Two different mindsets about peace.... Palestinians and Israelis interviewed

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Debp

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Of course, both sides need to know Jesus who taught us to love our neighbor as ourselves. That's the only answer.

Listening to these interviews, you can understand the problem. The Israelis want peace, willing to compromise. The Palestinians...no desire for peace or compromise with Israel, and they think they are entitled to all of the land.


 

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The Palestinians are taught the same things in school, so they all say the same things.
I saw some videos awhile back how the Palestinian children are indoctrinated to hate and kill Jews. Also, they give very young boys military training.
 

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Islam views the world through Islamic eyes and sees dars Al Islam, the house of peace or submission and wars Al harb, the house of war. That is every country that is not Islamic.
 
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The Palestinians...no desire for peace or compromise with Israel, and they think they are entitled to all of the land.
Making the ongoing war against Hamas justified. Until Palestinians desire peace and are willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist, there is no foundation for peace. Sad but true.
 

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Asking younger Palestinians about the conflict...best solution. Again, they are adamant that they don't want to coexist with Israel.

 

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Asking younger Palestinians about the conflict...best solution. Again, they are adamant that they don't want to coexist with Israel.
What can be said about a people who have preferred for generations death to peace? At some point, you have to grant them their request - no matter how irrational and evil it is. This is why it is so important to teach the young in the ways of the LORD.
 
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What can be said about a people who have preferred for generations death to peace? At some point, you have to grant them their request - no matter how irrational and evil it is. This is why it is so important to teach the young in the ways of the LORD.

Yes, it's terrible about their mindset....they do need to know the Lord, to be changed. And learn to love your neighbor as yourself as Jesus taught us.

I watched the movie Hotel Mumbai last night on Tubi. True story about the horrible terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India. Dozens of orchestrated attacks across the city for four days. They were going through the big hotel and shooting people floor by floor, explosions and fire. Brainwashed young men they were.

 
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What can be said about people who want to build a vacation resort for the rich on top of land where so many people have suffered and died.Its a great Idea for rich people.Certainly won't see me there if it happens I will avoid it at all cost.Isn't that whats happening all the poor are being pushed aside so the rich can prosper in their decadence.The enemy has been chosen always wondered who it would be now its obvious.

Palestine is the thorn in Israels side a punishment from God for not cleansing the land of its people as God had asked.Its in the bible - its Gods land God will decide who inhabits it and what happens there not people.Of course Satan is deeply entrenched there to he wants control of it to and the people.Its what he will try to do the bible clearly tells us this.You can't control what is about to happen there my advice don't be a part of it and turn to Christ.
 
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What can be said about people who want to build a vacation resort for the rich on top of land where so many people have suffered and died.
You can say these people are doing God’s work, healing the land and taking what was meant for evil to be used for good.
 
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Palestine is the thorn in Israels side a punishment from God for not cleansing the land of its people as God had asked.
Rather fatalistic. Palestine is the region not a nation. A 2nd State was already created. See the flag of Jordan and compare it to the Palestinians.

The thorn is Islamic Jihadi’s who hold the idea that land once controlled by Islamists can never be relinquished. They lost WW1, which is only a cease fire. Since they do t accept the cease fire terms, WW1 must resume. Call it WW3 if you want.
 

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God is going to allow a resort for the rich in their decadence to be built on his holy land.Palestine is on the holy ground let see it happen I dare them.This is God's holy land he will decide.
 
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God is going to allow a resort for the rich in their decadence to be built on his holy land.Palestine is on the holy ground let see it happen I dare them.This is God's holy land he will decide.
Your class envy is noted but not persuasive. Lots of people take vacations, not just the rich. The Mediterranean has been a favorite destination for people for millennia.
 

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Oh, good grief.

These people had their land taken away from them by UN fiat in 1948. They are trapped in what's basically a ghetto (now a ghetto in rubble) with few resources and no place to go. They won't compromise because they can't. Desperation breeds fanaticism. When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose.

