One thing I strongly oppose Trump on

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Ronald Nolette

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I have appreciated so much of what president Trump is doing. But one thing I most vehemently oppose is that Trump is negotiating an end to the war with Putin and not including Zelensky yet.

He is caving in to many of Putins demands as to be very sorrowful.

allowing Putin to keep many of the lands he stole in the 2 invasions of Ukraine.
Forcing Zelensky out of office saying he is a dictator( Pot meet kettle)
no taqlks of reparations to Ukraine for the massive damage done.
no war crime hearings for the intentional butchering of people by bombing civilian targets.
no talk of Russia paying anything for the crimes committed in their illegal invasion.
Talk of Trump demanding 50% of Ukraine's rare earth minerals to repay the AID we gave to help- them defeat the Russia Trump now seems to be sucking up to.
I have even been hearing on conservative TV and radio talk now of bad mouthing Zelensky and almost making him the villain of this war.

I voted for Trump and believe He can do good for America, but if he turns his back on Ukraine tro cow tow to russia, America has betrayed godly values in teh White House and we aree in serious trouble.
 

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Thank you for your thought.

At the moment, we do not know what the final settlement will be. President Trump wants to be strategic, and deliver the best outcome for America. Yes, we can sympathize with Ukraine losing territory, but unless you believe a better outcome is possible, given the relative strengths of Russia and Ukraine, it is not clear how it can turn out any differently.

Wait and see. Perhaps save your final critique for when it all ends.

For my part, I would prefer our President be more statesman like in his messages, and let go of the NY/NJ trash talk!

Peace.
 
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But one thing I most vehemently oppose is that Trump is negotiating an end to the war with Putin and not including Zelensky yet.

Yet? You are focused on PROCESS rather than RESULTS. He who pays the fiddler names the tune.

turns his back on Ukraine tro cow tow to russia
It’s the smart play. How much money are we supposed to send to Ukraine before we don’t get shamed for ‘turning our back’ on Ukraine?

It’s time Christian America and Christian Russia end their animosity. Morality, Russia has the winning argument. Foolish to ever support Ukraine.
 
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If Biden and the democrats had not have sent billions of dollars and weapons, where would Ukraine be now? Nobody tried to mediate a peace agreement. All along the north and east borders of Ukraine are in favor of Russia control. If a negotiation had happened, much of the infrastructure would not have been destroyed.
 

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It’s time Christian America and Christian Russia end their animosity. Morality, Russia has the winning argument. Foolish to ever support Ukraine.
Ok, "Christian America". "Christian Russia"......oh for crying out loud "Trump and Putin".....you must be joking!!

And foolish to even support Ukraine??

What the heck are you talking about?
What a messed up post!
 

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If Biden and the democrats had not have sent billions of dollars and weapons, where would Ukraine be now? Nobody tried to mediate a peace agreement. All along the north and east borders of Ukraine are in favor of Russia control. If a negotiation had happened, much of the infrastructure would not have been destroyed.
All this started when the Iron Curtain came down. The Russians took it down and the condition was that NATO should not expand towards Russia. There was an agreement, but the west blew it away, they started expanding towards Russia. They were warned not to break the agreement, they did go ahead, broke it, and that's why we are all in trouble now. Thanks to the west and Nato. I am not saying Putin is a nice guy, far from it. But agreements should not be broken and we were warned. But of course nobody cares. So, here we are, with a lousy president and a Russian dictator laying down the rules.
 

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All this started when the Iron Curtain came down. The Russians took it down and the condition was that NATO should not expand towards Russia. There was an agreement, but the west blew it away, they started expanding towards Russia. They were warned not to break the agreement, they did go ahead, broke it, and that's why we are all in trouble now. Thanks to the west and Nato. I am not saying Putin is a nice guy, far from it. But agreements should not be broken and we were warned. But of course nobody cares. So, here we are, with a lousy president and a Russian dictator laying down the rules.
I already knew that. Zelensky broke that agreement, but Biden and company were hell bent on supporting Ukraine instead of a peace agreement. Even Zelensky should have known better and backed down from trying to join Nato.
 

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Ok, "Christian America". "Christian Russia"......oh for crying out loud "Trump and Putin".....you must be joking!!
Nope. Time for the American-Russia alliance to defeat the globalist elite.

And foolish to even support Ukraine??
Yup. https://www.npr.org/2014/02/23/2815...lution-the-u-s-ambassador-to-ukraine-explains

Most Americans are unaware of how we replaced the Russia leaning leadership to the anti-Russia regime we replaced it with.

What the heck are you talking about?
2 million people dead. Ending it justifies another Peace Prize Trump has earned in a just world. Ever read the Bible? Read anything about peacemakers?
 

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I am not saying Putin is a nice guy, far from it. But agreements should not be broken and we were warned.
I agreed with you post yo until this point.
So, here we are, with a lousy president and a Russian dictator laying down the rules.
Huh? We have best POTUS since Founding Father’s. NATO forced Russia’s hand. Don’t pretend Putin’s laying down the rules when he’s reacted to NATO’s aggression - breaking agreements, as you said.
 

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The west, with Nato has broken their agreements.
That's the bottom line.

We are stuck with a convicted criminal in the White House.
And a killer in Moscow.
Trump declared Ukraine never should have started this war.....what a moron!!!


Forget your love affair with Trump.
It will not work.
Mark my words.
 
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Triumph1300

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Trump said a lot of things he would change within the first week in office.
He declared that war would end in the first week. All BS.

All he created is trouble and bad feelings with friendly nations.

Dumb talk about taking Greenland, Canada and Panama.

He is a liar and does not know how to talk truth.
 
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Trump said a lot of things he would change within the first week in office.
And Trump was right! Much changed the first day!
He declared that war would end in the first week. All BS.
Did he? He began laying the groundwork in the first week, including low level discussions with Putin.