A bit of a mess in the White House.

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ProDeo

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Defeatism 101. America didn't:
  1. Defeat the superpower of the day, Britain, WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  2. Defeat the scourge of slavery WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  3. Conquer the continent WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  4. Become the greatest nation on God's green Earth morally, economically, militarily and technologically WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  5. Defeat Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  6. Go to the moon WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  7. Win the Cold War WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  8. Defeat the Globalist elites who aim for a one world government WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  9. Close the border WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  10. invent the lightbulb WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  11. invent cars WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  12. Develop electrification WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  13. invent computers WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  14. Invent microwave ovens WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  15. Invent the telephone WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  16. Create indoor plumbing WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  17. Create super highways WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  18. Create homes with environmental control, running water, ovens, refrigeration, heat & AC WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  19. Invent the internet WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  20. Double the life expectancy WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  21. Invent all kinds of medicines and cures for disease so we also enjoy a much higher quality of life WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  22. Defeated hunger so badly that obesity is epidemic WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  23. Distribute wealth so home ownership is at all time highs WITH THAT ATTITUDE..
  24. Wealth is so common that leisure time exists allowing all kinds of hobbies, including cultural enrichment in arts and sports WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
  25. Figure out putting wheels on luggage is a good idea WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
Yea, nothing's changed since we emerged from living in cave's! You're ridiculous.
You missed the covid vaccines, thanks USA for that.

But you also missed the spiritual insight, what my posting was about, you do know your Bible?

And national pride mixed with politics and religion is a toxic cocktail as history has learned us.
 

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An ounce of prevention …. Millions of lives might be saved.
If he was such a man of peace maybe he should step into Airforce One and fly to Iran and meet the big shots of that regime.

He does not have the guts for that.

Trump would go and talk to all dictators in the world and stop all wars according to what he said at his rallies.

I watched it, I heard it. It would all be stopped within the first week.

The guy is full of it. He is a deceiver.
It's all BS!!

He went to see "Little Fat Rocket Man" as he called him, in North Korea.
Nothing changed. It was just a show.
North Korea is still producing weapons of mass destruction.

Trump is a first class BS producer, that's all he does.
He appointed a bunch of "YES PEOPLE" around him.

And these people stay with him collecting their fat salaries and pensions.

That's all they are there for. A bunch of liars and greedy deceivers.
But the cracks in this group are already showing.
 
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Huh? That’s absurd. Being a man of peace, he’s giving Iran a chance to repent or he’ll rain down hell on Iran.
From your signature - He trains my hands for war [2 Sam 22:35]

What an odd statement for a Christian.

What do you mean by that?

Linked to your - or he’ll rain down hell on Iran ?
 

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From your signature - He trains my hands for war [2 Sam 22:35]

What an odd statement for a Christian.

What do you mean by that?
The God of the NT is the God of the OT. Even Jesus said I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

Passivism is not Biblical.
 

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Agree.


Disagree.

Trump is quarreling with about the rest of the world, tomorrow April 2 a new round of worldwide tariff increases.

Donald Trump vs. EU: We have been robbed for years and we will not continue to be robbed​

It's nonsense, EU tariffs have been slightly lower than US tariffs, just check it out.

Why he is doing this is a mystery or it must be that he will hit China the hardest, doubling the tariff from 30% to 60%, at least that is the plan.

Realize a couple of things -

1. There is no "the west" any longer.
2. A break after 80 years.
3. And that is irreversible, too much damage.

In June there will be the NATO Summit 2025 and nobody knows how that will end.

There is a new world order, US vs the rest of the world and especially versus China.

MAGA without allies?
All that Trump has done is to hold out the hand to Europe etc to play it nice and fair in fact and the Socialist Marxist Satanist who dominate over the people of their Nations and not to mention They are the very same type of total morons who were just voted out of Office in the USA in fact who are playing to the same Tune as they have with Trump from the begining in fact, Slandering him and everyone who is not Satanic !

Outright Undermining us all for years with all of their total crap and full on Lies ! total out right Gender BS ! you name it !
Creating a younger generation of total morons, Sexualy depraved, cry babys who do not even have a work ethic ! but for just a pathetic a Me me mentality !

The Schooling system is clearly a Satanic joke, they are not educated but only indoctrinated in fact, Just as like your Nazi mate Hitler did in playing such Games with the children, sure in another way the Game is played but it's of the same ends, in creating ouly Dupes for a Satanic Order !
Have a look see ? what do you see with the younger generation, The Schools do not Promote Christ Jesus at all in fact, nor do the so called Christian schools in fact ! They preach mans works Socialist crap !

