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Seven of Nine

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That's where the difficulty now lies, Seven of Nine, in our political discourse. If the truth and character doesn't matter concerning Trump, why should it matter concerning Biden? If Biden is to be condemned for immorality, then the immorality of Trump has to be condemned as well.

That's exactly right and it's been my point all along, but this obvious moral inconsistency is being flat-out ignored by Trump supporters. It's too late for these conservatives to start pretending the moral character of the President is important to them now that Biden has been elected.

For the last 5 years, these conservatives have repeatedly told us "we voted for a President, not a pastor!" and "Christians shouldn't judge Trump for his sins!" They've also perpetually insisted that God chooses and ordains the President, but they seemingly abandoned this conviction when Biden was elected and not Trump. Now it's "this is Satan's doing!" and "God will deliver the presidency to Trump!" Is God in control or not?
 

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That's exactly right and it's been my point all along, but this obvious moral inconsistency is being flat-out ignored by Trump supporters. It's too late for these conservatives to start pretending the moral character of the President is important to them now that Biden has been elected.

For the last 5 years, these conservatives have repeatedly told us "we voted for a President, not a pastor!" and "Christians shouldn't judge Trump for his sins!" They've also perpetually insisted that God chooses and ordains the President, but they seemingly abandoned this conviction when Biden was elected and not Trump. Now it's "this is Satan's doing!" and "God will deliver the presidency to Trump!" Is God in control or not?
A select few have said such things. Stop being the victim of your own imagination sister. Most of us simply want our Father's Will to be done above all else.
And if His Will is for a Biden presidency then I give God Praise because His Will is done.
 
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If Trump was the dictator the left claims he is, he would of declared himself King somewhere over the last four years. Knowing he could only serve one more term or lose it. He would have already done it.
Now comes Kamala, because Joe is going to go take his nap and she will run the show with Bernies help.
So I guess if the ball falls in Bidens court we'll have to see if there will be a change in our Constitution regarding presidential elections.
Like Xi did in China. They used to have elections until he decided they didn't need them anymore.
It will be an interesting show for sure.
And I've got lots of popcorn..
:)

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A select few have said such things. Stop being the victim of your own imagination sister. Most of us simply want our Father's Will to be done above all else.
And if His Will is for a Biden presidency then I give God Praise because His Will is done.

Actually I’ve heard quite a few conservatives say that online and IRL. If you don’t believe me, that’s fine. Your disbelief doesn’t change its truth.
 

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Actually I’ve heard quite a few conservatives say that online and IRL. If you don’t believe me, that’s fine. Your disbelief doesn’t change its truth.
Well that isn't here in the forum. What the outside does is not my concern.
 

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I feel sick scared and wanting to die and go to be with Jesus. (Not suicidal just wanting to die,.. like now.)

NOPE! We're created to LIVE, so I'm moving forward in every venue available. And if it means that some give up, I'll shake my head as I walk past, -- but I will walk past! :)

Bobby Jo
 
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I didn't know that's why I asked. Thanks.
No offense, sister, but I think the fact you haven't noticed my many posts stating how that I believe both sides are cult/corrupt ...reinforces my point ...that there is a blindness when it comes to those who so vehemently follow and defend Trump.

I have said all along ...the American people were given two evil choices (altho I strongly believe presidents are selected by the elite cult, not voted in).
 
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It’s been interesting reading and watching reactions. One thing is an issue to me is how Christians react and respond. Right at this moment in time it’s not coming across too well. You had Trump supporters turning up at counting stations with guns , you have them interrupting mayors and shouting abuse, you have Trump playing golf on the day the announcement was made and acting like a child at times through his twitter feed.
Some on here have change there stance, so I do agree with @Seven of Nine with that one.
I am not seeing this from the inside, so my prospective has always been different. As this has all unfolded over the last week I was reminded of my own reaction when I discovered the lies, deceptions, unfaithfulness and wrong actions of my husband. At the time the Holy Spirit laid a question on my heart. ‘ my way or your way. It was a choice between responding as the world would, or to follow His lead.

Even if you don’t agree with the result, even if you are feeling negative about it all, it is an opportunity that may be missed if you ‘ react as the world reacts ‘.
Do you remember when the WWJD bracelets were the ‘ in thing ‘ well, What would Jesus do !?
Not sure that will speak to anyone here, but just as many people are listening and watching reactions through different media formats, there are many reading forum posts.
Just as an end note, I get it wrong so often and have missed opportunities to reflect the right approaches, I have learned the hard way - so I need to remind myself of the question ‘ my way or your way ‘ quite a lot !!
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Have you seen the photos and video??

Nonetheless, how about an apology and restitution for his part in trafficking and sexually torturing many many girls and young women (MK programmed sex slaves) at his casinos?

What and Who are you talking about?
 

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It’s been interesting reading and watching reactions. One thing is an issue to me is how Christians react and respond. Right at this moment in time it’s not coming across too well. You had Trump supporters turning up at counting stations with guns , you have them interrupting mayors and shouting abuse, you have Trump playing golf on the day the announcement was made and acting like a child at times through his twitter feed.
Some on here have change there stance...

