God's Hatred

Nancy said:

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We are not God, He has full control and vengeance is Gods alone as He is the perfect judge we are NOT...

Just my 2 cents. :)

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Even so, God has full control and full knowledge of what each of us is and what is or is not within each of us. He alone always knows when a person is in the place to receive a final negative judgement. Consider the example of Daniel 3 where while 3 Hebrews were untouched by the fire, the "most mighty men" of the army of Nebuchadnezzar were slain as they threw the 3 into that same fire. Did not God know the hearts of both the Hebrews and the soldiers?

Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

That verse needs to be understood from the perspective of “ye are of your FATHER the devil”

Nancy said:

The scripture verse "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven'" is from Matthew 5:43-45. This verse is part of Jesus' teachings on love and humility in the Sermon on the Mount. In this passage, Jesus expands the idea of love to include enemies, and tells believers not to seek revenge in the face of insults.

We are not God, He has full control and vengeance is Gods alone as He is the perfect judge we are NOT.
Love your neighbor, not the things OF the world. Jesus raised the bar higher as we have the Holy Spirit with us if we love the Lord.
Just my 2 cents. :)

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God hates teh lost and knows who will be lost.

We are called to love all, for the simple fact we do not know who will or will not be saved.

Luke 14;26 ? Hate= love lesser than you do Christ Jesus ! For we are to pay no attention to their request, if these are detrimental to our Spiritual welfare.

Christ Jesus must be first and foremost in your life in Christ Jesus, for their of is the Key of Life ! such is the Wellspring that brings Life in abundance.
Do not take part in them who do not abide in Christ Jesus, for they are not worthy of God at all ! for they are a Curse and they will only lead one to be a Curse. so do not be yoked with them, for they are Lost fools that are under deceptions and delusions, for the Light is not in them, so they make up nonsense that is deceptions, so as to creat you too be under delusions.

For they are they Hate in a evil way ! That Jesus said ! They hated him first ! so do not be suprised that they will Hate you ! for they have other gods in fact, that they idolise in fact ! For they make up Laws and such, so as to feed their gods, that they idolise in fact !
They look up to such gods that they made, so as to dominate over all ?
This is why they created Hate speech Crimes that we hear nowadays peddled in fact ! Very serious they make out ! it's a huge deal ! but it's only a shallow front in fact ! as it is nothing in depth ? it's just the gloss that is admired. nothing in depth because such has no depth truly ! but it is worshiped and demanded of all, so as to push this shinny Front.

God gave us all the ability to hate and that is a good thing in fact, for if we could not hate we would or could never evolved in fact !
Hate is a powerful force within, it makes you stand up to attention, to take note !
One who rapes or bashes or steals or is creepy, underhanded, filth monger etc should be hatred for such a one ! a Government that is underhanded like a Serpent ? should be pointed out, that you have a hatred for such a cunning people !

But to hate a criminal Government will become hate speech in fact and banned ! It was so in Nazi Germany in fact and also of Every Communist Nation in fact. for your opinions mean nothing to Such Socialist in fact.
The thing is that Communist and Nazi Partys have a Hate you all in fact ! but they will never lift you up wards, for that is not their game. for they do not think that you are worthy it in fact ! It's all about Power over you all in fact !

Christ Jesus did not come so as to dominate over anyone ! It's free will that you abide in him, for his pure Love that he proves is for us !
The Bible and Jesus does not say you shall not hate, no Commandments are set regardig that ! nor is it for a Racist ?
But the gods of the Socialist have such Commanments in fact !
Number 1 tho shal not be a Racist ?
It's a crime to even know that one is another Race, that's racism ! if you have an opinion that's a crime !
As is Gender becoming a Crime and Hate is not having respect for filth or a Lie in fact !
Number 2 tho shall not Hate !
Number 3 tho shall not be of a Genda Male or Female ?
You have no right to such under the Socialist gods !

They just made them up ! works of Man ! that's all that they are, for they are of this world ! Lost and stupid foolish idiots in fact for they are not in any regards as a Key to freedom ! for they only trap one in delusions for such is a deception. smoke and mirrors. a band-aid to cover up an issue in fact, so we do not see the real issue ! and such will only fester ! because they can not handle the Truth because the Truth does not abide in them !

Christian Soldier said:

I should have mentioned that the bible does use the word "hate" in different context. So it has man different applications.

Matt 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

As we see in the above verse, Jesus didn't use the word hate in the same context as He did in Luke 14:26

The world (unbelievers) hates us because we don't agree with anything they believe or do, just as they have everything we believe and do. There are only two types of people in the world, Gods Children and the Devils Children and these are opposed to each other, in every way we can't have any fellowship with them.

Just to clarify fellowship doesn't mean we don't preach the gospel to them or speak with them, it just means we don't agree with them. They have it in their heart to murder us, and they would if they could get away with it. As you say the governments of the world hate us as well, because we don't agree with them.

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Because we do not follow along with them ! is why they are that way against us.

