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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for the clarification. You mentioned the three wisemen in your other post and we certainly know that they had some kind of method they used to determine when Jesus was born, undoubtedly they used information that came from Daniel, and most likely the seventy weeks but we don’t know for...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for your post, I can definitely appreciate charts. I have personal experience trading stocks using technical analysis. On your chart it appears you have all known prophecies being fulfilled between mid April and mid September. Is that correct? If so that is a very interesting and...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for your reply. When I look at something that is prophesied to happen and I follow the instructions of Matthew 11:4 to hear and see, to me that would imply that from the time that prophecy was made all the events that were seen and heard need to be considered as possibilities for the...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    It seems to me that many of the differences between the various eschatological views are based on determining what has been fulfilled and what hasn’t been fulfilled. Obviously if the Bible says something is fulfilled we can know for certain that it’s fulfilled, like Jesus being the promised...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I agree with your assessment of John 14:2-3, those verses cross reference with the verses about New Jerusalem and the heavenly Jerusalem. I would say Jesus going to prepare a place signified His role as the mediator and the work He accomplished through His death, resurrection, and ascension. I...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I’m surprised you don’t have two NHNEs. From a previous conversation we had, you have two kingdoms of heaven. New Jerusalem comes down and is in NHNE in Revelation 21, yet we have currently come to the heavenly Jerusalem. Having only one NHNE should show that there is an overlap where OHOE...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    One thing we do know is that Psalm 22:27 has to take place prior to an Amil NHNE where there is no more death. Psalm 22:29(NIV) All the rich of the earth will feast and worship; all who go down to the dust will kneel before him— those who cannot keep themselves alive.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Verses the Amil view of fire coming down from heaven, cooking all the humans to a golden brown which gives the poor defenseless birds a good meal, just prior to the end of the planet. Well, once you’re able to figure out Psalm 22:27 then I’ll let you know. Until then I’ll say sometimes...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    The sword is the word of God and I would say the great supper of God is referring to communion, where we are to eat His flesh and drink His blood. Those in Revelation 19 are not worthy so they are pictured eating the flesh of kings, captains, mighty men … You still haven’t given a direct...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Job was broken to pieces. Job 16:12 I was at ease, but he hath broken me asunder: he hath also taken me by my neck, and shaken me to pieces, and set me up for his mark.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Well, it appears you have the rod of iron being implemented at the final judgment which destroys His enemies and Psalm 22:27 has all the nations worshipping (no enemies in view). It would make sense that the rod of iron is used to get all the nations to worship but it wouldn’t make sense to...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    What about a verse such as Psalm 22:27, when does something like this take place? In NHNE? Psalm 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I’m not sure I’m following you. Are you saying the rod of iron is used at the GWTJ then after that the iron rod is not used? Or do you have the rod of iron being used for eternity?
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Ok, after His future coming, why is the rod of iron needed? The unsaved would be in the LOF and there is no sorrow, crying, or pain in the NHNE.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    The Premils seem to be saying the ruling with the rod of iron takes place in the millennium, not happening now. Your comment about the good Shepherd defending the flock by whacking the wolves would have to be taking place in an Amil millennium (currently), right? If so then wouldn’t that place...