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FollowHim

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Time to dispatch the local branch of the National Guard to take those police into custody. The only video I've found of this:

Is it a criminal act to obey the boss and exercise his right to restrict access to a building?
Has the understanding of the role of law and authority changed so much, people doing their duty is now a criminal act?

I would humbly suggest this is the tenor of a political outlook and not of someone doing their job.

The current situation reminds me of people who have cancer believing this is satans work and all they have to do is have faith in God and they will be healed. Not if it is Gods will, it is Gods will for them to be well, and satans victory if they die.

I have seen people die in this very belief, which is unfortunate, because who is the Lord of all and who has everything in His hands? Israel was brought low by Babylon, Babylon was Gods hand of rebuke on them. David equally when faced with a man cursing him, said to leave him alone, because maybe God had sent him to rebuke David.

I just believe in staying faithful and following the Lords ways. We are His servants, and He brings all things together for those who love the Lord.

God bless you
 

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Well it is not some thing that the communist media or webs are going to air.
One America News is running it on TV.
No, communist media are as much an enemy of this country as is Biden/Harris/Pelosi/Schumer/HRC/BHO/and the entire Democratic, or should I say, Demoncratic party are. It's not a theory when the agents of the enemy of Christ conspire to destroy America.
I like OAN. That's my network of choice. :)

One America News Network

OANN Video
 

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I just looked up the official oath of office,.. and it looks like if Biden truly will be sworn in on inauguration day he'll be lying through his teeth again as there's no way that he's going to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution. I highly doubt he even knows what it is.
 

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I'll be waiting for that. :) Our God is an awesome God.
I won't believe he'll let a Demon and a Succubus be in the highest seats of power over we the people. They're both pro-abortion, even to late term when the baby is being delivered alive in the delivery room! And they're anti-Christian.
If they are God's plan it has to be a doozy. But I won't believe they are. I like your optimism. I'll be watching to see what happens. :)
Water song lets discuss what you just said . YOUR RIGHT , OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD
But lets talk about the part where you said i cant believe he will let a demon and etc be in the highest seats of power .
DO You truly believe that God would never allow that . THEN READ REVELATION . HE SURE WILL .
I TOLD us GOD IS IN CONTROL . BUT we both know The beast is gonna sit on top of this world . AND YEAH its gonna be demon infected big time .
God told us exactly where the world was gonna head near the end . I know , we dont want them in . But GOD IS IN CONTROL .
Either way , WE GONNA PRAISE HIM through it all . We dont fear them men , man . GOD IS our helper .
Sie order was not gonna be stopped . NO , in time the kings will as one surrender unto the beast . GOD simply
let the church know in revleation . Even used men like paul to warn what was coming . even peter . AND OH YES JESUS HIMSELF said so .
Dont get disheartened my friend . IN THE END the lambs win . Sure we wont support evil , but these are the last days .
AND yeah delusion and evil is gonna abound massive . OH , we got the KING through it all . Just remember that . OH YES
just remember that . AND NEVER CONFORM to a lie , the lie of the great reset , of the all inclusive unity lie which will lead them all
RIGHT to the beast and his kings and HE will rule one hour . ITS COMING my friend . IT GROWS FAST and cant be stopped my friend .
 

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Water song lets discuss what you just said . YOUR RIGHT , OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD
But lets talk about the part where you said i cant believe he will let a demon and etc be in the highest seats of power .
DO You truly believe that God would never allow that . THEN READ REVELATION . HE SURE WILL .
I TOLD us GOD IS IN CONTROL . BUT we both know The beast is gonna sit on top of this world . AND YEAH its gonna be demon infected big time .
God told us exactly where the world was gonna head near the end . I know , we dont want them in . But GOD IS IN CONTROL .
Either way , WE GONNA PRAISE HIM through it all . We dont fear them men , man . GOD IS our helper .
Sie order was not gonna be stopped . NO , in time the kings will as one surrender unto the beast . GOD simply
let the church know in revleation . Even used men like paul to warn what was coming . even peter . AND OH YES JESUS HIMSELF said so .
Dont get disheartened my friend . IN THE END the lambs win . Sure we wont support evil , but these are the last days .
AND yeah delusion and evil is gonna abound massive . OH , we got the KING through it all . Just remember that . OH YES
just remember that . AND NEVER CONFORM to a lie , the lie of the great reset , of the all inclusive unity lie which will lead them all
RIGHT to the beast and his kings and HE will rule one hour . ITS COMING my friend . IT GROWS FAST and cant be stopped my friend .
We'll see. :)
Still praying.
 
