Taken
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[18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
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1 cor 1
[18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Believing on Him before the Cross meant that you would receive the Spirit after Jesus was resurrected.
For the Spirit and the Holy Ghost are one and the selfsame Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).
amigo de christo
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Peter said it as well , For if ye DO these things ye shall never Fall . Let us learn what they taught and JESUS taught and learn it well .
for many men now preach acroymns , the teachings of men and not rather JESUS and HIS teachings and the reminders in that bible .
amigo de christo
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YES IT IS . LET THE LORD BE PRAISED .
Let us examine what it is to have the true faith . For that entails our faith is in JESUS .
We would trust HIM as a child . And if he warned to be a doer and james did too , let us do and continue on in the same spirit .
Thus let us simply embrace every promise and every warning , as it is good for our souls .
Now , on that note , TIME TO PRAISE THE GLORIOUS LORD .
But , then me thinks its always TIME TO PRAISE THE KING .
After all , HE surely saved one of the worst WHEN HE saved ME .
Forgiven of a moutain of sins i was . PRAISE GOD for THE MERCY of HIS GRACE which is GIVEN US IN JESUS CHRIST .
SING IT and let the LORD BE PRAISED .
Note: He NEVER said that the bread He will OFFER is my flesh, or which He will OFFER for the life of the world! Rather the verse stipulates the word is "give."
This speaks about sacrifices and offerings in the Old Testament. That is, Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice (offering) once and for all.
This must be read in light of Romans 3:10-11...if God's assessment of the human race is such, who then will BELIEVE and ASK? No one, Not any, Nada, Zilch, Zero!
FALSE! Read John 15:16
If God looks in the corridor of life (if there is such a thing) He will find a human race that are dirty rotten sinners!
Answer: Ro.3:11
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you." John 15:16
Not according to Romans 3:11 where we read: "There is NONE that understand, there is NONE that SEEKS after God."
To God Be The Glory
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No wonder you deny the Son of God and God the Father!
1 John 2:22 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
No scripture exists that says future sins are forgiven. That is utter falsehood
As Jesus poured out His Blood on the Cross, God cancelled the Law that was against us and “Forgave is ALL our sins” ( Col 2:13 )
“He is Faithful and just to purify us from ALL Unrighteousness...”
“Nothing can separate us from God's Love......not death nor life, not angels or rulers, not things in the present or THINGS IN THE “ FUTURE”......seeing how “FUTURE “ sins would be something happening in the “ FUTURE” , and they can’t separate us from God, they must have been Forgiven....
How many of your sins were in the “ FUTURE” when Christ died for them 2000 years go? That’s Right—— ALL of them!
If Jesus did not die for All Of your Sins at the Cross ,you don't have a prayer ......thinking that you can remember, confess and repent of every sin since you got Saved is madness.....it’s a Delusion that might let you sleep better at night, but it is still a DELUSION .....Me? I do it God’s Way ....I don’t “ hold back God’s Grace” .....I’m “ covered” by it until God takes me home....
That knowledge that I am totally Forgiven no matter what I do, because of my Faith in Jesus, takes AWAY the desire to sin—— just the opposite of what those with limited intelligence think...Ya gotta actually “ Live” it to understand it, I think.... Until you REST in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing your chances of “Living” it are Non- Existent.....
As Jesus poured out His Blood on the Cross, God cancelled the Law that was against us and “Forgave is ALL our sins” ( Col 2:13 )
“He is Faithful and just to purify us from ALL Unrighteousness...”
“Nothing can separate us from God's Love......not death nor life, not angels or rulers, not things in the present or THINGS IN THE “ FUTURE”......seeing how “FUTURE “ sins would be something happening in the “ FUTURE” , and they can’t separate us from God, they must have been Forgiven....
How many of your sins were in the “ FUTURE” when Christ died for them 2000 years go? That’s Right—— ALL of them!
If Jesus did not die for All Of your Sins at the Cross ,you don't have a prayer ......thinking that you can remember, confess and repent of every sin since you got Saved is madness.....it’s a Delusion that might let you sleep better at night, but it is still a DELUSION .....Me? I do it God’s Way ....I don’t “ hold back God’s Grace” .....I’m “ covered” by it until God takes me home....
That knowledge that I am totally Forgiven no matter what I do, because of my Faith in Jesus, takes AWAY the desire to sin—— just the opposite of what those with limited intelligence think...Ya gotta actually “ Live” it to understand it, I think.... Until you REST in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing your chances of “Living” it are Non- Existent.....
Michiah-Imla
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And yet the scripture speaks of 7 Spirits here:
Revelation 3:1
[1] And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
CadyandZoe
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Hebrews 6:9-12
But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way. For God is not unjust so as to forget your work and the love which you have shown toward His name, in having ministered and in still ministering to the saints. And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence so as to realize the full assurance of hope until the end, so that you will not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Where we disagree is this. The New Testament doesn't teach us that everyone who "received the knowledge of the truth" is saved. This is a faulty assumption that both sides of the debate affirm. It is an assumption I held for a long time. However, the Bible's claims of salvation are only guaranteed for those in whose heart God has poured out his spirit (e.g. Romans 5:5, Ephesians 1:13) and only these folks are actually being saved. And as Paul says in Romans 5, those in whose heart God has poured out his spirit will never lose their salvation. Peter and James say similar things.