And now Jesus's people are supporting ethnic cleansing.

Lovely. Just lovely.
 
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Oh, good grief.

These people had their land taken away from them by UN fiat in 1948. They are trapped in what's basically a ghetto (now a ghetto in rubble) with few resources and no place to go. They won't compromise because they can't. Desperation breeds fanaticism. When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose.

And now Jesus's people are supporting ethnic cleansing.

Lovely. Just lovely.
they aren't trapped. They could surrender and they could assimilate. You should look at their history of killing their own and why Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, and others do not want Palestinians in there country.
 
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Isn't that the problem no one respects the land or its history or God today money money money is the song of today.Get out of the way of the rich and letting them make money or you will pay the price.
The three temptations of Christ wealth power and security - that is whats being offered and that is what you want right?If it is bow to your God Satan and accept his gift.
 
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People seem to forget the uncountable amount of people who have died trying to possess and control Gods holy land they have been coming for centuries and dying like flies in their attempts.Kings have died with their armies religions have met and battled to the death and none were successful and driven out .I would be very careful on how to deal with the holy land or the same thing will happen you will be cursed.Its not up to man every inch belongs to God and he has made that clear.

I bet the more people have died trying to possess and control that land then any other piece of land on the earth.
 
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Of course, both sides need to know Jesus who taught us to love our neighbor as ourselves. That's the only answer.

Listening to these interviews, you can understand the problem. The Israelis want peace, willing to compromise. The Palestinians...no desire for peace or compromise with Israel, and they think they are entitled to all of the land.


Two different mindsets about peace...​

The title of your thread stopped me from scrolling through all the new post. It stands out because to me it could apply to way more than what is going on over there. Even here —in the mind—-there are two battling “warring” mindsets about peace. Consider the double minded man who is unstable in all his ways…he also has two mindsets about peace. For example where the word says to warn those who are rich in this world and not rich (making peace) toward God. I’ve experienced two different mindsets surrounding me as counsel given from others and also my own dueling two different mindsets within my own thoughts. Differing mindsets coming in the form of counsel, an example would be when I first found out I had MS and went to church to seek answers as to why. And truthfully seeking for God “to fix me”. The counsel was my faith was lacking and the reason I was sick with a disease like MS, was because my faith lacked where if I had real faith I would not have MS. So two different mindsets: one saying there is no peace because obviously, I’m still sick. Or judging peace given with how blessed one is not only with “given increase” of great health, but also by how much money and things God has given increase to in one’s life. At the same time there’s the mindset of 2 Corinthians By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; [9] As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; [10] As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
^yes, I see good news in the above, but I also see what is visible doesn’t define what is unseen(not yet seen).

Also what you pointed out concerning Palestinians and Israelis and “the Land”…
Also there are two different mindsets on “the Promised Land” and end times. Different mindsets even on where the promised land is located. Jesus Christ spoke on those whose mindset is to keep you out of the Promised Land. But then Paul whose mindset was polar opposite from Saul’s mindset: did not desire to keep others out but wanted to ”intreat” even saying to those who called him a reprobate… “I will be weak, that you be made strong. This We hope for, even you being made complete in Him.”

Sorry for the long post. You have helped me to reflect and have hope and I’ll think of the title of your post for most of the day. Today, I’m switching from the antidepressant I was on to another one(this will be the third switch now), which scares me. Since yet again the new one comes with a whole new set of side effects. Your title will give me strength because I do think there is a lot in whether the mindset is to exclude others, or the mindset to include others. I find Hope in the nature of God to not exclude but as Paul (Christ speaking in him) said, “I will be weak so that you be made strong” …it reminds me of God whom is wonderfully gracious to share.

I didn’t mean to distract from your title. But only meant how we view what is going on over there, maybe also we need to look at our own mindset on peace?
 
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If I visited Israel I would bring a jar of the land back home so I could have the holy land in my house.