested in Christians. If news was accurately reported of Christian persecution, then questions would have to be asked, ' Why do some many different religions and political groups persecute Christians?
What makes them objects for persecution?

Part of the reason for silence is to minimise exposure to the gospel.

The Jews can be discussed as people either love them or hate them and there is no risk of Jewish actions or suffering leading to the gospel.
Thank you for your insight! I agree with you—your explanation that the secular world isn’t interested in Christians because it avoids questions about why they are persecuted by so many groups and seeks to minimize exposure to the gospel makes sense from a religious perspective. It resonates with me and you. But here’s what’s interesting: the secular world, which relies on rational explanations, should have offered its own, non-spiritual justification—perhaps about geopolitics, economics, or media priorities. Yet, there’s nothing of the sort—just silence and neglect. There aren’t even coherent attempts to explain it in secular terms. Why do you think that is?
 

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Thank you for your insight! I agree with you—your explanation that the secular world isn’t interested in Christians because it avoids questions about why they are persecuted by so many groups and seeks to minimize exposure to the gospel makes sense from a religious perspective. It resonates with me and you. But here’s what’s interesting: the secular world, which relies on rational explanations, should have offered its own, non-spiritual justification—perhaps about geopolitics, economics, or media priorities. Yet, there’s nothing of the sort—just silence and neglect. There aren’t even coherent attempts to explain it in secular terms. Why do you think that is?

Because even a secu.ar attempt to explain the wide spread persecution of Christians either risks raising the issue of what they belief or equally importantly risks angeri g important Islamic groups, hindu nations and po.itical groups.
The secular west can't afford to do that.
 
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Then almost the entire housing stock of Gaza was destroyed. That is, the Jews first stole the Palestinians' homes and herded them, the Palestinians, into the Gaza concentration camp,

In 2005, Israel moved out Thousands and Thousands of Jews from their Homes in Gaza.... so that the Arabs in Gaza could have Gaza.
And these Arabs, now given all this land ..... elected Hamas , and from that point in '2005, till '2025, this Land that Israel left so that the Arabs (Palestinians) could have it ALL, has been used to Kill Jews.
That is over.
So, now we see that Hamas and similar death cult proxies governed by IRAN are also being eliminated and there is more death designed for them on the Way.. courtesy of the USA and the IDF, and other Euro nations dedicated to elimination of the Islamic "world wide scourge".

There will hopefully come a day , soon, when Iranians and similar, will be dancing in the streets because their evil Islamic Governments are ENDED, and the people who are treated like slaves, (especially the muslim women)...are found with personal freedom.
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In 2005, Israel moved out Thousands and Thousands of Jews from their Homes in Gaza.... so that the Arabs in Gaza could have Gaza.
And these Arabs, now given all this land ..... elected Hamas , and from that point in '2005, till '2025, this Land that Israel left so that the Arabs (Palestinians) could have it ALL, has been used to Kill Jews.
That is over.
So, now we see that Hamas and similar death cult proxies governed by IRAN are also being eliminated and there is more death designed for them on the Way.. courtesy of the USA and the IDF, and other Euro nations dedicated to elimination of the Islamic "world wide scourge".

There will hopefully come a day , soon, when Iranians and similar, will be dancing in the streets because their evil Islamic Governments are ENDED, and the people who are treated like slaves, (especially the muslim women)...are found with personal freedom.
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I understand that Israel’s leadership has goals of expansion and creating a "Greater Israel" — that’s their political decision. But the way they’ve chosen to achieve this, especially in Gaza, has been labeled by the ICC as likely genocide — that’s not my opinion, it’s their ruling. Let’s respect each other and stop using cheap Zionist propaganda.

When Israel was created, Jews were the minority and held a relatively small piece of land. Over time, Zionists expanded and annexed Palestinian territories that, according to the 1947 UN resolution, were supposed to become part of Palestine. Instead, we had the Nakba, the expulsion of Palestinians to Gaza, followed by the blockade and periodic bombings.

Let’s be honest: don’t portray Zionists as victims and Palestinians as villains. That’s absurd. If Zionists decided to act harshly and break the rules to push through, then go all the way. Say: "Yes, we’re doing it and will keep doing it. If the Arabs oppose us, we’re ready to fight. We challenge everyone to a battle. May the strongest win."
 

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I understand that Israel’s leadership has goals of expansion and creating a "Greater Israel" — that’s their political decision. But the way they’ve chosen to achieve this, especially in Gaza, has been labeled by the ICC as likely genocide

The ICC is not viable.........because All countries are autonomous of themselves.

