Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

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There is a break on credibility here.

Journalists often know as much as us but can put together a picture of what's significant and what is not.

The facts summarised tell the story.

The Kraken has failed.

All that is left is can the tabulators show failure.

Sidney exaggerated her case.

The approach you support is supporting lies and slander in the hope the liar and fraud is the solution.

... wild statements if believed cause a break in people knowing what is possible and what is not.

LOL....that's RICH.
 
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I appreciate this post. And I understand what you are saying. But we have a disconnect when it comes to hearing both sides.
What fake news is, in relation to the fig tree analogy.. is there is NO fig tree.
It is propaganda used to incite people against each other.
Most news is all air, it has no substance to it. You read it, and you either believe it or you don't. It's that simple.
The ones controlling the narrative have a better chance at controlling the minds and moods of people that listen to them.

Real jouralism is being silenced. Has been for a long time. Censorship is real. Those who control what you read determine if it is worthy of being published. If it doesn't fit their narrative they label it as a conspiracy theory, or they "fact check" it and call it untrue if they can twist one line out of place. ie: I made 250,000 dollars last year. "Fact check" False. You made 249,999.99.
I see this everywhere. But when they want to "Fact check" their own, they will say "mostly true" .

It is this division they use against "us" the average people. Who are willing to compromise and adjust for the rounding up or down to a whole number. But they don't want you to think. They want to do your thinking for you.
That is why it is called FAKE NEWS.

Have you aactually seen the court documents? Read the judiciary findings? or are we just taking for granted what we are told is true?

I don't read or watch much news at all. I watch live feeds on FB and YT where people are on the street doing real time journalism.
Not those sitting in a comfy chair somewhere being told what to write to make us believe them.

You have a mind of your own.
You need to start using it.
And I don't mean YOU individually, I mean everyone has to learn to think for themselves.

IS THIS NORMAL??
Is what the world is ecperiencing COMMON SENSE?

No.

That's where you have to become the investigator yourself and stop relying on other people, other Agencies, with an agenda, for the truth.

God Bless You
Please keep an open mind.
Things are getting more and more difficult everyday.
The darkness of obscurity is closing in.
The only weapon against deception is your own belief in what Truth is.
Sometimes the facts are blurred or concealed or denied.
It is our job as a consumer of that information to disseminate it.

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wrong word disseminate.. we need to dissect it.

I have too many people I trust embedded all over the institutions and services. They all say the same thing, that the system works and is working to cope, but the truth is simple and straight forward.

But let me take Trump
"Thank you to Speaker Cutler and all others in Pennsylvania and elsewhere who fully understand what went on in the 2020 Election. It’s called total corruption!"

This one tweet relies on the fact of corruption. Let me suggest the analysis of the Tabulators with all their weaknesses and issues, were sound. It is totally possible, and having all the other issues, down to training, miss-understanding, bias and even limited fake ballots etc.
It could equally go the other way and demonstrate the software was tampered with and had a bias within it. Until the full picture emerges, we do not know which is real, and which is just speculation. But unfortunately 70% of republicans believe it was fake and corruptions is rife.
This is the Trump affect, which was equally true the other way after the Trump election.

But with this background, any serious leader who says "It's called total corruption" should not be in office.
Kings and dictators talk like this and people die. It is why democracy came in to stem this lunacy, and bring some safety and balance to normal life. It is also why we have stable currencies and not crypto currencies where one day your salary could be worth half it was yesterday.

Maybe the vast majority in society these concepts are too big to grasp. They did a survey about were people concerned who spied on who and which information was known. The answer was generally people did not care that much. Then the question became the sexual photos they sent to their partner were made public. Suddenly they cared an awful lot.

So if you will lose your job, family, security and home because this guy over there did something, people care a lot more, and phrases will "total corruption" become meaningful and dangerous. It is why Hitler got away with his extreme language for so long and managed to do appalling things, because people said, "He does not mean that, it is just exaggeration". No society can allow this run away language or treating others with disdain for no reason or just slander. Look at all the people like Jeffrey Epstein and who he mixed with.

God bless you
 

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I have too many people I trust embedded all over the institutions and services. They all say the same thing, that the system works and is working to cope, but the truth is simple and straight forward.

But let me take Trump
"Thank you to Speaker Cutler and all others in Pennsylvania and elsewhere who fully understand what went on in the 2020 Election. It’s called total corruption!"