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I have no shame in saying what I said. Do you think becasue you didn't name names that this clears you of your fault?

Clears me of fault? That is weird you think making a general statement makes someone at fault.

I saw the video.

So?
Does that make you involved in a case?
Does that somehow make you at "fault" for your opinion?

And guess what? In America a DA saw the video, and the video in part with testimony, was presented before a grand jury. And a grand jury indicted the man

And so?
In America, a grand jury is one Legal process for making A FORMAL CHARGE!
Did you somehow overlook...A FORMAL CHARGE is the "procedural step" to Authorize a TRIAL?

who pressed his body weight upon a prone man's back and throat for nearly 8 minutes, FOR MURDER!

Again...
A formal Accusation and A formal Charge.
That is a procedure, Not a trial, Not a Conviction!

As was the case for the accomplices of that man.

So? Funny how Police Officers/ Emergengy Responders went from being Responders TO Accomplices ... BEFORE a Trial proceeding has Taken place!

George is dead!
He suffocated to death under a mans body weight that curshed the ability to breath out of George Floyd for nearly 8 minutes and using an ILLEGAL HOLD.

While you may believe yourself an expert in All the facts "of a case you are Not involved in"... I choose to stand with "Charges" as a Lawful procedure that is followed by A Lawful "Trial".

What is disgusting is how you claim I decided a conviction

Yes. You Decided. You said. That is your claim. Disgusting on my part, to notice what you said? Ridiculous.

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"_____ Is Dead, therefore it IS MURDER"

while you, thinking because you didn't name George Floyd, in effect implied he shouldn't be surprised his actions caused his death.

My thinking was clear.
My thinking has not changed.
People live, People die.
Every gift of life is by Gods Design.
Every end of Life is when the Blood (which IS the LIFE of a man), stops circulating, Again Gods design.
And during ANY man's Life-Time, men make choices, which WILL "affect" their well being or detriment of their Life.
Anyone MAKING a "formal" CHARGE or "street screaming" Charge, or "Media charge" against another person...is simply "an accusation"...
Not a big secret...People on the sidelines have Opinions..."even going so far as to "declare" a "conviction"...and "labeling" those they "convict"...A Murderer.
I could care less your voluntary "involvement" or "opinion" in a case, that has nothing to do with me.
I'm sure the Specific Case (you have mentioned) that IS "PENDING" (because that case HAS NOT gone to TRIAL) will Lawfully Proceed in a Lawful Court. (Most likely, without your presense or input). And definitely without my presence or input.

THOU SHALT NOT MURDER!
God said that.

I am well aware of Gods teaching.
I am well aware of the difference between Murder and Kill, and the Result thereof.
I am also well aware of "making accusations" is Not the measure of "Deciding" a case.

You feel no shame.

Of course I feel no shame! I am not the one declaring anyone Guilty, because someone was Accused! That would be you!

That's sad. I feel shame for you.

Really? You think it's SAD, to "NOT convict" a person, Without Discovery of All the Facts and A "TRIAL"?
That IS about as anti-American as one can get!
You can KEEP "your Shame", for yourself.

I stand unashamed, for NOT Convicting a person, BEFORE, A TRIAL.

Beware those who call evil good and good evil.

Beware ... to Actually HEAR someone Calling Evil Good and Good Evil, BEFORE trying to make that calling FOR THEM!

Pay attention to WHO is Calling someone a murderer, based on An Accusation...(that would be YOU)

I Full well KNOW...there is a period of Time between an Incident, an Accusation, A Formal Charge, a gathering of FACTS, a Trial and Judgement.
No, Much as you try to project, YOUR Sadness and YOUR Shame ON ME...it is a fail.
I am not sad, nor ashamed to Wait for a Lawful rendering of Judgement!
 
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Law Enforcement training and standardizing procedures is something that needs to happen...


