So what does the divinity of Jesus really mean, anyway?

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Bob

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I do not believe Arian has anything to do with my comments, and I wager you don't know what Arain believed in anyway. And by labeling does nothing for your understanding of scripture either.

Bob, you are now moving on to another subject w/o actually providing a comment on Colossians. I guess you just ignored and disagreed my feedback out-of-hand. That is a shame. I was hoping for something more in this conversation.

Now you last comment you really need to pay attention to the context, knowing that Jesus was in a transitional state of an immortal human body, awaiting to ascend to his Father in Heaven. Of course Christ could appear and become invisible at will under his own steam. His Father, who is God, gave him this eternal life, not himself! This is just one reason why Jesus the man is not God of course.

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Thank you for your reply.

You appear to be angry or frustrated with my replies, but I am not sure why. I have been trying to make sense of your posts, but not succeeding.

Having read and re-read your posts, it must be that my limited brain and knowledge of scripture are the source of the inadequacy.

Peace.
 

brightfame52

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Doesn't mean logic does not apply.



This is not proof Jesus is God. Jesus is not even referred to in the verse. Are you even aware there are non-trinitarian ways to interpret how something can be WITH someone and be that someone? The bill was with my friend bill.
I told you, you flat out denied scripture support, all that wolfing, you cant believe scripture testimony.
 

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I told you, you flat out denied scripture support,
Projecting. Jesus said the Father is the only true God. What does this say about the Trinity god?

There is no explicit teaching in Scripture for the Trinity. Reading your doctrine into unitarian text is not ‘support.’
 

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Projecting. Jesus said the Father is the only true God. What does this say about the Trinity god?

There is no explicit teaching in Scripture for the Trinity. Reading your doctrine into unitarian text is not ‘support.’
See Jn 1:1,14
 

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God the Father,God the Son,God the Holy Spirit are ONE!!!
Technically and correctly you have to define what 'ONE' means, for this configuration of three gods = > the ONE Triune God...as it does not mean the ONE true God of the Bible.... Deuteronomy 4:35, 6:4; 2 Samuel 7:22; 1 King 8:60; Nehemiah 9:6; Psalms 18:31; 86:10; Isaiah 37: 16, 20; 44:6,8; 45:21; 46:9; Hosea 13:4; Joel 2:27; Zech 14:9; Mark 12: 29-34; John 17:3; Romans 3:30; ! Corinthians 8:4-6; Galatians 3:20; Eph 4:6; 1 Timothy 1:17, 2:5; James 2:19, and numerous other verses where Jesus indicated he had a God, his Father.
 

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I dont see how, its scripture
It's scripture alright and you do not seem to explain or understand it beyond quoting Book, Chapter and verse.

For example in John 1:14a...what does 'became flesh' mean. I do not expect you to know it, and most don't either so you are great company.

Well give it your best shot then...
 
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I really do not want to go through all your comments....oh well..just those that I feel a need to improve upon...

John 1:4 refers to the word of God not Jesus....it had life in itself...it its message and expression of God was eternal life and we know it was possessed by his human Son.

The life of immortality the Father God gave his Son, indeed.

The power to lay his life down means that it was up to Jesus' human power and decision, along with his father's power as assist that possessed him, to stay the course, to the Cross. It is implying that Jesus at any time, could have decided even before his baptism to say no to all of it...he chose to die however.

And because Jesus had the power to go to the Cross, he automatically, had the power to raise it up, THROUGH his Father of course, as his Father commanded, and agreed...you die and I will raise you up to immortality , to new life as the first born of the new creation....

I've noticed you use the word inheritance of the Son from the Father. This does not work. God, who is the Son's Father does not give his divinity and his personality away to his Son as an inheritance somehow. The Father can only be himself, the one and only God. As if God would die and his Son would take over some how.....remember, the Son is still human not God. And God is not in the business of producing offspring of his complete self. That is found in the Greek mythology Section of the library.
I notice that you, along with your fellow Unitarians, deny the literal Sonship of Jesus. You have to of course in order to sustain your arguments. The lawyers had it right when they heard Jesus claiming to be the Son of God...they recognised He was claiming equality with God, making Himself God. Which of course is echoed in Philippians 2.
That is found in the Greek mythology Section of the library.
Remember, Lucifer led the original rebellion in heaven. He knew the truth. Ever since then, as Satan, he has confused truth with innumerable myths, fantasies, lies, and fairy tales. But there is a common thread running through each one. There is a evidence of previous truth as being the foundation of all the lies. Satan does not have an original idea in his whole mind. He's an expert in counterfeit and subterfuge, but nothing original. All the myths are merely offshoots from the original. So yes. In myths and fairy tales and legends are to found a variety of gods, some with children, some consisting of 3 equal but opposing powers, and all of them having characters that reflect their maker's own character. All of them exercise violence, murder, lies, theft, insurrection, slander, adultery, and war and conflict. So you reference to Greek mythology is a flat none issue, in fact, it would be a surprise otherwise.
John 1:4 refers to the word of God not Jesus.
So the word of God is God?
I've noticed you use the word inheritance of the Son from the Father. This does not work.
Don't we all, with the exception of unrepentant sinners, inherit eternal life from God? Who died?
 
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