This one tweet relies on the fact of corruption. Let me suggest the analysis of the Tabulators with all their weaknesses and issues, were sound. It is totally possible, and having all the other issues, down to training, miss-understanding, bias and even limited fake ballots etc.
It could equally go the other way and demonstrate the software was tampered with and had a bias within it. Until the full picture emerges, we do not know which is real, and which is just speculation. But unfortunately 70% of republicans believe it was fake and corruptions is rife.
This is the Trump affect, which was equally true the other way after the Trump election.

But with this background, any serious leader who says "It's called total corruption" should not be in office.
Kings and dictators talk like this and people die. It is why democracy came in to stem this lunacy, and bring some safety and balance to normal life. It is also why we have stable currencies and not crypto currencies where one day your salary could be worth half it was yesterday.

Maybe the vast majority in society these concepts are too big to grasp. They did a survey about were people concerned who spied on who and which information was known. The answer was generally people did not care that much. Then the question became the sexual photos they sent to their partner were made public. Suddenly they cared an awful lot.

So if you will lose your job, family, security and home because this guy over there did something, people care a lot more, and phrases will "total corruption" become meaningful and dangerous. It is why Hitler got away with his extreme language for so long and managed to do appalling things, because people said, "He does not mean that, it is just exaggeration". No society can allow this run away language or treating others with disdain for no reason or just slander. Look at all the people like Jeffrey Epstein and who he mixed with.

God bless you
Why don't you spend 1/10th of the time scrutinizing the other side.
I've looked at all sides. And I prefer the one I'm on.
God's.
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What is your point to Trash Talk The President of the United States To Americans?

It is a funny idea I am "trash talking" the president of United States. I am stating what he is saying and what the facts are saying.
If you want to say that Trump is outside facts and reality and I should respect him doing that, then you have a weird view of who you choose to be your representative.

I respect the role of head of state of any country, but reserve the right to speak plainly about their individual behaviour.
It is clear where loyalty is going, and where people are trying to defend behaviour which is undefendable.

It is the same as trying to overturn the election by saying ballots that have been submitted in a legal election, are now illegal and void.
If this step is taken, without another vote, this is a constitutional crisis. Clearly some want to go there.

And every enemy of the USA is happy to see the bonfire of vanities.........
Do you think the state is so unset because of the lack of proof of fraud, and the propoganda pushed by the Trump mouth pieces to destroy the country?

We are in economic difficult times, with things working well, except for idiological disagreements, but it is worth threatening this all over one man and his belief he won an election when everything else is saying he did not?

Once you accept lies as truth, speaking truth no longer puts constraints on behaviour.
Why did Venezuela fail? Because loyalty became more important than truth and economic success.
 

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Why don't you spend 1/10th of the time scrutinizing the other side. ...

He's picked his side, and we've picked ours. He'll receive his "reward", and we'll receive ours! :)

Matt. 15: 13 He answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”


With Very Best Regards,
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I think his point is, -- his father lies.

We all choose. :)
Bobby Jo

It finally comes to this. It is always the same road and the same conclusion once you leave facts behind.
Those who wait for facts become liars, and the deluded who trust the leader or the group are truth speakers.

There is a reason why the forensic analysis of the tabulators is taking a long time.
And what happens to this great movement when it is shown the elections were fair and straight?

Playing with fire, you get burnt, because feelings get raised about who you follow and why, and it is a quick flip to this is our country and those are the enemy, which has already taken place and is starting to set in.

They say at the top of a boom when the bubble bursts no one notices because they think it will continue to inflate forever.
It was postulated that the psychi of the US needed the cold war. 30 years later the enemy is becoming internal, and the focus the election, and the same drum beat is running, but the victim is now the country itself. Once the drum beat is set, what then?

There are enough guns etc to start a war, real armies able to fill the streets, hatred that could be set alight if actions were escalated.
Is this the future you want or to repent and turn to God in humbleness and grace and seek His ways and truth?

The intent are the seeds of this world and its kingdoms in the guise of faith, nothing more.
God bless you
 

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They are building another CHAZ zone in Portland Or.
I wonder how many people will get shot this time?
The Governor said He won't stand for it.
No cops are there to slow their progress.
So It's true. He isn't standing. He is sitting.. again.
These people need to go.
 
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Breaking: Committee Resolution Naming Joe Biden as President-Elect FAILS
by Jamie White

Democrats are beside themselves after a Senate resolution to recognize Joe Biden as the real president-elect failed to pass.

The Inaugural Committee voted down a resolution by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) on Tuesday naming Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden president-elect, with all three Republican members voting against it.

