Is freewill real or just something we invented it ?

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Does 1st Corinthians 7:22-23 have anything to do with Free Will?

Was working hard to find and analyze and had talk with others about the verse you said and others stated the same we have to analyze and see it in english and in greek.

1 Corinthians 7:22-23

22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.

1 Corinthians 7:22
ὁ γὰρ ἐν κυρίῳ κληθεὶς δοῦλος ἀπελεύθερος κυρίου ἐστίν · ὁμοίως ὁ ἐλεύθερος κληθεὶς δοῦλός ἐστιν Χριστοῦ




  • 1 Corinthians 7:23
    ἀνθροπος ἀγορασθεις τιμη, μη γίνεσθε δοῦλοι ἀνθρώπων







    We see there is difference and here we look at a small analyze of freewill of greek philosophy.



  • Ancient Greek philosophy didn't have a specific term for "free will". Instead, discussions about free will focused on responsibility and what "depends on us" (in Greek ἐφ ἡμῖν).



    Explanation
    • The ancient Greeks believed that people act as they do because it's in their nature to do so.
    • Greek tragedies explore the complex relationship between fate and free will. Characters struggle with predetermined destinies while making choices that shape their outcomes.

    • Aristotle believed that humans have free will because they can choose their actions within the limits of their natures.
    Related concepts
    In the city-state of Athens, "freedom" was understood to mean the right of the free citizen to participate in political deliberations. This included speaking, debating, and voting.


    Synonyms for "free will": voluntary and spontaneous.
 

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Dear Hey You:

Freedom exist that there Paul says you believe in our lord savior Jesus he free us. Haleluya that is good ;D. He saves us because we are slaves of sin. I see Jesus loves us and we have freedom. I will tell ay the word for freewill is not and not hebrew word for freewill is niether there. bechirah chofshit בחירה חפשית, bechirah בחירה)


Still in Jesus we are free if we choose to believe he saves from slavery and ti is true Jesus saves us from slavery ? Yes even though the word in hebrew or Greek is not coined together. You have to choice to believe in Jesus or not. We freewill their even though it is not written like we do today.

Remember people freedom to choose exist. If we do not have Bechira Chofshit and God told us to choose life or death he tell us to choose life ! He said it.

Freewill did existed and in Deutronomy 30:19 God did give a choice two but still he did. And life is a good choice a great choice.

God didn't give a law so it does not affect yoru works he agve a law that does affect you freewill because how you obey his commandments exist and consequence exist to your good works or bad. Remember it did not affect us our choices then we will not have death and death will not happen to us. And if death happens just break one law.

God judges your good works with freewill or bad works.

God gave choice and it is simple please. Choose life.
 

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6.Baptized yoruself become a better tool or a better servant to the Lord and one of those things that God wants you to have is be a baptized and obey him. Once you baptized God will reveal his mission to you he will reveal the personal mission you were sent. Sometime we are sin and being baptized changes us and makes us cleaner. Better servant to God.

7. Another Biblical way to find the personal mission God sent you. Is after you baptized make a deal with God, a promise, and vows to God. It exist that women can do vows and husbands can forgive them.

Here's the short answer: all vows are sacred; some are also foolish (Prov 20:25; Eccl 5:2–4). Breaking any vow is sin (Deut 23:21; Eccl 5:5–6; Num 30:15). God will forgive vow-breakers (Num 30:5, 8, 12; cf. 1 John 1:9), though He warns there may be dire consequences for failing to keep a vow (Eccl 5:6).

God will accept a vow their is in the bible, kings who were evil says the bible and repented and they made pledges to God and change thier way to lead his people. God gives those opportunities and you will promise God no more drinking, gambling and if your dream is a business or he wanted you to do business for his plan to enact in this world. Say you will give a part to him and give him. When this is done God will bless and you pass a test he will give the personal mission. It is God's plan you endure hardships to fulfill the personal mission and other who have done it have recieve the personal mission. God does fulfill promises to you.


8. Dreams are a way also God uses man. joseph was an example and did the plan of God and he fulfill God's word of his message of the dreams jospeh recieve it is complicated and dreams are messages God can send for you to do his will and purpose. It is hard you can pray god for a dream. I do not know all of it but deepstudy freewill and women area of the bible. The dream thing is complicated but for those who recieve a dream and you have it many time it perhaps what God is sending you to do and you must figure it out.

9.Breakthru all your prombelm and be astute and solve your promblem pray to God he will deliver. Be smart sometimes you ahve to do what the prophets did to go find the personal mission or complete it.
Proverbs 2:6:
"For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding."

