Hillary Clinton on "Why young people are leaving church?"

[teamventure]

Example would be, if you are an evangelist, publicly voicing/posting a negative opinion about BLM, it isn't going to help your outreach. If you are publicly voicing/posting a negative opinion about Democrat voters, it isn't going to help your outreach.

This is more about finding ways to make people run to God, rather then run away.

The gospel is offensive to the world. Scripture states that.
If you're not offending anyone it could be because of a watered down and compromised message.

 

[ChristisGod]

If you think you know what TRUTH is, then why did you divert the discussion of why "Christianity Today" publishes anti-Christian perspectives by pointing to their "Statement of Faith" as though ONE equals THE OTHER?!?

The only person who contrives such deceit is NOT speaking TRUTH, but instead -- a thinly veiled LIE. And it came from YOU! :)
Bobby Jo

ad hominem attacks speak volumes about you and your inability to discuss issues in a cogent manner.

 

[Josho]

Maybe preachers should stay out of politics to begin with.
I see a problem with your other point. The gospel is not about trying to make it look attractive to the world that is the beginning of error in approach because it's a slipery slope to not preaching about sin for example.

The gospel is offensive to the world. Scripture states that.
If you're not offending anyone it could be because of a watered down and compromised message.

Let me re-word that "This is more about asking God and learning Jesus's ways on how to make people run to God, rather then run away, asking Him to lead me to the right place to go, asking Him the right person or people to preach to, to put the right words into my mouth to speak. It's about following the lead of the Holy Spirit, if more would do so, then there would be more people turning to Jesus"

It has to be by power of the Holy Spirit and not power of the flesh. That is what an evangelist should do.

The Gospel may be offensive, but The Gospel is also about Salvation, and many getting saved. You know God wants people in Heaven.

And Yes maybe preachers should stay out of politics.

 

[teamventure]

Sounds good Josho

 

[Bobby Jo]

... your inability to discuss issues in a cogent manner.

The magazine "Christianity Today" DOES NOT PRESENT A CHRISTIAN perspective. And anyone who defends their publication is ill-informed, despite their AD HOMINEM distractions.

It's too bad there are so many "Christians" who need to be brought from the darkness to the light:

Jhn 3:19 And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.​

Bobby Jo

 

[ChristisGod]

The magazine "Christianity Today" DOES NOT PRESENT A CHRISTIAN perspective. And anyone who defends their publication is ill-informed.

Hope this helps !!!
Bobby Jo

What I quoted was a survey, not from them but the BARNA group.

Get your facts straight and try reading with "comprehension" with a cogent response for a change.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

What I quoted was a survey, not from them but the BARNA group.

Get your facts straight and try reading with "comprehension" with a cogent response for a change.

hope this helps !!!

You want to debate Scripture bring it on any topic of your choice. Pick your poison !

 

[Bobby Jo]

You want to debate Scripture bring it on any topic of your choice. Pick your poison !

I've waited a LONG TIME for someone who will INTELLIGENTLY discuss Scripture. -- Most PRETEND to be interested, but they either run away, or they're so locked into their false doctrines they won't discuss, they simply argue. So let's see how long you last:

OK., -- here's what the commentators present:

Dan. 2

1. Gold, Babylon
2. Silver, Medo/Persia
3. Bronze, Greece
4.a. Iron, Rome
4.b. Clay, Revived Rome​

However, verse 45 says: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE

So which is it, 4a/4b or FIVE? And if you disagree with the FIVE premise, then please provide an alternate explanation for GOD 4,3,5,2,1 Intelligent Design sequence. And PLEASE don't use the lie that it's "random". -- GOD is not "random" or "distracted", or "confused". HE's INTELLIGENT, and provides an Intelligent Design!

Bobby Jo

 

[ChristisGod]

I've waited a LONG TIME for someone who will INTELLIGENTLY discuss Scripture. -- Most PRETEND to be interested, but they either run away, or they're so locked into their false doctrines they won't discuss, they simply argue. So let's see how long you last:

OK., -- here's what the commentators present:

Dan. 2

1. Gold, Babylon
2. Silver, Medo/Persia
3. Bronze, Greece
4.a. Iron, Rome
4.b. Clay, Revived Rome​

However, verse 45 says: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE

So which is it, 4a/4b or FIVE? And if you disagree with the FIVE premise, then please provide an alternate explanation for GOD 4,3,5,2,1 Intelligent Design sequence. And PLEASE don't use the lie that it's "random". -- GOD is not "random" or "distracted", or "confused". HE's INTELLIGENT, and provides an Intelligent Design!

Bobby Jo

What on earth does intelligent design(do you know what that means?) have to do with prophecy and kingdoms ?

Define intelligent design.

Who is behind "intelligent design" ?