Standardizing ... would fall into the category of a Sovereign State, dictating via State Law, a Standard for Training AND Procedures to be The Exact SAME requirement, in Every Local Jurisdiction.

That call...rests with the citizens and legislature of every Individual Sovereign State.

It is historically, MANY Sovereign States, the Degree of Training...in a particular Jurisdiction...
Dependent upon...factors within "that Jurisdiction."
For Example:
1) The historical Amount of Crimes
2) The Severity of Crimes
3) The Willingness of the citizens Within That Jurisdiction TO PAY (higher taxes), For "Extensive" training For Responders to a Suspicion of a crime.
4) WHO Exactly is going to Determine, the Extent of Training and Procedures.

People have the Liberty to travel about between Sovereign States. It is the Individuals responsibility to not only obey another States Laws...but to Know what an Others States Laws ARE.

People have the Liberty to MOVE and Become domicled in another State. It is by Establishing a Formal Declaration with the other State, that that person Formally becomes A "citizen" of that State, and thereafter IS Subject to THAT States Laws regarding "citizens" and that States Local Laws of Counties, Cities, etc.

There was a case blasted all over the news...
Look, look a video...Guilty, Guilty.
Zero facts...in the "media court"... that pertain TO That Sovereign States Law or Local Jurisdictions Laws.
Illegal, Illegal holds on a Suspect!!!
Maybe not, Maybe so...I haven't a clue, the Crime stats, the Injury stats, what the Citizens of that jurisdiction have willingly agreed to, IF the Harmed Lawfully established himself as a citizen. Videos show an uncooperative Person. I haven't a clue the procedure in that States Jurisdiction of a Responders Training or authority to use that training.
I am fully Aware, I have ZERO sayso in the Laws of a Sovereign State of which I am NOT a citizen.

People running around IN the streets in NY complaining about Laws in the Sovereign State of MN...is ridiculous.

What is sad, IMO, is the Utter Fail of American citizens being utterly uninformed of the Lawful historical Structure OF of the United States.
 

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According to the media... the electoral college has certified it's votes and Biden has won with 306 votes.
I have also read that Mr. Trump still has some options. At what point is this issue settled? I would think
that once the electoral college has certified their votes... that it is finished... leading to the inauguration on
Jan. 20th to make it official.
 

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According to the media... the electoral college has certified it's votes and Biden has won with 306 votes.
I have also read that Mr. Trump still has some options. At what point is this issue settled? I would think
that once the electoral college has certified their votes... that it is finished... leading to the inauguration on
Jan. 20th to make it official.
According to the constitution it is the power of the legislature to send the electors. They have all delegated that power to the executive branches of the states to run the election and report the results. So what we have are legislatures taking back their power, and appointing their own electors. Which electors will be recognized as the true electors for these states by the US senate? I think this will become a legal battle decided by the supreme court.

That is assuming the conditions are not met to withdraw the electors sent by the state legislatures. I don't know what those conditions are, and who decides they are met.
 

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According to the constitution it is the power of the legislature to send the electors. They have all delegated that power to the executive branches of the states to run the election and report the results. So what we have are legislatures taking back their power, and appointing their own electors. Which electors will be recognized as the true electors for these states by the US senate? I think this will become a legal battle decided by the supreme court.

That is assuming the conditions are not met to withdraw the electors sent by the state legislatures. I don't know what those conditions are, and who decides they are met.

You have been very kind to answer my questions along the way... and I thank you.
 

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@WaterSong @Taken Lets keep this topic's discussion related to the 2020 election.

Back to the Topic of this Thread.
A Federal Election, First procedure, is conducted by General Election of Authorized citizens within the Several States.
Improprieties being charged having occurred within the Several States, by citizens and noncitizens regarding a General Federal Election...is the Glaring Dilemma.

The host of DUCKING accountability at numerous Levels of established Reprieve is more than disturbing.

We get little tid bits of evidentiary Evidence, and The Big Ink Splash of Reprive Rejected, the cheers, the disappointments repeatedly coming to pass.
I have an expectatation the momentary "cheers" of "and declaration of defeat", will fade, by and through Lawful reprieve.

No doubt in my mind, as this DEBACLE is Lawfully Reviewed, Judged and Reprieved... the Divide will remain.

