Yahweh or Jehovah?
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Jesus isn't offended by the English language. That is why the greatest modern voices of the Gospel message were English and American evangilists. The greatest voices of the Praises to Jesus ever heard were the black Americans. The greatest friends of the nation of Israel are the Christian Americans. Jesus is not offended. When God spoke to Abraham and said he would be the Father of many NATIONS, God didn't mean just Israel, since in Abrahams time Israel wasn't even in the discussion. Satan knows exactly who Jesus is, and in His name I have deliverance, healing, and salvation. Power unknown to this carnal world. What I said is what I meant...JESUS!
Wick Stick
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Wick Stick
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My post was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end means. Apparently that shorthand isn't well-known here.
If it wasn't well known, It now is; that Jesus is the name above all names. Who cares you know shorthand?My post was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end means. Apparently that shorthand isn't well-known here.
quietthinker
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......and no doubt that of the common folk as opposed to that of the 'queens' english.
He speaks today in every language of the world. He said He wants the bible preached in every corner of the earth and then He will return, because then, there will be no excuse left for anyone. He died for everyone, regardless their language. Telling Him you don't speak ancient Hebrew and therefore He can't judge you...WON'T WORK PAL!
David Lamb
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quietthinker
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quietthinker
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It was the Christians who asked the Jews, which writings belonged to their collection. Till then, there were scattered manuscripts here and there. None of the Jews had the 'whole' collection.
Its was because the Christians were on their case re which manuscripts (scrolls) where deemed 'holy' by the Jews that what we have today as the OT, came together.
David Lamb
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Really? So what did Jesus mean when He said:
“"You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.” (Joh 5:39 NKJV)
Or:
“Then He said to them, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me."” (Lu 24:44 NKJV)
You said: "Till then, there were scattered manuscripts here and there. None of the Jews had the 'whole' collection." Yet in the 1st Century, synagogue services included readings from the law (the Torah, the first 5 books of the bible) and the prophets.
Lambano
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Wick Stick
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Apologies if I offended. That wasn't my intent.
The irony of introducing a second name to argue about in a topic already arguing about a name was something I found funny.
quietthinker
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The synagogues didn't all have the same scrolls (writings). Some had the writings of this prophet, some of that prophet. Remembering that these scrolls were copied by hand; his was usually brought about by richer patrons who commissioned scribes. There were also writings that never made it into what we now have as the OT.
As said in the last post, prior to the Christians putting pressure on the religious Jews to qualify what they considered scripture, it was a loose collection. The poorer synagogues only had a few, the wealthier more. Nevertheless, this loose collection of writings was known as The Scriptures.
Sorting out what was deemed worthy of scripture was a similar process to the making of what we know as the NT. Some of the writing circulating at the time of this coming together never made it into the collection of the NT. As you know, The Catholic version of the Bible has additional books (writings) known as the Apocrypha
Here's one dictionary's definition:
Apocrypha | əˈpɒkrɪfə | plural noun [treated as singular or plural] biblical or related writings not forming part of the accepted canon of Scripture. • (apocrypha) writings or reports not considered genuine.
The Old Testament Apocrypha include writings (dating from around 300 BC to AD 100) which appeared in the Septuagint and Vulgate versions but not in the Hebrew Bible; most are accepted by the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches as the ‘deuterocanonical’ books. The New Testament Apocrypha include texts attributed to Apostles and other biblical figures but not regarded as authentic by the Councils of the Church
Grailhunter
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No "J's" in the Old or New Testament scriptures.
When did the Isrealites stop pronouncing Yahweh's name?
The Tetragrammaton in Paleo-Hebrew (fl. 1100 BC – 500 AD) (two forms), and Aramaic (fl. 1100 BC – 200 AD)
The Tetragrammaton appeared 6.800 times in the Old Testament and they were all removed and replaced with the words God or Lord or both.
Any word that represents a person or place or thing in your Bible that starts with a J was actually a Y in the scriptures. Christ's name is Yeshua but it is not in the scriptures. The Greek word that represents Christ's name in the New Testament.....Iesous is not a name, it is a Greek word that means healer. As it is the names of God the Father and God the Son are not in your Bible. Unless you have a Sacred Names Bible.
The letter J came out in the 1400's but it was made popular by William Shakespeare and was used in the King James Versions of the Bible which was written in Shakespeare's poetic style of languange.
When the Apostle wrote "all scripture is inspired of God..." (2 Timothy 3:16-17) what scriptures was he referring too?
David Lamb
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I take it to have referred immediately to the existing Scriptures, the Old Testament. However, it wasn't long before scripture was being used to refer to New Testament books too:
“Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation — as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.” (2Pe 3:14-16 NKJV)
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