The ICC< or the Global Court, or the idea of a Global Ruling Authority, that esteems itself to be above the laws of a Sovereign nation, is a big fat piece of political nonsense, that only a dumbed down "Globalist" would buy, or try prove.

So, here is the reality.
20+ Yrs ago... The Palestinians (Arabs) had a perfect opportunity to have their One nation state, but because of Islamic Fundamentalist, who wont have anything but "Kill all Jews, worldwide" as their reason to exist......= Arafat was afraid to commit to the Land Deal "State" because these Nut Bar Islamic religious fanatics, would have murdered Him.
So, that is why Arabs have NO LAND.....and that is not Israel's fault as Israel gave them GAZA 20 yrs ago and have been knocking down Missiles sent in FROM Gaze, ever since.

Now, what is going to happen, is that there is going to be a re-alignment in the Middle East once Hamas is destroyed, and then the Houthis, and the rest of these Jew Hating Fanatics who are taught from the time they are 3-4 yrs old to Hate the Jew.. "destroy the Jew", are going to die as well.
And if they also hide themselves inside Pre-Schools, and Hospitals, using human Shields then a lot of innocent Arabs are going to die, and that will allow all those who are deceived by the Media to stand up and blame the Jews.....as that is how they are trained to Think.
Nothing new.


So.........This is the middle east, and the change that is coming, is not one day too soon for so many who are made to suffer for so long by "Islam".
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Because even a secu.ar attempt to explain the wide spread persecution of Christians either risks raising the issue of what they belief or equally importantly risks angeri g important Islamic groups, hindu nations and po.itical groups.
The secular west can't afford to do that.
I understand your point about the secular world avoiding discussion of Christians due to the Gospel and geopolitics, including the anger of Islamic groups, Hindu nations, and political movements, and that makes some sense. But on the other hand, it’s like asking, 'Why do devils hate God?' and answering, 'Because devils don’t want to hear about God.' It’s a valid answer in your framework, but it doesn’t get to the heart of it. I’m concerned with why historical genocides—like those in the USSR or against Armenians, with plenty of evidence—are ignored by the secular world compared to the Holocaust.

After all, the USSR is history, not a current geopolitical factor like Muslim or Hindu countries. The USA is now at odds with Russia, so why not use that to highlight Soviet crimes? How does this happen? Who or what is behind the manipulation of concepts, propaganda, and the silence of schools, media, and governments? I’m seeking a secular explanation of 'how' and 'why,' not just a spiritual 'because.'
 

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The ICC is not viable.........because All countries are autonomous of themselves.

The ICC< or the Global Court, or the idea of a Global Ruling Authority, that esteems itself to be above the laws of a Sovereign nation, is a big fat piece of political nonsense, that only a dumbed down "Globalist" would buy, or try prove.

So, here is the reality.
20+ Yrs ago... The Palestinians (Arabs) had a perfect opportunity to have their One nation state, but because of Islamic Fundamentalist, who wont have anything but "Kill all Jews, worldwide" as their reason to exist......= Arafat was afraid to commit to the Land Deal "State" because these Nut Bar Islamic religious fanatics, would have murdered Him.
So, that is why Arabs have NO LAND.....and that is not Israel's fault as Israel gave them GAZA 20 yrs ago and have been knocking down Missiles sent in FROM Gaze, ever since.

Now, what is going to happen, is that there is going to be a re-alignment in the Middle East once Hamas is destroyed, and then the Houthis, and the rest of these Jew Hating Fanatics who are taught from the time they are 3-4 yrs old to Hate the Jew.. "destroy the Jew", are going to die as well.
And if they also hide themselves inside Pre-Schools, and Hospitals, using human Shields then a lot of innocent Arabs are going to die, and that will allow all those who are deceived by the Media to stand up and blame the Jews.....as that is how they are trained to Think.
Nothing new.


So.........This is the middle east, and the change that is coming, is not one day too soon for so many who are made to suffer for so long by "Islam".
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You claim Palestinians could have created their own state, but that’s not true. They never had a real chance because they rejected the 1947 UN resolution to divide Palestine into Israel and Palestine. Why? Because Palestinians saw Zionists as foreign occupiers — why should they share land with them? After that, Zionists said: "If you don’t want us to occupy you by the UN plan, we’ll occupy you without any plan." Now, despite partial Palestinian administration, the UN considers all Palestinian territories, including Gaza, occupied by Israel.