Glory to God,
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According to the constitution it is the power of the legislature to send the electors. They have all delegated that power to the executive branches of the states to run the election and report the results. So what we have are legislatures taking back their power, and appointing their own electors. Which electors will be recognized as the true electors for these states by the US senate? I think this will become a legal battle decided by the supreme court.

That is assuming the conditions are not met to withdraw the electors sent by the state legislatures. I don't know what those conditions are, and who decides they are met.

As far as the argument seems to go the GOP electors are there only if the legislators vote to put them there. There was no legislature vote, they are just protesting without a legal foundation.

There is good reason to question the vote on use of the Dominion machines, but legally the system certified the result. There are many innocent people in jail but to free them you need a legal path.

Some demonise all democrats which is dividing the country. How does that work? Jesus calls us to love our enemies, bless not curse them.

It seems claiming God is with one while demonising the opposition is not following God at all. The great falling away is gaining pace which is sad but then the elect never stop listening and following Jesus.

God bless you
 

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According to the constitution it is the power of the legislature to send the electors. They have all delegated that power to the executive branches of the states to run the election and report the results. So what we have are legislatures taking back their power, and appointing their own electors. Which electors will be recognized as the true electors for these states by the US senate? I think this will become a legal battle decided by the supreme court.

That is assuming the conditions are not met to withdraw the electors sent by the state legislatures. I don't know what those conditions are, and who decides they are met.

Electoral College arises from Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3...

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States shall be appointed an Elector.

Each of the Several States can decide WHO they will Nominate and Appoint and Certify to BE an Elector within their State.

No State has the Authority "to Supersede" the US Constitution.

No Person holding an Office of Trust...
No Person having Profit "under the US".

Example: NY State, list of State Appointed Electors;

William J. Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Andrew M. Cuomo, Kathy C. Hochul, Thomas P. DiNapoli, Letitia A. James, Jay S. Jacobs, Carl E. Heastie, Andrea Stewart-Cousins, Scott Stringer, Corey Johnson, Byron W. Brown (Mayor of Buffalo), Christine C. Quinn (Executive Committee Chair, NYS Democratic Committee), Hazel Dukes (President, New York State NAACP), Alphonso David (Human Rights Campaign), Mario F. Cilento (AFL-CIO President), Rhonda “Randi” Weingarten (AFT President), George K Gresham (1199 SEIU President), Mary Sullivan (CSEA President), Stuart H. Appelbaum (RWDSA President), Gary LaBarbera (Building and Construction Trades Council of Greater New York), Lovely A. Warren (Mayor of Rochester), Thomas J. Garry (Vice Chair of Nassau Democratic Committee), Katherine M. Sheehan, Anastasia M. Somoza (Disability Rights Advocate), June O’Neill (Former NYS Dem Chair), Ruben Diaz Jr., Xiao Wang (Mother of Alexander Wang, NYS Democratic Committee Executive Director), Judith Hunter (Chair of the Democratic Rural Conference of NYS)...

Anyone Notice a Name of a person...
Who holds an Office of Trust?
Who Profits under the US?

Appears to me, the majority, nearly every Elector for the State of NY, IS a person holding a position of Trust...or Profiting under the US.

Ex President of US, continued yearly PAY.
Ex Secretary of State, continued yearly PAY.
Sitting Mayors, holding Offices of Trust.
Sitting Presidents and Board members holding Offices of Trust.

Obviously the citizens at Large in the State of NY, have NOT challenged their own State Legislative Representatives, on the US Constitutional Merits of Appointing Electors holding Offices of Trust or Profits under the US....NOR the fact that Several Electors Reside in the Same Jurisdictional District...while Other Districts HAVE Zero Representation.

Who the NY State Legislature Appointed as Electors in a Federal Election...is no cause for Harm...UNTIL...a person not Lawfully ENTITLED to accept that Appointed position, casts an Unlawful vote.
It is not far fetched...(Hilly and Billy Clinton, repeatedly touting themselves as Attorneys and each having held US Government positions, and Each Accepting regular Pay from the US Government)...to believe they were "unaware" of their "ineligible status" to accept an Appointment of Elector for a Federal Election.

Very Telling.
 
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