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Protesters in Washington, Los Angeles, Raleigh, Portland take to the streets amid Election Night vote tallies

In Portland, demonstrators chanted "This is what democracy looks like" and some were seen openly carrying guns. The National Guard was on standby.


Two groups marched through Seattle with one carrying American flags and chanting "Black lives matter.

Left-leaning demonstrators planned Election Day protests for weeks.

Some protesters are already gearing up for a longer, more sustained pushback. Organizers at ShutDownDC plan for more aggressive actions as the week goes on depending on the outcome of the election, such as if President Donald Trump were to win reelection or to question the election outcome.

Election Day protests in DC, Philly updates: BLM, Protect the Results
 

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Below my intro, there is a worthwhile article for wholesale consumption here...I recommend it....to ponder on it from time to time, especially if you still have cognitive dissonance and cannot believe it....you know who you are....I can name the names of the squeamish and those that would rather find comfort in their own contrived mental bubble..

THIS IS WHAT JUST HAPPENED and many commoner (narrow-minded, dumbed -down) folks are too stupid to realize it .....A FRAUDULENT NOBODY, NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE without any conscience and sense of morality will WALTZ INTO THE WHITE HOUSE like a drunken fool, leaving the doors of this country wide open.....and announce it's Party time again...for 'his people' ..you, the people, are not invited.

The instruments of global power said: How dare these wretched
deplorables of America, our own plantation workers in the Americas, try to regain their own plantation back again, under Trump. We had to put a stop to it before it got out of hand, where its peoples were showing signs of life and freedom again, with revived antiquated ideas of independence and sovereignty ringing loudly in the air once more. They were even thriving under their Constitution, we loathe and despise. We had to stop it and we did, through our usual tried and true methods, connections, and processes of deception, lying, corruption, and of course the stealing of the peoples votes.

How dare they expect of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Happiness, from now on in the Americas will only be given to those that comply with our wishes........of our global control....the world is our plantation, and the bottom and wasteful feeders will always be our plantation workers.

Biden is our man to do it in America(s)....hail to our evil god of this world.....


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Former Presidents Warn About Unelected ‘Invisible Government’ Running The United States With ‘No Allegiance To The People’

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HAFNovember 8, 2020

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” – George Santayana

Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836).

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They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”

As a result, “we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world — no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”

The sources for the above quotes (and more) are listed below. All of the quotes in this article have been verified as authentic and have associated links to the source materials. Also included below are statements made by David Rockefeller, Sr, former director of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and Federal Reserve Chairman’s Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke that appear to confirm some of the warnings.


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Warnings About The Invisible Government Running The U.S.
The warnings listed below, which appear in chronological order, began with our first president – George Washington. The last president to speak out was JFK, who was assassinated. Read what they and other political leaders have said about the invisible government.

George Washington wrote that the Illuminati want to separate the People from their Government

“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may… actually had a seperation [sic] of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.” – George Washington, 1st President of the United States (1789–1797), from a letter that Washington wrote on October 24, 1798, which can be found in the Library of Congress. For an analysis of Washington’s warning, see the article “Library of Congress: George Washington Warns of Illuminati

“I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.” —Thomas Jefferson, dent of the United States (1801–1809) and principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence (1776), in a letter written to John Taylor on May 28, 1816


“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.” – John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832) and U.S. Senator, from a speech given on May 27, 1836

Note that it appears that Washington’s and Jefferson’s concerns regarding bankers and separation of the people from the government was realized by 1836. This fact was confirmed in a letter written by FDR in 1933 (see below) in which he wrote that “a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” Jackson was the seventh president of the United States (1829-1937). Calhoun served as Jackson’s vice-president from 1829-1832.

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 1913 (Appendix B)

“A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men… [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913


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“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation… The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties, … and control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country.

“They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.” – New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, New York Times, March 26, 1922

“Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt…

“Mr. Chairman, when the Federal Reserve act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here… and thatthis country was to supply financial power to an international superstate — a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together toenslave the world for their own pleasure.” – Congressman Louis T. McFadden, from a speech delivered to the House of Representatives on June 10, 1932

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” — Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945), in a letter to Colonel Edward M House dated November 21, 1933, as quoted in F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, 1928-1945.

“Today the path to total dictatorship in the U.S. can be laid by strictly legal means… We have a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state… It operates secretly, silently, continuously to transform our Government… This ruthless power-seeking elite is a disease of our century… This group…is answerable neither to the President, the Congress, nor the courts. It is practically irremovable.” – Senator William Jenner, 1954 speech

“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” — J. Edgar Hoover, The Elks Magazine, 1956

“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings… Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe… no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent…

“For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence – on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” — John F Kennedy, 35th President of the United States, from a speech delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961 and known as the “Secret Society” speech (click here for full transcript and audio).


