DON'T REJECT PAUL

Verily said:

Peter did not speak about the espistles of Paul?

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Do the research.
You'll find the same person did not write both 1et and 2nd Peter. This is a long held fact.
2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Which ones?

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You don't know the books contained in the Gospel

Verily said:

Pepper if you spent half your time defending Christ rather than ripping on Paul what things you could accomplish.

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Your attack is a lie .

Imagine if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Rather than talking nonsense because you don't study beyond the Bible itself.

pepper said:

Do the research.

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Oh okay

pepper said:

You don't know the books contained in the Gospel

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Yeah but arent you going to clue me in on Mark being John Mark who was a companion of Peter who according to Irenaeus Mark really just wrote down Peters words even though modern scholars are skeptical of this (who knows these days) and so I thought I would ask you to make sure all the names on the rest of the book are legit.

pepper said:

Your attack is a lie .

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How is it an attack calling out your own attacks on Paul?

You were on another thread spending your energy trying to make Paul out as false prophet and your accusations against held zero water but such things were proceeded by "do your research".

When I did they amounted to nothing.

pepper said:

Imagine if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Rather than talking nonsense because you don't study beyond the Bible itself.

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God will just have to forgive me for all such nonsense

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Verily said:

How is it an attack calling out your own attacks on Paul?

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Are you one person posting under that name? You sound like you're not aware of your own writings here .
It was a lie and attack to imply I don't spend time defending,not that He needs us to,Jesus.
That's a lie.

If you would do the research and just read Paul you'd realize Paul tells you he is not of Jesus.

Verily said:

You were on another thread spending your energy trying to make Paul out as false prophet and your accusations against held zero water

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No,that's false. Paul's own words prove he knew he was false
Read! Don't browse snippets of scripture thinking you can keep up with those of us who do the work . Then you get snarky when you find out how little you know,so you attack me?

Verily said:

but such things were proceeded by "do your research".

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Yes. Something you are clearly opposed to You have no idea how many disciplines,areas of study, there are beneath the umbrella of the Christian faith.

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When I did they amounted to nothing.

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That's your fault. Not the resources there to be researched.

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God will just have to forgive me for all such nonsense.

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That's what you use as a cover for your behavior?

pepper said:

Are you one person posting under that name? You sound like you're not aware of your own writings here .
It was a lie and attack to imply I don't spend time defending,not that He needs us to,Jesus.
That's a lie.

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I am curious now, I will have a look at where you might have gave a thumbs up to someone posting the gospel of Mark Matthew and John Jude and Hebrews somewheres since the rest of the books are supposedly fakes is it?

pepper said:

If you would do the research and just read Paul you'd realize Paul tells you he is not of Jesus.

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Oh my...

pepper said:

No,that's false. Paul's own words prove he knew he was false
Read! Don't browse snippets of scripture thinking you can keep up with those of us who do the work .

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Goodness...

pepper said:

Then you get snarky when you find out how little you know,so you attack me?

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Get over it, no one has "attacked you" and you know it, we were on a thread with Doug and you were going after Paul being a false apostle. Line after line after line after line of "do your resreach" and I posted to each one of your attacks on Paul

Starting on post #12 go after him on a Peter thread

Paul Encountered Satan - Not Christ - on the Road to Damascus​

And I patiently went through that with you there

Post # 20 you go after him on THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL


And we talked back and forth there as well

pepper said:

Yes. Something you are clearly opposed to You have no idea how many disciplines,areas of study, there are beneath the umbrella of the Christian faith.

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Which I did, and I just stay in the apostles teaching

pepper said:

That's your fault. Not the resources there to be researched.

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When I said, they amounted to nothing I was speaking of any incoming counter replies that never showed up on your end regarding Paul.

pepper said:

That's what you use as a cover for your behavior?

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So when you had said to me

Imagine if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Rather than talking nonsense because you don't study beyond the Bible itself.

And I responded,

God will just have to forgive me for all such nonsense.

Your response to that is

That's what you use as a cover for your behavior?

That makes no sense whatsoever to reply that way*.

Edit: fixed last sentence*

Verily said:

I am curious now, I will have a look at where you might have gave a thumbs up to someone posting the gospel of Mark Matthew and John Jude and Hebrews somewheres since the rest of the books are supposedly fakes is it?

Oh my...

Goodness...



Get over it, no one has "attacked you" and you know it, we were on a thread with Doug and you were going after Paul being a false apostle. Line after line after line after line of "do your resreach" and I posted to each one of your attacks on Paul

Starting on post #12 go after him on a Peter thread

Paul Encountered Satan - Not Christ - on the Road to Damascus​

WAS PETER ACCURSED?

Here is the other Bible verse most often asserted to refute there being a gospel preached by Paul and another by Peter. If Peter was preaching another gospel, then he was accursed. Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have...

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And I patiently went through that with you there

Post # 20 you go after him on THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel. The mystery of the gospel was revealed by revelations of Jesus Christ only to Paul. Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my...

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And we talked back and forth there as well



Which I did, and I just stay in the apostles teaching

When I said, they amounted to nothing I was speaking of any incoming counter replies that never showed up on your end regarding Paul.



So when you had said to me

Imagine if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Rather than talking nonsense because you don't study beyond the Bible itself.

And I responded,

God will just have to forgive me for all such nonsense.

Your response to that is

That's what you use as a cover for your behavior?