 

[Bobby Jo]

What on earth does intelligent design(do you know what that means?) have to do with prophecy and kingdoms ?

Define intelligent design.

See? You had NO INTENT on living up to your offer because YOU ARE A DECEIVER like your father. -- Exactly as I've asserted all along.

So go your way and receive your "reward". And take some ice with you ...
Bobby Jo

 

[ChristisGod]

See? You had NO INTENT on living up to your offer because YOU ARE A DECEIVER like your father. -- Exactly as I've asserted all along.

So go your way and receive your "reward". And take some ice with you ...
Bobby Jo

You need to define terms, definitions etc......

I knew you had no intention of an honest dialogue. You don't even know how debates actually work.

Its like saying you believe in Jesus, well who is Jesus ?

The JW jesus, the mormon jesus, the scientology jesus ?

which Jesus are we talking about and who is He ?

Your bluff was called and you failed miserably.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Seven of Nine]

ad hominem attacks speak volumes about you and your inability to discuss issues in a cogent manner.

Sadly, this kind of ill-behavior has become the MO of many people who support Trump, including Christians. It seems as if these Christians have forgotten about "love your neighbor as yourself," "treat others the way you want to be treated," "love your enemies," "tame your tongue," "don't let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouth," and hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions and factions are all works of the flesh. And lastly, their rebellious unchristian behavior completely destroys their reputation and their personal Christian witness.

 

[amigo de christo]

You need to define terms, definitions etc......

I knew you had no intention of an honest dialogue. You don't even know how debates actually work.

Its like saying you believe in Jesus, well who is Jesus ?

The JW jesus, the mormon jesus, the scientology jesus ?

which Jesus are we talking about and who is He ?

Your bluff was called and you failed miserably.

hope this helps !!!

Many follow a PB jesus and not the B JESUS .
And that is the PROBLEM .
A phone book jesus cannot save , only the Biblical one can .
Open a phone book in my town and see how many names are Jose Rodriguez . But are the the one i am looking for .
Exactly . We got JW jesus , we got prosperity gosple jesus , we got nar jesus , we got emergent jesus
we got catholic jesus , we got and the list goes on and on . But the ONLY JESUS i KNOW that saves , IS the biblcal one .
AND if we following a jesus that contradicts and omits scripture , well it AINT JESUS we know or follow . These are heavily delusional times
we are in .

 

[amigo de christo]

Sing to the Glorious KING .

 

[historyb]

Back to the original post, in a way maybe Hillary Clinton is is asking for more compassion from some churches.

Of course I don't agree with everything she says though.

No she wants poisoned preached. You don't understand because your not an American and you appear, sadly to be drinking the liberal poison. Beware my friend that path leads to death

 

[Bobby Jo]

You need to define terms, definitions etc......

Here's a term you're familiar with: DISHONEST!


And one more for Good Luck: IGNORE! :)
Bobby Jo

 

[amigo de christo]

Let all who name the name of JESUS depart from inquity and put those hands up and praise the glorious LORD .
Time to rejoice in the LORD .

 

[Seven of Nine]

Back to the original post, in a way maybe Hillary Clinton is is asking for more compassion from some churches.

Of course I don't agree with everything she says though.

Because she did have a point there...

Churches need to learn to reach out to others with more compassion.

I agree with Hillary Clinton about the judgmental Christians who are about as compassionate as a rock toward other people. I'm talking about the Christians who ruthlessly vilifies other people who don't agree with them politically and doesn't support Trump. I'm talking about the Christians who resort to vicious slander, bogus accusations, and condemning another person to hell because they don't like the person's politics. Matthew 12:34; Matthew 15:19; Luke 6:45; Galatians 5:19-21; 1 John 3:15, and 1 John 4:20 come to my mind whenever I encounter these Christians.

Love your neighbor as yourself.

Love your enemies and pray for them.

Do good to those who persecute you.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

Do not repay evil for evil but overcome evil with good.

Don't let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouth.

Let your light so shine before men that they will see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

 

[amigo de christo]

I think seven of nines meant liberals .
Let me tell you all what is going on in my own home town .
I work my own business . SO i can show up at any customers house .
And the conservatives are terrified to even talk about politics . THE DEMS are the bullies , seven o nines got this one all backwards .
I seen fear in some of those eyes when i asked them who are they voting for . They dont want their houses targeted
and burned down by blm and others . I have to tell them i am an independent and then say something encouraging
to them to even get them to say who . ANd guess what , they all been conservatives .
ASK a liberal who they voting for , AND THEY SHOUT loudly BIDEN , and YOU BETTER TOO or your a RACIST . Seven of nines
has this one all backwards .

 

[amigo de christo]

This also tells me a lot . Trump has way more quiet ones that support him then the news media even knows .
They just dont want to be targeted . And there are many like that .