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“The Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” Congressman Larry P. McDonald, November 1975, from the introduction to a book titled The Rockefeller File.

“There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” – Daniel K. Inouye, US Senator from Hawaii, testimony at the Iran Contra Hearings, 1986


The Federal Reserve
A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves…” – John C. Calhoun

… owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.” – Theodore Roosevelt

“… one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Bank.“ – Louis T. McFadden

In an interview with Jim Lehrer that was aired on PBS’ News Hour on September 18, 2007 that you can watch on YouTube, formal Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said, essentially, that the Federal Reserve was above the law and that no agency of government can overrule their actions:

Jim Lehrer: “What is the proper relationship, what should be the proper relationship between a chairman of the Fed and a president of the United States?”

Alan Greenspan: “Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency, and that means, basically, that there is no other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take. So long as that is in place and there is no evidence that the administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing, then what the relationships are don’t frankly matter.”

The fact that the Fed is above the law was demonstrated by current Fed chairman, Ben Bernanke, during his appearance before Congress on March 4, 2009 (as shown in this video). Senator Bernie Sanders asked Bernanke about $2.2 trillion in American tax dollars that was lent out by Federal Reserve. Bernanke refused to provide an answer:

Senator Sanders: “Will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars? … Can you tell us who they are?”

Bernanke: “No”
David Rockefeller And The Council On Foreign Relations (CFR)
We have a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state…” – William Jenner

The Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world.” – Larry P. McDonald

In 1921 the stockholders of the Federal Reserve financed an organization called the “Council on Foreign Relations” (CFR). A full discussion on the CFR is beyond the scope of this article. Suffice it to say that the CFR likely plays a prominent role in the invisible government that we have been warned about.

The CFR is alleged to be the arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members. The CFR uses its influence to push their New World Order agenda on the American people.

David Rockefeller, Sr is the current patriarch of the Rockefeller family. He is the only surviving grandchild of oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller, founder of Standard Oil. Rockefeller began a lifelong association with the CFR when he joined as a director in 1949. In Rockefeller’s 2002 autobiography “Memoirs” he wrote:

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions.

“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

James Warburg, son of CFR [Council on Foreign Relations] founder Paul Warburg, delivered blunt testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950:

“We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest.”


Cognitive Dissonance
The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” — J. Edgar Hoover

Because of a deep rooted beliefs that the U.S. government is “for the people” and the protector of the free world, many will reject the notion of an evil shadow government. When our beliefs are challenged or when two beliefs are inconsistent, cognitive dissonance is created. It’s human nature to try to hold our beliefs in harmony with our world view and avoid disharmony (or dissonance).

For those of you who having difficulty believing the information presented in this article, I fully understand. For the first 57 years of my life, I would not have believed in the possibility that a shadow government could exist. Three years ago my world view changed.

While on vacation in Mount Shasta, I came across a book titled “Global Conspiracy” that seemed strangely out of place in a metaphysical book store. I had never heard of the author before – some guy named David Icke. I scanned through the book and frankly didn’t believe 99% of what I read. But, I saw one thing that caught my attention in that I knew that I could easily verify Icke’s assertion. I did my own research and turned out what Icke had stated was true. That led me down a rabbit hole and many, many hundreds of hours of independent research.

So, keep an open mind, do your own research, and use discernment. Beware that there is a ton of disinformation on the internet, much of which is intentionally placed to confuse the public. At a CFR meeting on geoengineering (see the article “Millions Spent to Confuse Public About Geoengineering“), M. Granger Morgan stated (it’s captured on video for you to see and hear for yourself):

First of all, of course, there is a lot of money getting spent to make sure that a very substantial portion of the public stays totally confused about this. And, I mean, it’s been really quite pernicious. But there’s been literally tens of millions of dollars spent on every little thing that comes along that might, you know, relate to some uncertainty.

By Ross Pittman, Guest writer


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This man Biden, and his evil Vice, the sleaze, they will always be considered grand frauds and empty vessels, and never be associated with the people of this great country. The people of this country deserve much more of a patriotic leader, aka Trump or someone like him/her that places the interests of this country first. And not the globe's crying interests that would love to subdue and make this country a 3rd world banana republic, subservient to the governance by the UN or it's hidden/ invisible string pullers...word/IMF/Central Bankers, Intelligence organizations, and NGOs, all essentially part of the Illuminati satanic cult.
 