After the 3-3 vote, Hoyer issued a statement accusing the GOP of “threatening democracy.”

“The extent to which Republicans are refusing to accept the outcome of the election and recognize Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as our next President and Vice President is astounding. Their continued deference to President Trump’s post-election temper tantrums threatens our democracy and undermines faith in our system of elections,” Hoyer stated.

POLITICO reporter Heather Caygle noted that the resolution was meant to “notify the American people” that Congress was making preparations to inaugurate Biden and Harris.

The resolution was very basic, per folks with knowledge. It would’ve notified American people that Congress is preparing for inauguration of Biden and Harris “in coordination with health experts” as “we observe this transition of power.”

— Heather Caygle (@heatherscope) December 8, 2020
The committee comprises Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO).

This move is an embarrassing setback for Democrats and the media intent on insisting that Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
 

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Breaking: Committee Resolution Naming Joe Biden as President-Elect FAILS
by Jamie White

Democrats are beside themselves after a Senate resolution to recognize Joe Biden as the real president-elect failed to pass.

The Inaugural Committee voted down a resolution by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) on Tuesday naming Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden president-elect, with all three Republican members voting against it.

After the 3-3 vote, Hoyer issued a statement accusing the GOP of “threatening democracy.”

“The extent to which Republicans are refusing to accept the outcome of the election and recognize Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as our next President and Vice President is astounding. Their continued deference to President Trump’s post-election temper tantrums threatens our democracy and undermines faith in our system of elections,” Hoyer stated.

POLITICO reporter Heather Caygle noted that the resolution was meant to “notify the American people” that Congress was making preparations to inaugurate Biden and Harris.

The resolution was very basic, per folks with knowledge. It would’ve notified American people that Congress is preparing for inauguration of Biden and Harris “in coordination with health experts” as “we observe this transition of power.”

— Heather Caygle (@heatherscope) December 8, 2020
The committee comprises Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO).

This move is an embarrassing setback for Democrats and the media intent on insisting that Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Does the GOP finally see that their own chances for re-election would be destroyed if the fraud is allowed?
 

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Does the GOP finally see that their own chances for re-election would be destroyed if the fraud is allowed?
I believe they are seeing the 'light.' If there is no attempt to fight for the truth and the Constitution then we are surely lost as a country....if the Supremes fail to hear any of these appeals and cases we are also lost....and then if they hear at least one case and vote it/them down, do we still have a country?
 

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I believe they are seeing the 'light.' If there is no attempt to fight for the truth and the Constitution then we are surely lost as a country....if the Supremes fail to hear any of these appeals and cases we are also lost....and then if they hear at least one case and vote it/them down, do we still have a country?
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This move is an embarrassing setback for Democrats and the media intent on insisting that Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
If you want an example of "EVIL STUPIDITY" this takes the cake. Even Biden does not know whether he is Joe or Jill. And he has publicly said that if he has a dispute with Wicked Witch Harris, he will find any excuse to slink away and let her take full control. How much more pathetic can it get for man who said "You ain't black if you don't vote for Biden" (or words to that effect)? He also publicly said (a Freudian slip?) that "We have the greatest voter fraud organization in history" and no one bother to take that seriously.

"A Freudian slip is a verbal or memory mistake that is believed to be linked to the unconscious mind. These slips supposedly reveal the real secret thoughts and feelings that people hold."

What should be really upsetting to all those who are not insane is that Redfield, Fauci, Birx, Barr, Ray, Haspel, etc. (and a whole cabal of traitors working in the Trump administration) had not been summarily fired by Trump before the election. Self-sabotage is as bad as Freudian slips.
 

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... if the Supremes fail to hear any of these appeals and cases we are also lost....and then if they hear at least one case and vote it/them down, do we still have a country?

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That's like giving up on Lazarus, or giving up on Jesus and going fishing.

Have Faith in GOD. Bobby Jo

I'm not going fishing, I'm going to watch GOD defeat our enemies RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES.

And speaking of "enemies", -- what ever happened to GINA HASPEL? Where'd she disappear to?!? :rolleyes:
Bobby Jo :D
 
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That's like giving up on Lazarus, or giving up on Jesus and going fishing.

Have Faith in GOD. Bobby Jo

I'm not going fishing, I'm going to watch GOD defeat our enemies RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES.

And speaking of "enemies", -- what ever happened to GINA HASPEL? Where'd she disappear to?!? :rolleyes:
Bobby Jo :D
Probably testifying before a Grand Jury.. hopefully
 
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