  • James 1:5:
    "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."
    • "With the kind You show Yourself kind, With the blameless You show Yourself blameless, With the pure You show Yourself pure, And with the crooked You show Yourself astute".

matthew 10:6​

Jesus taught his followers to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. This means combining the wisdom of the serpent with the harmlessness of the dove.

10. Do nothing is part of his plan is the last after you do all this is what a story we talked about you will get you answer at the end of the life. It could be your at 70 and God will reveal his mission to you at the end because is when you will do your stuff it could be starting a business, finally reconcile with a love one and found she was true love. After so many errors they love each other forever, or recieve inheritence from uncle. Those things happen in real life and are the plan of God. Be astute to do all this things ask help from your church, your friends, and family and also above all from God's and he will move it all for you and change it because God forgives and he is beyond you and has mercy. He does not betray the world will betray but he will not. Like the bible says he is not like us he is God. And God who will help those who don't have food and no cloths and he does not forget your promise.

He will do it but how much of yoruself are you willing to give and he will reward because worst than you and unworthy have asked his help and he has help those people. And people who have done more crimes than you were saved and baptized. You who are son of Israel or daughter and a son will be giving what you want sacrifice more and he will give to both of you. That's a promise he does fulfilled.
 

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Another story this one I can tell ya.
Mary the mother of Jesus knew she was borna nd her purpose and the angel Gabriel came to visit her and tell her. Is it biblical that women can find their purpose ? Yes. Mary knew and she was a brave women and smart. She avoided so many promblems and she made hard decisions to avoid being caputred and even had her baby in the manger. She was astute and always protect Jesus. She was really a brave woman and did the plan of God. And she did the hard women do in life to bring a savior to this world and let him die to save us. She is an example that faithful women and women who obey God and are astute did his plan and found why they where sent and why her plan was given by the lord.
Many women in the Bible knew their purpose in life, including Hannah, Mary, Anna, and others.

Hannah

  • Prayed to God and brought her brokenness to him
  • Received a child named Samuel from God
  • Vowed to give Samuel up to be trained in holy discipline
Mary

  • Trusted God's plan for her life and gave birth to Jesus, the Messiah
  • Faced uncertainty and fear, but followed God with faith, hope, and trust
Aslo Hannah is one who did God's plan.
 

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Gonna talk quick about this. Also another way says the bible is dreams. It is biblical.
We will look at one biblical one also we see also thru dream goes reveals your purpose and one prophet joseph found how to know he's purpose is thru dream bible says dream and vision will be given to the old and the young. Does god give dream and tell people how to the mission eh sents. Yes he does he did for Jospeh and he will do it to others. It is complicated I don't go thru their because I don't have dreams nor do I recieve dreams like joseph. But I know heard about that and their are stories of Jews, women, and another modern person who had dreams.


Joel 2:28-29.
28 “And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.
29 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days.

They found true love and dreamnt him, Jews who had dreams from God in this modern day and one had a dream of being in accident and he didn't go to avoid the dream and he saved himself . That Jew had dream about it but some dreams come true and did not. He is modern jew of this century. And another normal modern man had dream of someone who was buried in his house and he was murder so everynight he would have the dream again and again. He decided to go to a place and found the dead body and he buried him.
This are the things that happen and it is frightening perhaps the man who dreamnt about the dead body and he went to dug him up was the purpose of him being there and God planned this is how it will go with the plan of God. The bible says it.

Acts 2:17. 17 “ 'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Job 33:15-18
15 In a dream, in a vision of the night,
when deep sleep falls on people
as they slumber in their beds,
16 he may speak in their ears
and terrify them with warnings,
17 to turn them from wrongdoing
and keep them from pride,
18 to preserve them from the pit,
their lives from perishing by the sword.[a]

Not going to enter in all fo this. I have not done deepstudy of how God does that and our body does it by science. It is complicated. I do not have dreams I had dream a long time but I did learn God from research and bible verses. Dedicated to him my whole life but do not know all the science and how Joseph recieve his information.

But still God uses this and uses this type of methods and whatever purpose and how he does it he knows. I know some prophets in the bible did use dreams to recieve information and did God's plan recieving dreams. I will not go talk about this much did not do deepstudy for this only freewill and women bible part only. Only Expert on those sides of the bible.
 

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Many people in the Bible found their purpose by following God's will, including Moses, Abraham, David, Ruth, Esther, and others.