Who has promoted China ? so as to make such a great threat to the world, Socialist and Very wealthy Socialist, not to mention the likes of G Soros and Co who are hidden by the MSM no end !
Such people who have openly said they want and demand that the worlds population has to be reduced but up to 80 % That's 8 out of 10 people have to be killed !
They have said such in fact and the Media turn a blind eye to all such comments !

If you came out and said, you have a Plan to wipe out 8 in 10 people down the local shoping center, I think the Media would expose you and the people would not be impressed with such a one !
But why does such real wealthy like I pointed out, can get away with wanting to creat a Offering to their gods to offering up 8 in 10 people on earth and get away with it scot free !

Do you all not even understand that The Burnt Offering was a creation for their gods that they Idolise in fact ! who set them Jews up ? so called Jews within set them up in fact !
Who was it who wanted to Kill Moses ?
Who were the outright Child molesters within the Churches and who and what did not expose them ? not to mention why ! because clearly Satanist are within. and playing the majority for total fools in fact !
It's so easy for them because most Christians are not truly born again, but only religious Dupes ! They are of this world that is Full of Deceptions and Delusions in fact ! for they Idolise the Whore !
 
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Even Jesus said I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

Passivism is not Biblical.
As usual, can be easily misinterpreted when taken out of context.

Christ's arrival in the world will bring division, as even family members turn on each other over the issue of whether He is the Messiah.

Jesus says those who love family more than Him are not worthy of Him.

He further heightens this idea of radical loyalty by comparing it to carrying one's own cross: a metaphor for death.

Those who do follow Him, though, will find the life that is true.

Those who go their own way will lose their lives, no matter what they find on earth.

This passage follows Jesus' instructions to the Twelve as they prepare to spread the gospel
 
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By Wrangler: Even Jesus said I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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Quoted out of context.
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You sound like a muslim.......kill them all in the name of peace.

Sickening for a Christian to talk like that.
 
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Wrangler is unfortunately caught up in the delusion, as are many more. They seem to think trump is going to fix it all with his golden age. I thought that way once too. Even though I’ve been accused by others here of being a democrat liberal simply because I don’t buy into trump or any other political group or organization.

The political democrats were so obviously satanic and morally corrupt it drove people in masses to trump. Every follower of Christ should agree abortion, transgender, etc that was a hallmark of the so called left is morally bankrupt. It’s a massive psychological war. They are all same side, two sides of the same coin, as I’ve said before, months ago.

I could list hundreds of examples in this thread about trump and elon, the coming ai image of the beast, the golden age aka false light, people who have been given over to their delusions would still make excuses or ignore it completely. All interwoven with the new age Christ consciousness and interfaith nonsense put by the Catholic Church. More on that coming soon…. elons roman salute. trump being compared to Cyrus by the jeews, and constantine by the greeks, just recently too. Or the true connotations for maga/maha, trumps love and adoration for all things apollo other greek gods. Or elons summoning of the demon ai and his tranhumanism agenda. All of their own words. But you just go ahead and keep your head in the sand and see how that works out for you.

Rome is rising again, it would be well to remember that last time it did and how that went for followers of Jesus Christ. I’m sure Paul has a few words for you about that. Wake up.

Gods in control, and you would do well to be lovers of the Truth. Not my truth, or the medias truth, or bidens, or trumps, Gods truth. He will answer you if you really wanna know. You may not like it, it may shake your foundation, and rightly so If it does. that’s why most people don’t really ask. They are comfortable living in egypt, just as the Israelites were back in the exodus days.

TPTB are all on the same satanic side. Red vs blue, black vs white, nation vs nation is a construct of satan designed to do exactly what is doing now, steer people away from Jesus Christ, and their salvation.

trump isn’t a follower of Jesus Christ, never has been. his followers are quick to look away or explain away all the obvious signs, because they are still of this world. Come out of her. Seek refuge in Jesus Christ alone. Be lovers of the Truth.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Iran isn’t a boogie man, just like Russia wasn’t during the Cold War. The war is for your soul, best get on the right side now. Be a follower of Christ alone, stop looking to man to save you, otherwise you’re going to be in for a bad time. God speed.

Have you ever been to combat wrangler?
 

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Wrangler is unfortunately caught up in the delusion, as are many more. They seem to think trump is going to fix it all with his golden age. I thought that way once too. Even though I’ve been accused by others here of being a democrat liberal simply because I don’t buy into trump or any other political group or organization.