That makes no sense whatsoever to reply that way*.

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I'm over it.

pepper said:

I'm over it.

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Your so weird

Doug said:

This might interest you........its a link to my post here

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PAUL UPHELD THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

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Paul was a servant of God, so he upheld all of God’s commandments, not just ten of them.

Doug said:

First of all they dont recognize Jesus sent Paul
In Galatiams Paul met with them to convey his gospel to them. They did not preach the same gospel.

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Yet the apostles did not correct Paul.
If he wasn't preaching the gospel there is no mention of it being corrected in the letter they sent to the churches.

Acts 15, The Council of Jerusalem .made it clear they did not agree with Paul's secret gospel.
It did not concur with the actual 12 annointed Apostles whom Jesus chose for His Great Commission.
Paul's letters,Epistles,occupy the majority of the New Testament meant to convey Jesus words.
A man,Saul=Paul, a Pharisee, who never met the living Jesus,never heard him speak. And is the reason the church is divided today. As the enemy intended.

Whether they know it or not there are Christians who follow Jesus words. And then there are Pauline's,who follow those of Saul=Paul. Paul,who at least 11 times referred to his teachings as HIS gospel. And even cursed any who would come and teach another Gospel. I.E. a Gospel other than Paul's. A secret one.
Where did any Apostle of Jesus claim theirs was a secret? Not one.

How would Saul think there to be a different one? If he and the Anointed Apostles were actually teaching the same one?

Doug said:

They gave Paul the right hand of fellowship in Galatians 2......this was referencing Acts 15

[Gal 2:9 KJV] 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

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Also at the end of Acts 15 after James gave his sentence it says,

Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

Acts 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul also contradicted the edict of the Council of Jerusalem regarding dietary issues.

Ignoring the contradictions between Saul and Jesus' teaching? OK

Jesus told His Apostle John about Saul=Paul as well in Revelation 2:2
Jesus said, "And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars."

Which is a trait,lying,Saul himself admitted to when spreading " his" gospel. 2Corinthians 12:16,one example.


Jesus commanded His Apostles preach the Gospel of the Kingdom.
Matthew 24:14)
Which Paulines typically don't know.

"Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. These twelve Jesus sent forth..." (Matthew 10:2-5)

pepper said:

Paul also contradicted the edict of the Council of Jerusalem regarding dietary issues.

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Which one of those those things this one?

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

1 Cr 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:

Or blood or things strangled?

pepper said:

Ignoring the contradictions between Saul and Jesus' teaching? OK

Jesus told His Apostle John about Saul=Paul as well in Revelation 2:2
Jesus said, "And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars."

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Where did Jesus say Paul was one of those apostles he found a liar while the apostles sent Paul out with Barnabas with their letters not to mention the apostle Peter calls Paul a beloved brother

pepper said:

Which is a trait,lying,Saul himself admitted to when spreading " his" gospel. 2Corinthians 12:16,one example.


Jesus commanded His Apostles preach the Gospel of the Kingdom.
Matthew 24:14)
Which Paulines typically don't know.

"Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. These twelve Jesus sent forth..." (Matthew 10:2-5)

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Why does your writing become elementary school like everytime you take up a case against Paul as if someone else is writing these things out for you? Your sentences arent even readable.

Among the originals when it come to Judas who hung himself was to be replaced

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Acts 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

Acts 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.

Acts 12:2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

Soon after the death of John it says

Acts 13:3 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Acts 13:3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.

This is the first time Barnabas and Paul are referred to as apostles here

Acts 14:14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

After this come the cousel and sentence of James and the whole church sending Paul and Barnabas along with these below

Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

Verily said:

Which one of those those things this one?

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

1 Cr 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:

Or blood or things strangled?

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1 Corinthians 8

Verily said:

Where did Jesus say Paul was one of those apostles he found a liar

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Revelation 2

Verily said:

while the apostles sent Paul out with Barnabas with their letters not to mention the apostle Peter calls Paul a beloved brother.

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But not an Apostle.

Re: below. I've already said in a different post that it is known that Peter could not have been the author of 2Peter.

Verily said:

2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction

Why does your writing become elementary school like everytime you take up a case against Paul as if someone else is writing these things out for you? Your sentences arent even readable.

Among the originals when it come to Judas who hung himself was to be replaced

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Acts 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

Acts 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.

Acts 12:2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

Soon after the death of John it says

Acts 13:3 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Acts 13:3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.

This is the first time Barnabas and Paul are referred to as apostles here

Acts 14:14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

After this come the cousel and sentence of James and the whole church sending Paul and Barnabas along with these below

Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

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pepper said:

1 Corinthians 8

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Which verse, why dont you just post it instead of telling me to fetch it, I hate fetching someones stuff.

pepper said:

Revelation 2

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He said Paul's name there? Where? Which verse is this? Can you post the scripture so we can see?

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But not an Apostle.

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Acts calls him an apostle, see?

Acts 14:14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

You want to delete Acts and Luke too correct?

pepper said:

Re: below. I've already said in a different post that it is known that Peter could not have been the author of 2Peter.

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Isnt that ironic that 2 Peter is the problem because that Peter names Paul a beloved brother and speaks to his epistles, but 1 Peter does not.

You will definately need to remove 2 Peter and get rid of both Acts attributed to Luke and get rid of the book of Luke and get rid of most of the books in the NT.