Moses

  • A Hebrew who was raised in Pharaoh's palace, Moses is an example of how God can use people who don't think they are qualified.
Abraham

  • Abraham obeyed God's command to leave Mesopotamia and travel to the Promised Land.

David

  • King David was a successful warrior who defeated Goliath, but he also faced jealousy and attempts on his life from King Saul.

Esther

  • Esther was an influential teenager who encouraged others and taught them the impact they could have on others.

Other people who found their purpose Joshua, Joseph, Ruth, Solomon, and Rahab.

The Bible's stories of these characters are intended to teach people how to fulfill their destinies and do God's will.

Romans 8:28 says, "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose".
 

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Part 1: The real wisdom to find in the bible ! Part of freewill.

People we have done good and we have found questions that show us that there is a way to find our purpose or personal mission God gave us to do his will in this world. And some have found the answers to their questions and one ask the question of the difference between wisdom, intelligence, knowledge, intution, and instincts that we use in our mind to use when we decide and we use in our life. All this abilites exist and pyschology explains part of our mind and brain use them to discover life and how life functions. The difference is intelligence.

The ability for the brain is what your brain knows and apply to your life to decide move, calculate, and decide. Intelligence is limited but the promblem is you do evil and people use evil is more easier to do. Good is an option but if a person is educated and knows only evil it is going to be destroyed. You don't use your mind and life for a full purpose of what your originally meant and God wanted.

Intelligence can be used for good or evil you can have an iq 160 but your evil you will destroy your life and won't realize your potential.

Knowledge is the experience of those people who learn from errors and tries based on facts and logic. Sometimes logic is basic of human efforts in our history the people wrote in books their experience and thanks to them we know facts and thanks to that we can decide scientifically, pyscological, and logical based on experience and reading those books. It is good but will tell ya that for a christian it is not the base for you to find the answers God gives you in the bible ? Why ?

Simple people experiences of those people have errors and see God want us to believe in faith and have faith to use in our life and our course in life. You will see in course of history of the bible God has proven those people wrong ! Sigmund Freud, Confucius, Socrates, and Nietzsche they are wrong and their logic had errors but remember always pinned against God and what the bible says. The bible has proven them wrong in logic and God using his miraculous works of God. Has proven all of humanity laws of physics and logic are limited and fail because logic and his system is superior to all. God holded time in the bible and he can do it, God cured the sick in the old testament, parted the red sea, Jesus cured and is man who was prophet. Logic and facts against God can be changed by hsi will because he is God and he is creator of all the universe and this angers scientist and philosophers.
You cannot use human experience and human logic to understand the universe we are small humans that only stand in the existence of this universe for a short time compare to all the things God created. We have limits and i'm happy our God is beyond all that and has those athourities and shows us our purpose and teaches us that love and faith is the path for us to know more than all that and he gives us the wisdom which is the most important thing for us us in our life of our mind. Will get to that but scientist and philosophers is that all their experience and facts come from God and I believe science can answers some God's creations and systems he gives.
 

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But still knowledge is based on our limits to see with our eyes and touch and feel with our body. The physical is relied or the body is relied on to assert on facts and logic. If you based your life on what you see is what you believe in or you believe in what you touch and based on experience you base your life on those people what they touch and they saw you will see you will get some answers but majority you will get errors. Why ?

Because they don't know it all and wars, prejudice, and errors come from human logic that what they cannot understand they must destroy to keep control and fear the strange so your life does not change and it si easy. This is the basic of humans civilization you all know it and depends on some people what their errors are in history. Sin is in us people and we are limited and all of humanity is basic to that. People you can use knowledge for good and evil but the reality it is better to use for the Lord and do service to him and find that knowledge can do good if you do it his way. God didn't give our brain or mind to take the right advantages in life he gave it to us to learn from our erros and become better people and the bible will guide us in using those books and discerning which serve him to help psychologically humanity. All is for a purpose said in the bible.


Instinct is the natural ability of the body to guide your life and react to a moment in life. Instinct does not rely on good or evil but survival it will use it as tools to survive. It will be used to survive in the jungle and dangers it can move your body with out you noticing it sometimes it is good to have instinct because it can evade danger and if you feel a piano falling on you. You move without noticing it. It is important but because of truamas or evil in your life. Fear in you it cannot work and it is blocked by your memories and truamas. instinct is important and when you make decisions in your life that decide your future it is important that you amke decision in quicka nd effective way. Why ?
 