Although Paul gives the Hebrews a stern warning, he remains convinced that they will not fall away. He bases his assessment on their behavior and especially their beneficence toward the saints. Paul can't peer into their hearts; but he can do the next best thing, witness them in action.
And I am not convinced by textual critics who attempt to ascertain authorship through the study of writing style. Based on my own experience, I have noticed a change in my own writing style over time. Those who write all the time, make small changes in style over time, which build up to larger changes. We are always trying to improve our communication skills in hopes that more people will come to a full knowledge of the truth. I can't imagine that Paul didn't attempt to improve his style over time, just like the rest of us. (smile)
Michiah-Imla
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2 Timothy 2:12
...if we deny him,
he also will deny us
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God;
but in works they deny him,
being abominable, and disobedient,
and unto every good work reprobate.
...if we deny him,
he also will deny us
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God;
but in works they deny him,
being abominable, and disobedient,
and unto every good work reprobate.
The sins that I will have committed five minutes from now, will be in the past five minutes and 1 second from now.
So then, the fact that past sins are forgiven means that future sins are forgiven.
Of course, 1 John 1:9 just might be a factor.
That is more accurately translated as "the sevenfold Spirit of God", in order to avoid contradiction (and also the original Greek bears it out)...for there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).
Michiah-Imla
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More accurately than what expert translators’ have rendered in their translation committee?
Do you have your own “more accurate” translation of the holy scriptures translated by yourself?
Well then, Stop using less accurate Bibles then.
Be consistent and don’t use various weights and measures:
Proverbs 20:23
Divers weights are an abomination unto the Lord ; and a false balance is not good.
[perhaps there’s a translation error here too... huh?]
Behold
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Once you are born again, you are always born again.
Once the Blood of Jesus has been applied to you, its always applied to you.
Heretics have no understanding of "Salvation", or what it means to be "born again".
This is why they insist on denying God's provided blood atonement.
See, to deny that God keeps you saved, is to teach that you can lose your salvation.
So, this need to defy the Cross and contradict God's Grace is how you recognize a Heretic.
Michiah-Imla
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Behold
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1Jn1:9 is a factor, if you not saved.
Otherwise, its nothing.
Also there is a REASON all your sins are forgiven.
What is the reason?
A.) The Cross
So, if you can come to understand that what happened 2000 yrs ago, is why your sin is GONE..
And if you can come to see that the born again, are not under the Law, then you have taken your first step toward understanding that sin is not a part of the "new Creation".
Sin, is a part of the OLD NATURE., and this is "crucified with Christ".
What is left, is the MIND, that is not renewed, and in this soul realm, you have "sin consciousness".
But that is not the same as having "indwelling sin", as only unbelievers have indwelling sin.
Michiah-Imla
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Don’t you wish these scriptures did not exist so you wouldn’t have to create false narratives about them?
Hebrews 10:26-27
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Colossians 1:21-23
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: IF YE CONTINUE in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel
Romans 11:22-23
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF THOU CONTINUE in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Taken
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Maybe consider, and you may have witnessed this...I have.
What about the guy who Confesses Belief before a congregation of witnesses...
Water Baptism ... now a member of that church.
Gets married in that church.
Maybe becomes a deacon.
Very involved in church activities.
Does business for church members.
Get the idea?
Then one day announces...
He no longer Believes.
What do people say?
His confession was from his "Carnal Minded" thoughts, "not his Hearts thoughts", he didn't become "unsaved", He was never Saved to begin with?
(I think that is likely true.)
Also true is, that man fooled many people.
And People do not liked to be Made to look like a fool.
What does that do to a Beginner Learning about God?
What does that do to an Atheist?
IF they know of this man...
Does it MAKE God Appear...untrustworthy?
Saves...then Unsaves...Can't with all His Power KEEP a man Saved?
So the man lives the rest of his life...
Without God....and the day comes he falls gravely ill...dying...and calls out to God.
Knocks at Gods door...to Save him...
Reminds God of the "Good" things he did in the church.
Matt 7:
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
What does God say?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Bottom line.
It is NOT about "Appearences", of what men can see on the "outside Works of the Flesh".
It is "all about" the inside "from the heart of a man".
Glory to God,
Taken
Behold
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Justbyfaith is explaining to you that The Blood of Jesus redeems him from all sin.
You seem to think that the blood of Jesus isn't a complete forgiveness and a completed redemption from ALL sin...... and that eternal life is temporary.
You would teach that God's blood is only as good as your behavior.
Your theology is darkness, pretending to be truth, but your anti-Cross theology, is indeed dark.
Christ told you "be careful that the light in you is not darkness".
This means that when you believe what is not truth, you have an inner darkness that you believe is Light.
He's not kidding.
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