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Is this the most industrialised cities are often democrat ? Surely Trump's call for more coal, more oil, more industry means more pollution?

Do you see the problem making industry a political issue? Elon Musk and Tesla, electric cars are taking off.
Batteries are a part solution but cobalt and nickle supplies a serious issue.

This is technological challenges that need the smartest brains and open societies to take the risks. Our future hangs on carbon capture and restructuring industry from ice machines to fuel cell/ liquid cell/ lithium cell batteries. ICE - internal combustion engine. Ford, GM etc in serious trouble if shift not managed well. How many jobs hang on this? It's not political, it's a technological revolution.

Imagine no drivers needed again. Driving is one of the most common jobs. What then? These are important shifts, like never seen before.

God bless you

In the most simplest way...
Scripturally ...

LOCAL -
•God; Land, Animals, Plants, Food, People, Wares, etc.
•Has been Gods Promotion repeatedly...
•And (in contest) Gods blessing to send one away and Gods punishment to send one away

It is Where one is Sent...as a blessing...which LOCAL needs are met.

Personally, I believe...ALL the needs and some desirable wants of All Americans are LOCALLY Within America;

The Lord God...and His Great Blessings...
Fertile Soil, Food, (sea and land) Plants, Water streams / lakes, Animals, Wares, ... Gold, Silver, Ores, Gems...
• Plenty to Keep All Americans busy Working and Enjoying prosperity and comfort...

Damned...if Progressivesm is called "social reform"... while Oppressing the LOCAL Blessings of God FROM society.

They WHO Oppress are Not The They with Solutions.

Theft from one doled to another is Not The Solution.

Hiding America's Gifts from God and running like a beggar to Foreign Nations is Not the Solution.

The Old worn out Tactic of Perpetuating Society Divide IS NOT the Solution.

The daunting City Crowding...IS a Proven Horrible, Unhealthy, Unnerving, Depressing haven for Society Demise.

Yet thousands of inhabital land remains uninhabited in The US.

The Revolving door returns to the OPPRESSER...who think his so called Progressive "Society" FIX is the Answer.

The Answer is NOT to increase the OPPRESSERS Power.

It's NOT Rocket Science.
Gods Blessings IS the Answer.
 

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In the most simplest way...
Scripturally ...

LOCAL -
•God; Land, Animals, Plants, Food, People, Wares, etc.
•Has been Gods Promotion repeatedly...
•And (in contest) Gods blessing to send one away and Gods punishment to send one away

It is Where one is Sent...as a blessing...which LOCAL needs are met.

Personally, I believe...ALL the needs and some desirable wants of All Americans are LOCALLY Within America;

The Lord God...and His Great Blessings...
Fertile Soil, Food, (sea and land) Plants, Water streams / lakes, Animals, Wares, ... Gold, Silver, Ores, Gems...
• Plenty to Keep All Americans busy Working and Enjoying prosperity and comfort...

Damned...if Progressivesm is called "social reform"... while Oppressing the LOCAL Blessings of God FROM society.

They WHO Oppress are Not The They with Solutions.

Theft from one doled to another is Not The Solution.

Hiding America's Gifts from God and running like a beggar to Foreign Nations is Not the Solution.

The Old worn out Tactic of Perpetuating Society Divide IS NOT the Solution.

The daunting City Crowding...IS a Proven Horrible, Unhealthy, Unnerving, Depressing haven for Society Demise.

Yet thousands of inhabital land remains uninhabited in The US.

The Revolving door returns to the OPPRESSER...who think his so called Progressive "Society" FIX is the Answer.

The Answer is NOT to increase the OPPRESSERS Power.

It's NOT Rocket Science.
Gods Blessings IS the Answer.

I am not sure how this puts things into a political setting.
We are a single world with different resources in different places.
No mobile phones, batteries etc. ie Lithium Nickle can be made without Nickle from the Congo.
Our international dependency which for decades has been oil from many different countries, is not a hinderance, but often a blessing where the western democracies can help economies grow and prosper for the benefit of all.

If free market economies have proved anything, free trade helps everyone, because as communities prosper so new markets and needs open up for everyone to sell into. It is why we need mutual dependency and not tariff driven conflict or competition which encourages inefficiency and uneconomic industrial processes to prevail. Forcing businesses through economic competition makes things improve which has spin offs for everyone. The problem with modern economies is these shifts happen quickly, 5-10years which is not long for people to adjust to, move, relocate etc. Politics has to catch up, playing to the generation of the 80's or earlier is not a long term strategy. Who will survive is those who get on the next technological revolution, probably on line working, driverless cars, community living. This is a total shift from centralised cities and mass commuting. How peoples rights, interests are defended or allowed to shift is for the politicians to work through, but it is not a settled time, and the war with infection, antibiotic resistant illnesses etc is changing our social frameworks completely.