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Sometimes you don't realize if you push your friend from a fall from a canyon it will work or notice someone who is going to steal from you and your body moves to stop them helps for reason to keep the object in case you needed in a moment in your life to save someone or evade being late from a bus to reach your job and don't get fired. The abd thing is that your instinct are from your ancestry and perhaps you were a viking or roman soldier and your not normal compare to others because your violent and react faster to violence and you cannot control urges and you destroy your life and hurt everyone you love. Sometimes it happens and you need training and it will help you. God will help to change it and prayer helps you clean your life so truamas go, fear go, and your instincts become natural again like God made you without the violence and use them for good.

Next is intuition that is powerful ability that your mind not pyshically will react like instinct but will do things spirtually. Sometimes intuition will help ya to avoid a dark alley and make the decisions that your future depend and know naturally and automatically to reject evil ways and avoid jobs that might take to an accident or troubles. The difference from intuition and instinct is that will tell ya intuition is based on the mind and the subconsciouness and intuition cannot control instinct based on your violent past or you limited knowledge about it. It is better to know more about it and it involves knowing yourself more. That the important things is that intution is above if you lose control of your life and take drugs that make go overdose and your body loses conscience instinct will control your body like king Nebuchadnezzar who went wild and became an animal again. Sometimes in life intuition will be guided by God to avoid dark alleys and God uses your intuition and you must pure and clean yoruself to be a better servant for the lord and a tool so you can do what God's people did in the bible. It is hard but can be done and the bible helps.


The next one is the important one because ti is how God wants to use your mind and best way you will find what God wants for you. Wisdom is liek knowledge based on error and tries that what you read from books of knowledge you know logic and science and facts. But a diffrence from them all is that intelligence can lead you to evil and wisdom is using your mind based on your experience and your errors and how to fix them in your lfie absed on the knowledge from books and use your mind to do what you want but this the important to do things like God wants. Yes this hard because the error of humanity and they don't notice is sin they do not acknowledge errors and want to be perfect and intelligence, knowledge, instincts can stop you and do not permit you to do God's will ! Becuase it is not the right way to do what God does and correct you. We are all blind and we have erros because we are educated by the world and this is the way to fix it God's way.
 

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Because wisdom is not based on high iq intelligence you can be so smart and know everything digitally but do not know love and not be loved you destroy yourself automatically. You know people who have went that way Hitler, Kings of France, Popes who use war and violence they were smart but in the end their intelligence destroy them and they could not fool God and ended them. That is reality the people with glasses you see in television and are nerds sometimes looks can be decieving and we dont' know some of them can be evil killers like them but serial killers that have high iq but because they were abuse they became murderers and thei parents beat them. It is serious and it is human nature that is in humanity that exist and is evil. God will judge them and remember let God judge them.

Intelligence is limited or go to be like scribes and use knowledge but unfortunately scribes and librarians you see them in the library not the modern ones but history there have been some selfish ones. They keep books wasted their time collecting them all and dont' read them them it is impossible. But to control knowledge so the poor can't study them and keep it to themselves. They keep control of them so that way they want to control and think they can control you. They wasted their lives and collected them all and became a wall then a prison to you. And you finally realize your alone and no one loves you and family left because pursuit of knowledge blinded of the importantant things in life. Your family and your friends, no don't end up like them -_- they messed up, they made their errors.


Knowledge is to help people so people can advance in their life and achieve what they want. Millions suffer so the future children can make better decisions thanks to their self sacrifice and denial of themselves. Your those children but the world blinds you and instead of taking God's path you decide to take your path because you copy the people around you and see television.
 

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What monkey sees, monkey does and it's the simple solution all the world gives because we are not original because we do not want to know ourselves and we see others and we wanna be like them because it is the easy solution the world gave it to you. We wanna buy make up and jewelry and expensive cars because we think it is the solution everyone wants and is looking for and still people make those mistakes. Becuase the real us is not those things people the real us the things that make us happy our people, our friends. Be the nascar driver you want, the doctor you want to be, and be the Person God wants you to be above all !

The real wisdom is the real reason the word is meant for is to do the right thing, no no no not the right thing for corporeal body, the physical, not for science with numbers, not the right thing the world says, niether the right for money, this will shock you niether for your friends, and your family ! The right thing God's way that pinnacle of the human mind to achieve ! The ultimate thing Man can use thier mind, their brain, and their body to do the right thing God's way ! Is to submit to God's will and do what he wants ! It is hard and how ? By denying yourself and self sacrifice is how !