Sadly English is blunt on words like Love as it is on Hate ? so it is too wide, it does not pin point enough for more clarity. So such becomes to shallow to give more depth on a subject at hand. that one may miss the true point !

I have one family that i meet once a year say and they always say, Love you ! to me when i leave or after talking on the phone. i never say such back ! because i do not use that word just off the cuff to anyone ! for it does injury to the word ?
Just like i despise the word Awesome being use just off the cuff, for such does injury to the word, that is truly set for God alone ! for we do have an Awesome God in fact ! Period ! As to me it's insulting to hear some goof ball say awesome wheels man ! and crap like that just bluerted out is showing a lack of class.

To the love you thing stance i just say, thank you, i enjoyed your company you all.

Christian Soldier said:

Luke 14:26-30 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

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What the Master is saying here is our love for him should seem as hatred of those of our family. Basically he is saying he should be everything to us by comparison.

The Lord isn't condoning hatred!

F2F

Christian Soldier said:

It's very refreshing to have fellowship with you when agree on the meaning of scripture. Your explanation of those verses is spot ion an I do appreciate it very much.

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All good!

Jesus never carried favor with the crowds as a popular leader. True qualities of discipleship are never seen in crowds! This is another lesson mainstream Christianity will learn when he comes.

Now large crowds were accompanying Jesus, and turning to them he said, Lk 14:25.

See the lesson?

Christian Soldier said:

We always hear about Gods love of sinners.

John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

But nobody likes to hear about Gods hatred of the world.

John 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Some Christians believe that God wants us to love our enemy, but we see that Gods forbids us to love our enemy the world.

God even tells us that we cannot be His Disciples if we don't hate our mother and father, let alone our enemies.

Luke 14:26-30 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

The bible describes Gods hatred in many places, below are just some.

1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
8. God hates the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)

God hates everyone outside of Christ, so when we hear people misquoting John 3"16 to make it say "God so loved the whole world and every single person in it", know that there is no truth in them and they have come under strong delusion.

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Good job. I wish I could give you hug and hand shake.

Peace.

Christian Soldier said:

We always hear about Gods love of sinners.

John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

But nobody likes to hear about Gods hatred of the world.

John 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Some Christians believe that God wants us to love our enemy, but we see that Gods forbids us to love our enemy the world.

God even tells us that we cannot be His Disciples if we don't hate our mother and father, let alone our enemies.

Luke 14:26-30 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

The bible describes Gods hatred in many places, below are just some.

1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
8. God hates the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)

God hates everyone outside of Christ, so when we hear people misquoting John 3"16 to make it say "God so loved the whole world and every single person in it", know that there is no truth in them and they have come under strong delusion.

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Yes God hates. Christians don't!

Matthew 5:44
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,

Christian Soldier said:

Matthew 5:44 doesn't say anything about Christians not being allowed to hate.

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So you HATE? Have you read what Jesus said?

Matthew 5:44
44 But I say to you, love your enemies,

Christian Soldier said:

It does say "those who hate you", in any case this verse doesn't cancel out Luke 14:26 where Jesus said we shouldn't come to Him, unless we hate our family.

We shouldn't pluck verses of scripture, out of their intended context and use them to discredit other scriptures. We know that God does everything by two's, so there's always a opposite or negative to what He said.

To say "God hates, Christians don't" is too simplistic and it doesn't take into consideration that there is a righteous hatred and unrighteous hatred, just as there is a righteous love and unrighteous love. Gods Words, says "love not the world", if we took that on it's own then we wouldn't love our enemies. God said, you can't serve two masters. You will love one and hate the other, so God acknowledges that our hatred of certain people is justified.

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No Scripture? Of course you don't! Only Satan's children hate others!

Christian Soldier said:

As an elect Saint of God, I am being sanctified and transformed to be more and more like Christ everyday. And I know that Jesus hates the vast majority of mankind so much that He castes them into the lake of fire to be tormented for all eternity. You can't tell me that He does that to them because He loves them, it's absolutely ludicrous to suggest something so outrageously foolish.

as one who is being transformed into the image of Christ, I'm starting to hate the things I used to love and love the things I used to hate, that's obviously includes people.

There are different kinds of love, I killed my cat because I loved it. It was attacked by a dog and it sustained some bad wounds and I decided to kill it so it wouldn't suffer any longer. But it's a different story in warfare, we kill our enemy because we hate what he is doing, and we stop him from sinning any further by killing him and that's an act of love, because the more he sins the harsher his punishment will be.

You would say, a Doctor who informs his patient that he has terminal cancer, an act of hate but it's actually an act of love to inform him. Likewise, my Churches outreach ministry goes out to proclaim the gospel to prostitutes and drug addicts. You would consider our warning to them as an act of hate but the opposite is true.

Hate is not a one size fits all, God hates wicked people. The only kind of love I show the wicked, is hate speech to them.

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This is not a request!

Matthew 5:44
44 But I say to you, love your enemies,