We have seen the internet rise, shops decline, communication through social media sky rocket. What this means politically is unknown, as neither left or right can control it, or know it. Censorship, fake news, slander and defamatory statements will have to be regulated, and policed.
The idea a president can express their views live was weird but now kind of normal, except obviously nutcase as well. If an authority figure says something, conspiracy theory based which turns out to be a lie, are they a liar, untrustworthy, or just gullible? If they do this repeatedly, they become just a manipulator and fake news creator. When does someone cross that line? When they show over serious issues which should have real leadership they continue ignoring their reputation damage, because that was never the point, they do not care if its true, just it makes them look good by doing it, getting attention. But long term they are decimated, because it soon dawns was anything actually true that they said?

Trump is such a version of the greatest illusion eveeeer, a rich man with debts up to his ears. What happens when the debts are called in and the confidence of investors drains away? An illusion can only last so long, and then the chase and run begins. It never ends well, and the addiction to sell the dreams never goes away, because the individual believes their own delusion, I am the greatest........

God bless you
 
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Trump is such a version of the greatest illusion eveeeer, a rich man with debts up to his ears. What happens when the debts are called in and the confidence of investors drains away? An illusion can only last so long, and then the chase and run begins. It never ends well, and the addiction to sell the dreams never goes away, because the individual believes their own delusion, I am the greatest........
Now Exchange "TRUMP" for America.

We been in debt for a LONG time. Other countries (investors) are waiting to collect.
We got so bad even our military to defend us was in shambles.
Trump is trying to make America self sufficiant so we CAN pay off these INVESTORS and stay free.

That's what I have witnessed for the last 3.5 years.

Now the ones who oppose this, have their own investments in those other countries. And they will lose a lot if Trump wins.

HUGS
 
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It’s been interesting reading and watching reactions. One thing is an issue to me is how Christians react and respond. Right at this moment in time it’s not coming across too well. You had Trump supporters turning up at counting stations with guns , you have them interrupting mayors and shouting abuse, you have Trump playing golf on the day the announcement was made and acting like a child at times through his twitter feed.
Some on here have change there stance, so I do agree with @Seven of Nine with that one.
I am not seeing this from the inside, so my prospective has always been different. As this has all unfolded over the last week I was reminded of my own reaction when I discovered the lies, deceptions, unfaithfulness and wrong actions of my husband. At the time the Holy Spirit laid a question on my heart. ‘ my way or your way. It was a choice between responding as the world would, or to follow His lead.

Even if you don’t agree with the result, even if you are feeling negative about it all, it is an opportunity that may be missed if you ‘ react as the world reacts ‘.
Do you remember when the WWJD bracelets were the ‘ in thing ‘ well, What would Jesus do !?
Not sure that will speak to anyone here, but just as many people are listening and watching reactions through different media formats, there are many reading forum posts.
Just as an end note, I get it wrong so often and have missed opportunities to reflect the right approaches, I have learned the hard way - so I need to remind myself of the question ‘ my way or your way ‘ quite a lot !!
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You make a good point but Jesus probably wouldn't approve of Joe being president either.
 
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Whoops. NOT Authorized to copy.
Justice Alito gave permission to isolate ballots delivered after polling day.
This is not invalid ballots, it is what was agreed by the state regulations for the ballot.

Taking the number of ballots involved, if it is less than the votes putting Biden over Trump it makes no difference.
The problem with claiming fraud and stealing an election which is claimed as impossible by Republican Trump supporters is just a reason for insurrection and rebellion. It is a propoganda war to claim legitimate action that will follow when the claim is made the courts are biased.

It is also because the delusion that the vote win by Biden is impossible, not this is a fair election and the majority are fed up with this antagonism and cult like following of the great leader. The more the cult rails against reality, the more they prove they are a cult and rationality and fairness has left the building. Men of power become men of power because they get nutcase followers who will do anything to get a blessing from their leader. The emotional feeling is strong, it is what makes groups win in war and is essential in conflict one group against another, but recognise this is fruit of such idiology. And great powers fall apart when this kind of split is not resolved, while the people filled with hatred claim they are saving the power against the enemy over there, little seeing they are the cause of its fall. Ironic.