This is hard but it is the most important thing that bible says about God's wisdome giving to us, humans who are inferior and not worthy of God's love and wisdom. Errors happen and man never know it's purpose and loses it self in the world and dies not knowing what wisdom is and how to uses for God and he wants it use for the mission he wants, he sent you. This is important and if you have read to here you will strive more and do more and find what you were looking for. ;D.
 

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It is not easy but who has wisdom and knows this is King Solomon the bible has said it. He did ask God for wisdom and God wanted him to have to see a human who did have an IQ beyond 200 humans do not know how smart he is but him and Jesus were among the smartest humans ever he could reach 500 IQ or more also said in the internet by various people Enoch was one of the smartest for God talked to him and showed him things that no human could know God enlighten those who talk to him and God wanted to keep him because he was special ;D. Look for the wisdom of the bible and you will do what you want in your life find the secret of your life. Like the bible says.

Search the kingdom first and not the world first.


Matthew 6:33 King James Version (KJV) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Look for his things first brethren look for his love and hsi faith he gives in the bible and pray for wisdom. Make wisdom your base not intilligence, knowledge, or instinct. They were not meant for evil they were meant for good and to serve wisdom.

Here an example of what King Solomon says so you can search and obtain.

King Solomon believed that wisdom is the ability to distinguish right from wrong, and that it's important to live wisely and successfully.



What did King Solomon say about wisdom?
  • "Give your servant an understanding mind… able to discern the difference between good and evil".
  • "Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Cherish her".
  • "Do not say, 'Why were the old days better than these?' For it is not wise to ask such questions".
 

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How did God give Solomon wisdom?


  • God gave Solomon a wise and discerning mind after he prayed for it.

What does the Bible say about wisdom?
  • Wisdom will not enter a deceitful soul, nor dwell in a body enslaved to sin.
  • The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the HOLY ONE is understanding.

What can we learn from King Solomon's wisdom?
  • We can learn to live wisely and successfully by distinguishing right from wrong.
  • We can learn to avoid reliving the past.
King Solomon achieve wisdom God wants but he failed because he made errors like people who only seek knowledge like the librarian or scientist that denies God exist and believe he know everything and he is a God. No those errors exist in all of history for women and men. If you didn't waste your time studying in Cambridge or Harvard wanting to the best but didn't attend with your family and they are gone. Who will you celebrate if you The wisdoms belongs to God not to us, remember God borrows us his wisdom, his will, and his love. Deny yourself and sacrifice everything to the lord and he will fix your promblems, he will fix your errors, you will be forgiving, and he will let you find your personal mission. God will give is because he is love, because he loves you !
Is that you don't get it who also is wise like king Solomon ? Jesus !
 

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He is wise and wiser than him he is the man God wants all of women and man to be he is what we all should of been in the Eden but because of the fall we lost that chance but now God can give it if we pray ! I'm telling of higher things and some of you don't even get it. I pray you go pray and ask God to help you look for that wisdom because this is the most important that you have wisdom in your mind and body but also fill it with love ! You heard me that is what is the most important for the humand mind and body. The people of Oxford considers themselves the edge of human genius ! They cannot achieve this and fail. Scientist fails this and Librarians because wisdom doesn't belongs to them it belongs to God. I assure you have the knowledge of the world is worthless if you don't have one thing the bible says ! That is love and where the bible says Jesus loves and it is the most important thing ?

"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:36-40)



  • "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" (John 14:15)

"By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another" (John 13:35

"you cannot surpass the master but be equal as him," is found in the Bible in Luke 6:40, where Jesus essentially says that a disciple cannot be greater than their teacher, but should strive to be like them when fully trained; meaning, to reach the same level of understanding and character as the teacher.
 

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Jesus does want you to be like him and be wise like King Solomon and be better than him !

But remember if you don't have love and wisdom you cannot do it !

The three most important things to have are faith, hope and love. But the greatest of them is love.

1 Corinthians 13:13​


Love and wisdom is the most important thing and how to have both them ! Is thru prayer for God has used simple man and farmers to become kings and the smartest people in the world like prophets ! Because God wields it and he can give to you beloved. Pray, pray and pray and he will give it ! Nothing is impposible for him !

God will give it ! You can intelligence, knowledge, and instinct but worthless if you do put under God's word and do the right thing ! God's way ! Do this and God will give you the personal mission he will reveal that to you if you sacrifice to him and deny yourself. I do pray you do it because God does want you to have it. The promblem is yourself really look for God's way people he does give it and remember he does give the path for you to look for the bible and be baptized early in your life no excuse you should of looked for it and you would of found the answers. Apology to you all for being to fast and telling you in this crude way. Do wish for you to find the mission and live your life to the fullest. God bless !
 