I specifically use "Zionists," not "Jews." Why? Because most of them are pseudo-Jews who came to the Middle East from all over the world, mostly from Europe and a third from the USSR/CIS. They’re as much Jews as modern Egyptians are ancient Egyptians. They never lived there. The last Jewish state was destroyed by Ancient Rome in the 1st century CE, and for the last 2,000 years, Jerusalem belonged to many, but not Jews. So why, after two millennia, do these newcomers think it’s their land? Modern Hebrew is a reconstruction, a made-up archaic novelty.

Local Jews who lived peacefully with Palestinians for centuries are shocked by what this mishmash of two-thirds Europeans and one-third former Soviets is doing: occupying, annexing lands, stealing homes, herding Palestinians into concentration camps like Gaza, and now, according to the ICC, committing genocide. This mishmash not only ruined relations with locals but also undermined all Jews worldwide. If anyone hates Jews just for being Jews, it’s these Zionists.

By the way, Hamas was founded in 1987 by Israel during the First Intifada, based on Palestinian branches of the Muslim Brotherhood, to undermine the secular Fatah. So Israel helped create Hamas.

As for your predictions: Zionists are bold because they think Americans will do all the dirty work for them. As long as the tail wags the dog, they feel invincible.
 
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You claim Palestinians could have created their own state, but that’s not true. They never had a real chance because they rejected the 1947 UN resolution to divide Palestine into Israel and Palestine.
The Palestinians had 5 chances and rejected each opportunity.
 
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You claim Palestinians could have created their own state, but that’s not true.

The Arabs which are renamed ""Palestinians"" about 55 obo years ago, had Arafat as their Leader.
He was offered a Palestinian State 2x, and He declined to have it for the Arabs. (Palestinians).
The reason he refused is because to accept it, was his Death Warrant.
Iran would have murdered Him, and Arafat knew it so he declined Arab Statehood 2x., about 25 yrs ago.
It was a done deal......Clinton had it and handed it to him....
IRAN had other ideas.

What you dont seem to grasp, is that The Islamic Religion, has the goal of killing all Jews.
This is Iran's Constitution.........so, they are not interested in a 2-State Solution, as they want to kill all the Jews and then they wil have their land.
The Arabs already have about 95% of the Middle East.

Let me show you something else.

I want you to imagine a Football field.........An American Football Field.

Now walk to the center of the 50 yard line, and place a pack of Playing Cards, on the white Strip, that is the 50 yrd line.....in the middle of the field.
Now what is that?
That is ISRAEL......that pack of cards....and the rest of the football field is ARAB land........right now.
And yet, they want the Jew's little piece of dirt also, and they will do anything to kill all the Jews in Israel to have this little piece of Land.


why should they share land with them?

Its not Palestinian Land.
The Jew were there 3000 yrs before the name "Palestinian" was created.

That Golden Muslim "Dome" that is near David's Temple......was not there first.
The Jews were there first... its their Land.


They never lived there. The last Jewish state was destroyed by Ancient Rome in the 1st century CE, and for the last 2,000 years, Jerusalem belonged to many, but not Jews. So why, after two millennia, do these newcomers think it’s their land? Modern Hebrew is a reconstruction, a made-up archaic novelty.

The "novelty" is to believe that Jews were not in this land before the "Palestinians".

Local Jews who lived peacefully with Palestinians

Jews and Arabs in general, have no issues being in the same Middle East.
Its the Religious Quran toting fanatics who are the problem.
Its Iran's devotion to killing """all Jews""" that is issue.

By the way, Hamas was founded in 1987 by Israel during the First Intifada, based on Palestinian branches of the Muslim Brotherhood, to undermine the secular Fatah. So Israel helped create Hamas.

Thats a complex situation.............and the end result, is that Hamas kills their own on behalf of Iran, and using them as human shields is just one method.....and they are soon to be "history books" only.


As for your predictions: Zionists are bold because they think Americans will do all the dirty work for them. As long as the tail wags the dog, they feel invincible.

The Reason that Jews came back to Israel is because God stated that it would happen.
The Jewish people dont feel "invincible" .. Its not that.......but Jews understand that God's hand is invincible, and that is being proven, in various ways and will continue.
Israel is a True Friend of the USA. In Fact, Israel as a culture is very similar to the USA, regarding religious liberty, civil rights, and democratic ideals.