It is ironic also when christians condemn people to hell who preach love and service to Christ, unfortunately declaring their own lack of peace and love in their own hearts. We are called to love Jesus above anything else, and to be in the world and not of it. God bless you
 

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Insurrection and rebellion...
I guess you missed the last 9 months or so of protests I mean riots and looting and burning and murder..
That's not coming from the right... thats coming from the goats.

Love and Peace... don't forget Justice.. that's a big one too.
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Now Exchange "TRUMP" for America.

We been in debt for a LONG time. Other countries (investors) are waiting to collect.
We got so bad even our military to defend us was in shambles.
Trump is trying to make America self sufficiant so we CAN pay off these INVESTORS and stay free.

That's what I have witnessed for the last 3.5 years.

Now the ones who oppose this, have their own investments in those other countries. And they will lose a lot if Trump wins.

HUGS

There is a sad reality with our economic system of fractional reserve lending. It relies on debt and inflation to drive the economy.
And the debt mountain grows until it all unravels. Whether this needs to happen or how it unravels is unknown, because the money to a degree is invented by the system and unwinds over 10 years or so. The trouble is with 7 billion people in the world and integrated food distribution, we need the world economic system to work and continue. It is too big to fail. This system is global, and everyone is bought into it, there is no way out.

Many do not see why a run on the banks causes collapse, but it is innate within how things work.
We have survived 2008 by a world wide response. We are surviving Covid-19 by a world wide response.
Unfortunately we are all bought into this economic system. If you shake the system too much, you will create a dictatorship response or collapse.
I prefer working with system to further change and transformation, because in this there is real hope. It is hard to state we are living in a kind of paradise, but we are. My dad was born into poverty, and in his early 20's tapped into the post WW2 boom. Today my kids have been educated by the state and very successful, a true revolution in opportunity. I am fed from around the world, when my mother could only get things in season.

The world is very different than the one I was born into in 1960, and I will fight for its continued success, because it truly is a wonder, and continuing to develop. Our hope is we live long enough to have a balanced sensible view of each other with peace and support, so that is my aim, to bring the dream that has become a reality to those who just see doom and gloom and loss, not knowing what a blessing we are living in today.

God bless you
 
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There is a sad reality with our economic system of fractional reserve lending. It relies on debt and inflation to drive the economy.
And the debt mountain grows until it all unravels. Whether this needs to happen or how it unravels is unknown, because the money to a degree is invented by the system and unwinds over 10 years or so. The trouble is with 7 billion people in the world and integrated food distribution, we need the world economic system to work and continue. It is too big to fail. This system is global, and everyone is bought into it, there is no way out.

Many do not see why a run on the banks causes collapse, but it is innate within how things work.
We have survived 2008 by a world wide response. We are surviving Covid-19 by a world wide response.
Unfortunately we are all bought into this economic system. If you shake the system too much, you will create a dictatorship response or collapse.
I prefer working with system to further change and transformation, because in this there is real hope. It is hard to state we are living in a kind of paradise, but we are. My dad was born into poverty, and in his early 20's tapped into the post WW2 boom. Today my kids have been educated by the state and very successful, a true revolution in opportunity. I am fed from around the world, when my mother could only get things in season.

The world is very different than the one I was born into in 1960, and I will fight for its continued success, because it truly is a wonder, and continuing to develop. Our hope is we live long enough to have a balanced sensible view of each other with peace and support, so that is my aim, to bring the dream that has become a reality to those who just see doom and gloom and loss, not knowing what a blessing we are living in today.

God bless you
Changed a lot since I was born in 65.. I hear that.

Money is a funny thing. If you have confidence in it's worth, then it's worth something.
They used to have certain kinds of sticks and the King would have notches placed on them for different values.
Eventually the stick system evolved into paper. Now we have imaginary 0's and 1's on a computer to tell us how much worth something is.
And of course you always have the saying.. one's person trash is another person's treasure..
It is what we want it to be. And how much value we put into it.
When confidence in the dollar fails, we'll find another.. looks like those mysterious 0's and 1's will be the next contestant.

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I'll read yours if you watch mine.. :)

47 minutes..

It is a very informative clip that does summarize the facts pretty well.....I have found most of the info already...
I remarked how very odd that Trump was overwhelming in the lead on the evening of the Election Day......
The clip did not address however the constant real evil power that runs the US today, even from a broad perspective...this is the elephant in the room...

I agree with the presenter...will some exceptions.......

Many people are NOT accepting the evil programming of the MSM, including Fox

If our Father in Heaven wants to give justice to Trump and his supporters then he will surely win and continue for another 4 years...I then expect an assassination attempt on his life soon afterwards...
 
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