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I'm sorry...I read a LOT of stuff...
I remember the what but not the where. One of those curse things. I enjoy lots of "highbrow" things.
Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?
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I'm sorry...I read a LOT of stuff...
I remember the what but not the where. One of those curse things. I enjoy lots of "highbrow" things.
Prayer Warrior
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Wow! Everyone needs to hear this! It is POWERFUL!
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Ziggy
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And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
I have a lot of questions about John the Baptist.
Who sent him to Baptize?
John 1:33: And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
I don't want to derail the thread.. just a question I've had forever. Maybe another thread.
Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
So if Jesus comes and baptizes with the Holy Ghost, and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost before Jesus was born...
Jer 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
In the image of God created he Him/Them.
So ultimately God is the one who is doing the forming. And a child is formed from conception to birth.
Like a product. First you have to conceive it before you can make it.
But without the idea (the conception) nothing could be produced.
Did God only just know Jeremiah before he was born and sanctifies and ordained to be a prophet?
Or does he know each and every conception he is forming?
deep.
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EXACTLY HOW CAN I DISTORT THE NEWS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE TRUMP IS COMMITTING A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY and that BIDEN or his SON AREN'T ASSOCIATED WITH ANY WRONG DOING?
WHOEVER IS READING THIS MUST UNDERSTAND THAT BIDEN has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S IN THE NEWS, and that TRUMP is the ONLY CRIMINALLY LIABLE INDIVIDUAL IN POLITICS.
AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS WORKING FOR SATAN, -- except don't you DARE accuse me or my Protected Politicians of LYING, or DECEIVING, or RECEIVING from our lord and master, satan.
WHOEVER IS READING THIS MUST UNDERSTAND THAT BIDEN has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S IN THE NEWS, and that TRUMP is the ONLY CRIMINALLY LIABLE INDIVIDUAL IN POLITICS.
AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS WORKING FOR SATAN, -- except don't you DARE accuse me or my Protected Politicians of LYING, or DECEIVING, or RECEIVING from our lord and master, satan.
There, -- I think I answered your question! :)
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Luke 1 (KJV)
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⁵ There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
⁶ And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
⁷ And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.
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¹¹ And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.
¹² And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.
¹³ But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
¹⁴ And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
¹⁵ For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
¹⁶ And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
¹⁷ And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
¹⁸ And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.
¹⁹ And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
²⁰ And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
²¹ And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple.
²² And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless.
²³ And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.
²⁴ And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
²⁵ Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.
Because He was in Mary's Womb and His Spirit was already in Him and He was discerned by Elizabeth's baby and because it was prophesied that John would come in the Spirit of Elijah then it makes sense that the Holy Spirit came upon Elizabeth.
It's all in this article...a good read!
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But Jesus didn't baptize anyone with the Holy Spirit. He sent the Holy Spirit in His place and baptism of the Holy Spirit didn't happen until the day of Pentecost.
In Acts 1 it clearly shows that Jesus did not baptise with the Holy Spirit while here on earth.
Acts 1 (KJV)
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¹ The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
² Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
³ To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
⁴ And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
⁵ For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
⁶ When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
⁷ And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
⁸ But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
⁹ And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
¹⁰ And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
¹¹ Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
@Ziggy
So if Jesus comes and baptizes with the Holy Ghost, and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost before Jesus was born...
Acts 2 is when the Holy Spirit comes and baptizes them.
Acts 2 (KJV)
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¹ And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
² And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
³ And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
⁴ And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
⁵ And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
⁶ Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
⁷ And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
⁸ And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
⁹ Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
¹⁰ Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
¹¹ Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
¹² And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
¹³ Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
¹⁴ But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
¹⁵ For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
¹⁶ But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
¹⁷ And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
¹⁸ And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
So if Jesus comes and baptizes with the Holy Ghost, and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost before Jesus was born...
Acts 2 is when the Holy Spirit comes and baptizes them.
Acts 2 (KJV)
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¹ And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
² And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
³ And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
⁴ And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
⁵ And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
⁶ Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
⁷ And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
⁸ And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
⁹ Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
¹⁰ Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
¹¹ Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
¹² And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
¹³ Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
¹⁴ But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
¹⁵ For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
¹⁶ But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
¹⁷ And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
¹⁸ And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Oh about John the Baptist...the angel told Zacharias that he would be filled with the Holy Spirit from his mothers womb...
he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
Ziggy
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I guess I was trying to find the origen of when life begins and somehow got sidetracked with John leaping in the womb.
And sometimes I have a bad habit of thinking out loud when I'm typing so I may pull a verse here or there to get to the end result.
I type as I think and sometimes my thoughts travel in 50 directions.
I will try to stay focused. But I can't gaurantee it.
I would like see a thread on John the Baptist and his ministry and purpose.
I guess I'll do that and look forward to comments.
Thank You Heart2Soul
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What really bothers me is that Dems don't care "when life begins". They DEMAND their right to kill it. One person here actually stated "Scripture treats the unborn as a the cost of a few sheckles .. nowhere near a child". They really don't care about babies!
Ziggy
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I understand kcnalp. But you can't control what people care or don't care about.
What you care about is what matters.
You can only control you.
And thankfully we live in a country where we can vote.
And possibly make a difference.
But you will never be able to convince a zebra he doesn't have spots no matter how many stripes you prove him with.
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Life began the day God created man. And it never stops. At conception is my belief. The zygote cannot form through cell duplication unless there is life in those cells.
The problem with carnal thinking is they want to measure life on a human scale...life is in the spirit....and can exist in the smallest of molecular structure or the largest of molecular structure. What is seen was made by that which is not seen...think about it.
And the baby butchers can't prove that those "fetus's" don't feel horrible pain and terror while being killed. They don't even care. And it proves to me that God is totally just in burning humans in Hell fire "forever and ever".
Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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Ziggy
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So I think we agree..
In post 485 I came to this conclusion:
Jer 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
In the image of God created he Him/Them.
So ultimately God is the one who is doing the forming. And a child is formed from conception to birth.
Like a product. First you have to conceive it before you can make it.
But without the idea (the conception) nothing could be produced.
Did God only just know Jeremiah before he was born and sanctified and ordained to be a prophet?
Or does he know each and every conception he is forming?
Life.. Alpha and Omega
In him was life; and the life was the light of men
And God said, Let there be light.
So new question..
Before God said let there be light, and God saw the light that it was good..
what was before?
Okay you need to know that there are 3 earth ages...just like there are 3 heavens.
And which light are you referring to? He created light twice.
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