Once Saved Always Saved

[kcnalp]

Correct.

You actually believe you CANNOT sin ?????

 

[kcnalp]

Yeah that's what I thought. You do not understand what it is that makes us worthy of Death. That would explain why you water down the law..


I said I do not teach OSAS. I teach Jesus and him crucified. And salvation by grace through faith. Everything else is given once we recieve Christ.

OSAS is a doctrine. Which is meaningless to those who are not saved,



What? Because God promised all those things?

Why do you deny the power of God to change his people? And deny his love and its power to change his people?



Yet everything you teach is based on what YOU must do. Not what God has done, is doing and will continue to do.

NOSAS is based on mans work not Gods work.

Great!!! I can't lose! I can never be lost according to you! I'm at least as well off as OSASers!

 

[kcnalp]

He did not say they could lose salvation. Thats your interpretation. If we can lose salvation. God is a liar!.

Or OSASers TWIST Scripture.

Yet the author of hebrews said I have been perfected forever (justified)

He said YOU? Where?

The term justified. literally means declared righteous.

Of course I am still being sanctified. NO ONE is perfect (sinless).

Heb 10: 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

I love how you hate to even respond to the passages I give.

But I LOVE responding to OSAS. It leads people to Hell fire!

 

[kcnalp]

This is not eternal salvation. This is speaking about the tribulation period. And how whoever endures to the end of this period will be saved (This is physical salvation not eternal salvation)

once again, you take a passage out of Context. And once again you make God contradict himself.

And here you told me you did not trust in self?? Here is is YOU enduring to the end.

I pray you start looking inside and seeing where your faith truly lies

Jesus was including those He was talking to in the tribulation?

 

[kcnalp]

NOSAS rejects faith in God and places the onus of salvation on self and mankinds ability

Not true.

Eternal life and the seal of the spirit and all of Gods promises of eternal security are not dangerous. In fact John said it is our knowledge we have eternal life which empowers us to continue to believe.

You offer hope is self. which is no hope at all.

If OSAS is true I NOTHING to worry about! I have believed in Jesus and the Bible for many years!

 

[kcnalp]

If NOSAS is wrong your leading people to Hell.

Nope, I believe Jesus.
2 Peter 1:10-11 (NKJV)
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Once again. That passage is not about eternal salvation

What if you're wrong?

 

[kcnalp]

I still think most people hate OSAS because they attribute it to Calvin and the 5 point TULIP plan. Its the old Calvin Vs Arminian debate. If you believe in predestination, OSAS and the like you are calvinist.

If you believe in free will, NOSAS and the like you are arminian.

then of course we have the third group which would be those who come from the Roman church.

I never heard of OSAS until I joined a christian chat room. While the term represents (once a person is saved, they will always remain saved) I agree with. as I think here reading your post, I am not even sure I know what the doctrine of OSAS teaches. I guess I should look this up.

I agree with predestination. As with the other passages. It shows that God did not make a mistake. He chose to save us not only before the foundation. But he will never lose one. Election. Although I disagree with modern day calvinist thinking of double predestination. Like you said, the word is biblical and it a fact. Not fiction.

If OSAS is right I'll be fine! If OSAS is from Satan will you be fine?

 

[kcnalp]

You said, "if" OSASers are wrong, (which they are NOT!!!)

Great! I have nothing to worry about!

and because you do not understand what salvation is.

What would you like to know about Christian salvation?

Jesus said in John 10:26-29:

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father’s hand.

If the above does NOT describe OSAS, then I don't know what salvation is!

You should have kept reading the Bible.

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

If there is no ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED in the Bible, who then will live with Jesus in heaven forever?

To God Be The Glory

You don't know? Oh my!

 

[justbyfaith]

If you Believe the Gospel And Get a glimpse Of Jesus You would never want to walk away,

And yet you have waked away from Him by attributing what is of the Holy Spirit to demons.

But you're preaching to a Christian Forum.

Do you really think that everyone who frequents a Christian forum is necessarily born again?

There are many who frequent forums like these who still sin.

1Jo 3:9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[HisLife]

And yet you have waked away from Him by attributing what is of the Holy Spirit to demons.

That is so Delusional you should really explain yourself... Your Rambling was not the word of God, I did The Right Thing in the right Situation, You are under a Delusion where you think What you say Has The Authority of God even when you are wrong you even attribute your wrongs to the Holy Spirit even When your wrong contradicts Scripture its really over the line its amazing but if you have something to discuss it would be great but you just throwing around rubbish

 

[Addy]

@HisLife from across the pond.


GOOD MORNING TO YOU..... I wanted to show you my new glasses... they are not as cool as yours but by golly... they help me see much better.

 

[justbyfaith]

That is so Delusional you should really explain yourself... Your Rambling was not the word of God, I did The Right Thing in the right Situation, You are under a Delusion where you think What you say Has The Authority of God even when you are wrong you even attribute your wrongs to the Holy Spirit even When your wrong contradicts Scripture its really over the line its amazing but if you have something to discuss it would be great but you just throwing around rubbish

You are not forgiven.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Whose work, Whos Judge. I was hoping you would see in the verse that they didn't see the good works in their lives, Also The ones that thought they did were wrong

What they didn't see was that Jesus was being comforted when they comforted others. Matthew 25:37-39. Just as the unrighteous did not see that Jesus was not being comforted when they did not comfort others. Matthew 25:44.

 

[kcnalp]

And yet you have waked away from Him by attributing what is of the Holy Spirit to demons.

Another OSAS judge!

Do you really think that everyone who frequents a Christian forum is necessarily born again?

There are many who frequent forums like these who still sin.

You don't have a clue why you preach OSAS!

1Jo 3:9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You never sin?

 

[HisLife]

You are not forgiven.

Pope Hollywood doesn't decide!

 

[HisLife]

GOOD MORNING TO YOU..... I wanted to show you my new glasses... they are not as cool as yours but by golly... they help me see much better.

Hahaha Hi my Friend, I saw a few posts and wondered if it was you, Nice to know that it is you!, ummm yes very nice Glasses not quite as cool as mine and maybe a lil too big but really suit ya :)

 

[Addy]

Hahaha Hi my Friend, I saw a few posts and wondered if it was you, Nice to know that it is you!, ummm yes very nice Glasses not quite as cool as mine and maybe a lil too big but really suit ya :)

Well... I wanted to get my money's worth... You know what they say.... GO BIG or GO HOME.

 

[Addy]

Pope Hollywood doesn't decide!

LOL...

 

[justbyfaith]

Pope Hollywood doesn't decide!

See John 20:22-23.

The Holy Spirit within me decides...and He says that you have insulted Him at the very least.

He offers you the equivalent of forgiveness (2 Samuel 14:14, Acts of the Apostles 3:19).

 

[justbyfaith]

Pope Hollywood doesn't decide!

You must not even realize that statements like these are disparaging and that they will be perceived as having been said in hatred. You are like the "mean girls" in the song I keep hearing on the radio...