The political democrats were so obviously satanic and morally corrupt it drove people in masses to trump. Every follower of Christ should agree abortion, transgender, etc that was a hallmark of the so called left is morally bankrupt. It’s a massive psychological war. They are all same side, two sides of the same coin, as I’ve said before, months ago.

Rome is rising again, it would be well to remember that last time it did and how that went for followers of Jesus Christ. I’m sure Paul has a few words for you about that. Wake up.

Gods in control,

trump isn’t a follower of Jesus Christ, never has been. his followers are quick to look away or explain away all the obvious signs, because they are still of this world. Come out of her. Seek refuge in Jesus Christ alone. Be lovers of the Truth.

Iran isn’t a boogie man, just like Russia wasn’t during the Cold War. The war is for your soul, best get on the right side now. Be a follower of Christ alone, stop looking to man to save you, otherwise you’re going to be in for a bad time. God speed.
What Leader in the world can openly talk about their faith as being a Christian ? Non have ! because it would be the end of their political position in fact !

We once had a Premier who was outright Christian who as Premier took the time even and taugh Sunday school, that was back before 1987 and boy did the Left and the MSM give him a hard time 24/7 about that, not to mention Slandering him at every chance.

Iran problem is because of it's hell bent moronic filthy Islamic trash and Russia was hell bent because they were all under the Satanic power of Communism !

Do not worry Trump will expose much of the USA and the world from all of the real cunning rat bags of this world ! and he has started to do so !
Rejoice it's truly wonderfull to see the Satanist exposed ! I, We are sick of all such demands being forced on us over the years, yep thanks to real men like Trump who have the integraty to fight back !

God is in control ? so you claim it's God who has created the Satanist ? or is it your gods ?
How can anyone say God is in control, you can not beat God in fact, as such will win out in the end regardless, but Man who is Carnal or Carnal Religious knows not God in fact ! so how can one say God is in charge ? he is not steering the Ship of fools ! clearly carnal Man has been, because Jesus pointed out about this world is full of deceptions and delusions.
So who is in charge ? Carnal Man is always a bastard.

What Christian supports Islam ? a foolish outright moron ! because clearly have not a clue.

Rome ? Rome fell because of such sick outright queers that's being promoted by such that God clearly despise ! Not to mention every Church denomination is clearly been pandering to such Satanist in fact !
 

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As usual, can be easily misinterpreted when taken out of context.

Christ's arrival in the world will bring division, as even family members turn on each other over the issue of whether He is the Messiah.

Jesus says those who love family more than Him are not worthy of Him.

He further heightens this idea of radical loyalty by comparing it to carrying one's own cross: a metaphor for death.


Those who do follow Him, though, will find the life that is true.

Those who go their own way will lose their lives, no matter what they find on earth.


This passage follows Jesus' instructions to the Twelve as they prepare to spread the gospel
Exactly.

Context, context, context.

The whole of Matt 10 is about the instruction of the twelve sending them as sheep in the midst of wolves (v16) and its consequences.

Matt 10:16 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
Matt 10:17 Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues,
Matt 10:18 and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles.
Matt 10:19 When they deliver you over, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say, for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour.
Matt 10:20 For it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
Matt 10:21 Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death,
Matt 10:22 and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.
Matt 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Last words of Jesus instructing the twelve -

Matt 10:42 And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”

Next verse -
Matt 11:1 When Jesus had finished instructing his twelve disciples, he went on from there to teach and preach in their cities.

Nothing to do with war between nations.
 
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The God of the NT is the God of the OT. Even Jesus said I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34
@Triumph1300 gave you already a lesson on the use of isolated verses without understanding its context.

From your signature - He trains my hands for war [2 Sam 22:35] is another example of that, did you read the whole chapter?

2 Sam 22:1 And David spoke to the LORD the words of this song on the day when the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul.

The song to the Lord starts here -

2 Sam 22:2 He said, “The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer,
2 Sam 22:3 my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge, my savior; you save me from violence.
2 Sam 22:4 I call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised, and I am saved from my enemies.

The song to the Lord ends -

2 Sam 22:47 “The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock, and exalted be my God, the rock of my salvation,
2 Sam 22:48 the God who gave me vengeance and brought down peoples under me,
2 Sam 22:49 who brought me out from my enemies; you exalted me above those who rose against me; you delivered me from men of violence.
2 Sam 22:50 “For this I will praise you, O LORD, among the nations, and sing praises to your name.
2 Sam 22:51 Great salvation he brings to his king, and shows steadfast love to his anointed, to David and his offspring forever.”

King David was not making war, he was under attack.