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A quick response...
Not illegal in some states to carry guns.
Shouting is not illegal.
Playing Golf is not illegal.
Tweeting is not illegal.
Suspect of cheating is cause for concern.
Cheating on Voting is illegal.
Counting invalid votes is illegal.
An Official Report of Valid Votes has not been made.

Switching stance is not illegal.
Switching stance and making personal stabs of unfounded illegalities is lowdown.

Everyone has opinions.
Not illegal to voice them.

Non-Christians have a mind-set...
Christians are a door-mat and should accept all negativities without question.

There are A LOT of unanswered questions.
There are A LOT of known people with a reputation of Underhandedness involved with this Election.

I have ZERO concern with Trump supporters reactions of which NONE have been identified as illigal.

Taken
 
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@Taken
I didn’t say anything about those things being illegal. I merely conveyed something that was laid on my heart.
You can read it, ignore it or find fault with it- that is your choice.
If you honestly believe that I was conveying that Christians should be doormats, then you haven’t really heard what I actually conveyed.
I did write a longer post, responding to your ‘ list ‘ , but I don’t have to justify something that was laid on my heart to share- take it up with the Holy Spirit x
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@Taken
I didn’t say anything about those things being illegal. I merely conveyed something that was laid on my heart.
You can read it, ignore it or find fault with it- that is your choice.
If you honestly believe that I was conveying that Christians should be doormats, then you haven’t really heard what I actually conveyed.
I did write a longer post, responding to your ‘ list ‘ , but I don’t have to justify something that was laid on my heart to share- take it up with the Holy Spirit x
Rita

My point was;
What Trump supporters do, implying cause for concern, has no concern where improprieties are no issue.

Non- Christians was a general statement. There was no indication of pointing to you.

True, you are not from the US. Your laws are different. Your Laws do not apparently allow carrying guns in public. So understandably you Seeing or Hearing "that" IN the US may have raised a question in your heart.
Just to gently remind you...The US is not the U.K. For a reason settled long ago.

God Bless,
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Hosea 8:4

They made kings, but not through me. They set up princes, but I knew it not. With their silver and gold they made idols for their own destruction.
Nothing, really nothing in the world happens without the will of God.
Be it war or peace, everything comes from God.

He changes times and points in time, sets kings down and sets kings up.
Daniel 2:21


All the inhabitants of the earth are respected as nothing, and according to his will he does with the host of heaven and with the inhabitants of the earth; and there is no one who can resist his hand and say to him What do you do?
Daniel 4:35

I make the light and I create darkness, I make peace and I create evil - it is I, the LORD, who do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7


So I ask you to consider the context.
Everything that happens is God's will, everything is a plan.
 
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True, you are not from the US. Your laws are different. Your Laws do not apparently allow carrying guns in public. So understandably you Seeing or Hearing "that" IN the US may have raised a question in your heart.
Just to gently remind you...The US is not the U.K. For a reason settled long ago.

God Bless,
Taken
You don’t have to ‘ gently ‘ remind me of that because it didn’t come into the equation.
My post, and what was laid on my heart was ‘ My way or your way ‘ it was a challenge to consider the motives of choices made and where they originate from. There is a difference between responding emotionally to what is going on and responding spiritually to what is going on.
When I say ‘ laid on my heart ‘ I meant in the way of a conviction to share. ( it was laid on my heart some days ago, and I have reflected on it, this morning I decided it was right to act on it )
Not from a UKer to a USAer, but from one Christian to other Christians, not as an order, but perhaps to give thought to and reflect on.
So quit giving me a hard time from following a spiritual prompt ....
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Nothing, really nothing in the world happens without the will of God.
Be it war or peace, everything comes from God.

He changes times and points in time, sets kings down and sets kings up.
Daniel 2:21


All the inhabitants of the earth are respected as nothing, and according to his will he does with the host of heaven and with the inhabitants of the earth; and there is no one who can resist his hand and say to him What do you do?
Daniel 4:35

I make the light and I create darkness, I make peace and I create evil - it is I, the LORD, who do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7


So I ask you to consider the context.
Everything that happens is God's will, everything is a plan.

everything in this world is the will of the Most High? so every sin i commit is not me, its the will of the Most High and i am not responsible? you know what free will is right?

the idea that all the leaders are placed in power by the Most High is the oldest trick in the book and your falling for it hook line and sinker. in the middle ages once a year the common people were allowed to bow in front of the king so he could lay hands on them and heal, why? because according to these kings they were the Lords anointed, most the healing these people needed were from undernourishment because the kings and nobles starved them to death half the time.

most of these leaders get their positions of power through lies, deceit, manipulation, and and often times killing, many in the past would even kill their own family members to get these seats of power.

sure the Lord handpicks people, Moses, David, Jesus were all anointed by the Most High. but if you think someone like donald trump, a man who uses the "F" word in front of a crowd full of women and children is on the same level as Moses, you need some help.
 
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