Where does the Bible say...

[theefaith]

Spin. What about confession and transubstantiation, to name 2?

included in to sanctify thru the sacraments

 

[theefaith]

Spin. What about confession and transubstantiation, to name 2?

do you agree the priesthood of Christ and the apostles has the power to forgive sins and offer the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ???

 

[theefaith]

This is all quite amusing considering the premise of the original post of this thread. Seems to nullify the whole affair entirely.[/QUOTE

as I said you don’t believe Jesus or the Bible

 

[mjrhealth]

explain these verses please


Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Only if the one you are listening too was sent by Him, and many are not, a man cab give himself any title he pleases donsnt mean he was sent from God, in fact if any man walk around with a title over his head, he probably wasnt, because no man sent by God would be arrogant enough to wear one Sometimes we are entertained by angels, but how would you know, Israel missed its visitation, and Jesus wept, wont be any different when He comes,. men still refusing Him and playing religion to their own demise, but your choice, not His.

 

[BarneyFife]

do you agree the priesthood of Christ and the apostles has the power to forgive sins and offer the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ???

The priesthood of Christ and the duties of the apostles are not the same things. Apostolic succession is a myth.

 

[BarneyFife]

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[BarneyFife]

15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)

16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

***17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.

18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,

22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.

23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,

***25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

***26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

the doctrine is here hence APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION!!!

Vagueries. Not a mention of apostolic succession. Not a word.

 

[theefaith]

Vagueries. Not a mention of apostolic succession. Not a word.

mare you demanding that the Bible has the actual words “apostolic succession “???

 

[Brakelite]

Got it.....YOU decide who is “with scripture”.....anyone that disagrees with you is wrong

No. You don't get it. And according to what you've written previously your own Catholic writers are wrong in your opinion because they agree with scripture. No surprise there.

 

[Brakelite]

how can you honor the sabbath or worship God, you have no Levitical priesthood no ark no temple no ashes of the red Hefner etc. ???

KJV Exodus 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Where in the above Commandment is there any reference to what you said?

 

[theefaith]

KJV Exodus 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Where in the above Commandment is there any reference to what you said?

sabbath is a day of worship
Since you follow Jewish religion and feasts and fasts and sabbaths I assume you would also go with their worship in place of Christian worship??? The offering of the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ

 

[mjrhealth]

KJV Exodus 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Where in the above Commandment is there any reference to what you said?

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

But your still hanging onto the old.

 

[theefaith]

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

But your still hanging onto the old.

how? The church is the new creation new covenant!

 

[Marymog]

You're contradicting yourself here. Deciding what you believe and deciding what the truth is are the same thing, barring mental illness. Why wouldn't someone believe what they believe to be the truth is?

there are some Christians who have decided that baptism is necessary and saves and others that baptism isn’t necessary and doesn’t save. Some have decided that abortion isn’t murder. All use scripture to support their “truth”. According to your theory no matter what they believe it is the truth....
Even though their “truths” oppose each other.

 

[Marymog]

The priesthood of Christ and the duties of the apostles are not the same things. Apostolic succession is a myth.

no one succeeded the Apostles??? Throw out Acts 1:20-26??? Hmmmm...

 

[theefaith]

no one succeeded the Apostles??? Throw out Acts 1:20-26??? Hmmmm...

throw out matt 28:19-20 also behold I (Christ) am with you (the apostles) until the end of the age

 

[BarneyFife]

mare you demanding that the Bible has the actual words “apostolic succession “???

No. I have no burden to, or demands for, proving something I don't believe is valid. It doesn't matter to me how many people believe and practice it. I don't believe the Bible teaches the type of church organization and discipline the Catholic church teaches. It's really that simple. I also don't believe that all or at least many Protestants practice church organization and discipline properly. But the shortcomings of Protestantism doesn't make Catholicism the default model of propriety. Sorry if this offends any, but I can't pretend to believe something I don't. :)

 

[BarneyFife]

no one succeeded the Apostles??? Throw out Acts 1:20-26??? Hmmmm...

No, just don't agree with the Catholic interpretation thereof.

 

[Brakelite]

sabbath is a day of worship
Since you follow Jewish religion and feasts and fasts and sabbaths I assume you would also go with their worship in place of Christian worship??? The offering of the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ

You have no idea of what you are saying. Your entire statement above is one of assumptions and preconceived opinion and has no basis in reality.

 

[Brakelite]

KJV Exodus 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Where in the above is there any of the following?

sabbath is a day of worship
Since you follow Jewish religion and feasts and fasts and sabbaths I assume you would also go with their worship in place of Christian worship??? The offering of the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