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Here is what is humerous.
= A perfected sinner.
That is quite a ridiculous phrase, as most Christians would think you meant "the Chief of sinners"... or even The Devil.... but i understand your idea, or the Professors.......yet, its a fail.
Next time, instead of trying to always prove your need to be perceived as "clever" on this Forum.. just be a sincere part of a discussion.....if you can possible do that, @Grailhunter
Grailhunter
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GracePeace
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I've discussed @Behold's views with him, and I learned that we differ, and neither of us is persuaded by the other's arguments.
Also, @Behold hasn't merited discussion with me--he has decided not to answer previous answers I gave him, so, until he answers those answers, I won't invest in another discussion.
Michiah-Imla
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So, Reader..
There is a verse in Hebrews chapter 6, that defines a person who is confessing sin, and trying to keep the law, and worrying about "works" and "behavior" to try to stay saved...as one who has no spiritual maturity.
The Contemporary Christian term for this is "baby christian".
And what is Spiritual Maturity? ??
= Its the knowledge of God, = Gained.....Its revelation knowledge. having a lot of it., and getting more and more .
How do you get this from God?
You receive it constantly from Him, through the word = after you have "worked out your salvation".
Dont want to study the NT? ........ Ok, then go fishing, or make a pizza.. As God wont show you anything, if you wont Study His Word.
See, God is serious about growing Christians into the "fullness of the stature of Christ".......so, when a person won't pray, wont praise God, won't study their bible, wont give God some quality ALONE TIME, everyday.. then God knows that this one is a " carnal dud".. a "wet fuse".. a "dried fruit", whose God is their OPINIONS...... and He is not going to show this one anything, as they are not sincere.
And How do you work out your Salvation?
You work out your salvation by understanding How God views a Born again Christian, as eternally become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", and you keep that as your REAL FAITH.
And once you see this and believe it..... and then maintain this as your Real Faith daily, then you have established the foundation in your spirit man, whereby God can now impart into you, more and more revelation knowledge, so that the "spiritual eyes of your understanding", get more enlightened regarding the Knowledge of God.
There is a verse in Hebrews chapter 6, that defines a person who is confessing sin, and trying to keep the law, and worrying about "works" and "behavior" to try to stay saved...as one who has no spiritual maturity.
The Contemporary Christian term for this is "baby christian".
And what is Spiritual Maturity? ??
= Its the knowledge of God, = Gained.....Its revelation knowledge. having a lot of it., and getting more and more .
How do you get this from God?
You receive it constantly from Him, through the word = after you have "worked out your salvation".
Dont want to study the NT? ........ Ok, then go fishing, or make a pizza.. As God wont show you anything, if you wont Study His Word.
See, God is serious about growing Christians into the "fullness of the stature of Christ".......so, when a person won't pray, wont praise God, won't study their bible, wont give God some quality ALONE TIME, everyday.. then God knows that this one is a " carnal dud".. a "wet fuse".. a "dried fruit", whose God is their OPINIONS...... and He is not going to show this one anything, as they are not sincere.
And How do you work out your Salvation?
You work out your salvation by understanding How God views a Born again Christian, as eternally become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", and you keep that as your REAL FAITH.
And once you see this and believe it..... and then maintain this as your Real Faith daily, then you have established the foundation in your spirit man, whereby God can now impart into you, more and more revelation knowledge, so that the "spiritual eyes of your understanding", get more enlightened regarding the Knowledge of God.
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Grailhunter
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
What on earth are you talking about.
The moment Spirit gave birth to my spirit.......my heart and mind were in harmony...with Gods Living testimony....who is the one who births our spirit into his.
My spirit and mind knew instantly that it was Born Again..
In future please end your teaching with imo, testimony ,belief ....because your teaching is not IMO...taught by the Living authority of the Spirit.
Your teaching is an utter mess and full of confusion for anyone to understand....all in my opinion of course.
You even said this on another topic.which is nowhere to be found in scripture....I wonder where God writes in his word....I will give you the Born again...utter nonsense...
and gives you the "born again".......
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God's way is the way to know Him by being in His likeness through being a doer of His character traits and sin is the transgression of God's law because it was graciously given to teach us how to walk in God's way (1 Kings 2:1-3). For example, in Genesis 18:19, God knew Abraham that he would teach his children and those of his household to walk in His way by being a doer of righteousness and justice that the Lord might bring to him all that He has promised. For has long as God has been eternally righteous there has also existed a way to be a doer of His righteousness, which His law was graciously given to teach us, and the only way to do away with those instructions would be by first doing away with God's righteousness. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he and Israel might know Him, so that is what it means to be under grace. Likewise, in Psalms 119:29, he wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law.
If someone has not been instructed how to walk in God's way and how to avoid sin that is contrary to it, then there sin is not charged against them (Romans 5:13), but not that someone has instructions for how to walk in His way available to them, then it no longer works for them to try to pretend that there is no law. In 1 John 3:4-10, those who continue to be doers of lawlessness have neither seen nor known him and those who are not doers of righteousness in obedience to the Law of God are not children of God, so all children of God are under the Law of God. If we do not have a license to sin, then we are under the Law of God, but if we do have a license to sin, then we are not under the Law of God. The law that we are not under when we are under grace is the law of sin, which leads us in the opposite direction as the Law of God.
1stCenturyLady
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For the most part we agree if we continue to abide in Him.
And yes doctrines of demons are believed by Calvinists because their doctrines are based on twisted Scripture. That demon is Leviathan, the twisting serpent. They are dead inside. Only if they become born again of the Spirit can God cause their minds to become renewed daily. He does the renewing, not us, by revealing new understanding to Scriptures they did not understand before. Then even a Calvinist will repent and seek the Truth and eventually even be born again of the Spirit. That took 30 years for me. Not only Calvinists have the twisting serpent in their doctrines. And yes, this understanding takes a long time for some reason. All we have to do is abide in Him, and then He will abide in us. "Draw near to God and He will draw near to us." And if think we agree on how to do our part. Read the Word and dwell on Him. Then once the key is revealed to you and you take it, our understanding explodes and we can teach others, especially on the number one subject He died for - sin.
1stCenturyLady
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1stCenturyLady
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This we may disagree on or it might just be semantics, and that is who does the renewing. From what you've said you seem to think that it is us renewing our own mind daily. But it is all Jesus. All we are required to do is abide in Him daily and obey what He reveals to our mind and conscience. Also to obey the yearning to study His word that He places in our hearts once we have ears to hear that He also give us.
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