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We all have free will - and use it every day. The problem is, that God knows everything in advance. So in the end, he already knows, how we use our free will and where we will end up.

See here: All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

Still free will - but already known since the beginning of the world. Now, if this is free will or not.... no conclusive answer:

Free will or not?

 

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He died as foreseen, he fulfill the prophecy. Sometimes people their is nothing wrong that God knows in advance everything he is taking care of us. The promblem is that you don't have control and people you don't have don't like the idea he is alwasy right. Everyone if God's knows everything it is for a good reason we don't see yet and all is part of the plan of God. Don't try to control eveything we cannot put things in God's hands and he will do the rest.
 
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You mother and father are the one to help ya find the personal mission the why your here also. We are all put here part of God's plan we see some people and their life. Their mothers know thier fmaily curses or they have to do their part of their life and conquer their fears and make for you. Will put exampls of those people life that will help find their purpose.

Some notable examples of famous parents who actively supported their children in pursuing their passions and fulfilling their purpose include: Steve Irwin (father of Bindi Irwin), who instilled a love for wildlife conservation in his daughter, allowing her to continue his legacy; Tug McGraw (father of Tim McGraw), who encouraged his son's musical aspirations; Antonio Fargas (father of Justin Fargas), whose son followed in his athletic footsteps to become an NFL player; and Bart Giamatti (father of Paul Giamatti), who supported his son's acting career; all showcasing how parental guidance and encouragement can significantly influence a child's path to success.



Key points about these examples:
  • Bindi Irwin:
    Following her father's death, Bindi took on a prominent role in the Wildlife Warriors organization, actively campaigning for animal conservation, mirroring her father's dedication to wildlife protection.
  • Tim McGraw:
    While not directly involved in the music industry, Tug McGraw's supportive presence likely played a role in Tim's successful country music career.

  • Justin Fargas:
    Following in his father's athletic footsteps, Justin Fargas became a professional football player in the NFL.


  • Paul Giamatti:
    Although not directly related to acting, Bart Giamatti's prominent position in the world of sports likely provided Paul with a strong network and support system for his acting career.





  • Sometimes like the Dad break the rules and breakthru to find your purpose and do God's will and you will see your parent know that and will tell ya. Sometimes do what John Locke did is neccesary.
 

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Here we are talking about freewill and see their is choice and it is given to us in (Deuteronomy 30:19). "I [God] have set before you life and death, blessing and curse: therefore choose life"

And we talk about those choices which are many thruout the bible and people didn't realize the bible did stated God has plans and it is used plans of God. Jeremiah 29:11 11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

Like Romans 8:28 everything is for a purpose.

We see that God's method for us to finds those purpose is Love and Wisdom very important you cna have hope and faith but without love Wisdom won't work either.

1 Corinthians 13:2 says, "If I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing".

and What you say is your own words and we are not same on how we talk about freewill you have what you said on this forum and it is respected and I said what I said about freewill and we are not the same . I'm talking about finding it the personal mission and showing biblically. Here we talk about that but you wanna talk about other things and predestiantion and destiny is different and we talk about something else. Wanna talk about if you had a personal mission would you do it ? Wanna go find it or simply your not interested ?

This is important it is something I discuss with others about John Cleese great actor indeed he talks about lemurs and in a part of the documentary he tells how lemurs are like humans they are different but have a purpose.


Here people find Lemurs are special and like people we are all special. People freewill subject is very extended and vast theology that explains why your here ? It explains the choices God gave and he does and despite oppositon of the world he does give you two but from them all your life you can choose others things like how you want to live your life, choosing still do good or bad decisions ( lie, steal food, defend your house and many options israelites have ) still obeying his law and under the 10 commandments and the 613 mitzvah laws. You still have options. And in freewill their is fate, destiny, and predestiantion and we found more that affect us.


Before we started this thread we have found what was the original purpose God wanted us to do in the Eden. To do the same as heaven is the reason we know little but Eden is like heaven and a garden like Eden are in heaven. I have shown verses.
Matthew 6:9-13 (ESV):“ 9 Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. 10 Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

That show Jesus wants us to do what they do in heaven. And if you have read all the verses I put before they sing and worship in heaven. Simple to many that was a realization people take for granted. And didn't realize that was it and what they do. And before the fall what God epxected us to do. Simple.