Was logging on to YouTube and this was in the menu. I don't know who Paul Washer is, but I found the video to be excellent. The last line is something of a rebuke.
Any comments?
Any comments?
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Test everything. Some people/ sites/ stated that he was a false teacher for teaching repenting, but that's an error in the accuser.
However , does he teach lordship salvation like these others ? Just a heads up in case it is a correct warning - I'm not aiming at following up as this does not interest me further ....
Beware of Evangelist Paul Washer - Jesus-is-Savior.com
[Search domain jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/paul_washer_exposed.htm] Beware of Evangelist Paul Washer
Paul Washer is a dangerous religious teacher, who has corrupted the gospel of Jesus Christ (2nd Corinthians 11:3-4). The truth is that Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Pat Robertson, Kirk Cameron and countless other false prophets like them (who teach the damnable heresy of Lordship Salvation) are getting angry that independent ...
However , does he teach lordship salvation like these others ? Just a heads up in case it is a correct warning - I'm not aiming at following up as this does not interest me further ....
Beware of Evangelist Paul Washer - Jesus-is-Savior.com
[Search domain jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/paul_washer_exposed.htm] Beware of Evangelist Paul Washer
Paul Washer is a dangerous religious teacher, who has corrupted the gospel of Jesus Christ (2nd Corinthians 11:3-4). The truth is that Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Pat Robertson, Kirk Cameron and countless other false prophets like them (who teach the damnable heresy of Lordship Salvation) are getting angry that independent ...
It is a more narrow path than publicly known !
excerpts from an ex preacher who investigated , online :
"I went to the link and listened to Washer. I found him to be a very appealing and charismatic speaker. But he confirmed my opinion from previous videos that he preaches a false repentance message and very obviously preaches Lordship Salvation. Here is the link: Paul Washer Video
"However, he nailed Billy Graham (not by name though) with his analysis of a false “come down an aisle method” and with psychological manipulation; I agreed with that. ....but as I listened further it became abundantly clear that he agreed with Graham’s false repentance message."
excerpts from an ex preacher who investigated , online :
"I went to the link and listened to Washer. I found him to be a very appealing and charismatic speaker. But he confirmed my opinion from previous videos that he preaches a false repentance message and very obviously preaches Lordship Salvation. Here is the link: Paul Washer Video
"However, he nailed Billy Graham (not by name though) with his analysis of a false “come down an aisle method” and with psychological manipulation; I agreed with that. ....but as I listened further it became abundantly clear that he agreed with Graham’s false repentance message."
LoL. No time to catch up on your posts just yet, but I did read this far and would advise you to be careful about taking that particular website's word for anything without questioning it. He's hypercritical of everyone, and operates in something of a spiritual tunnel vision on occasions.
Not saying he might not have something interesting to say - I'll look at it later - but in the same vain you were advising me to test everything, I would suggest you test everything you read from him as well.
God bless, and I'll get back to it later.
Yes, There are so many following calvaty chapel or other known false schools , posting multitudinously daily , (i.e. often),
and there's not time to check them all out... they are "wearing out the saints" as written somewhere in Scripture....
basically if someone hears a message, from any source, before accepting it as true and from God, it must be proven true in line with all Scripture.
Following Jesus requires rigorous whole hearted devotion to Jesus in the Father, seeking truth and wisdom and knowledge directly from God, not from men... trusting God, not men... daily, as all Scripture shows....
I watched the video in the OP and I agree with it completely. Ray Comfort, John MacArthur, and Kirk Cameron are also good teachers of the Bible. (I think Pat Robertson may be a false prophet. No one can be wrong all of the time.) I think we should beware of jesus-is-savior.com.
I wouldn't want to say anything for sure about him; but I'm not sure he's found it himself yet. He said a few things that concern me. Can anyone tell anyone else how to find the strait gate and narrow way? Jesus indicated we have to find it for ourselves.
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
You could tell people they will find the strait gate if they obey the Golden Rule. They still need to do it for themselves. Many may try, but few will succeed.
Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
My own belief is that the gate into the kingdom is smaller than the eye of a needle. Draw two lines that intersect to form a cross. The gate lies at the intersection. How big is the point of the intersection of the two lines?
Well, I think we each may walk the path in slightly different ways based on our own consciences, but the answer is still the same for everyone: Walk the straight and narrow path.
Also, I realize that 4:37 - 5:00 may be concerning, especially when thinking about all those who judge others based merely on appearances ... but his comments are bookcased by 3:56 - 4:22 and 5:07 - 5:10, meaning the focus of the teaching is that if you have a supernatural encounter with God and His Spirit enters into you, there should and will be evidence of it in your life.
Evidence.
Proof by testing.
Demonstration of life.
Abiding in the vine- the results of abiding shown in NT.
Abiding in the vine- the lack of results in the usa.
Jesus' Description / Instruction / Requirement of disciple: be holy. No exception.
(holy = set apart (from the world/ system/ evil) )
No greed. No adultery. No covetousness. No idolatry. Self-less-ness. Dead to the world.
Alive in Christ. Alive to God. Abiding in union with God. In Union With Jesus.
Walking the walk of a new creation in Christ Jesus.
Not walking in the flesh. Not walking with false destructive deadly to souls messages.
No part with the doctrines of demons. No acceptance of leaven of religious leaders. (no acceptance of hypocrisy).
Like a little child, joyously freely willingly walking in the life and light which is Christ Jesus.
Like a little child, looking heavens-direction to the Father Creator in Heaven, eyes WIDE OPEN , heart trusting Him Totally.
The website you and I are currently posting on, supports and promotes and welcomes false gospel messages.
The one you call "that particular website" is wrong about some things, yes.
Did Jesus say to accept any message, anywhere, ever, without questioning it ?
Did Jesus say to accept the false gospel associated with calvary chapel without questioning it ? (a common chapel heard about)
Did Jesus say to accept the false teachings and false gospel of billy g. (who got in bed with rome by 1948) without questioning it ?
No to all -
question everything - men are corrupt. Only God is able to open a person to the truth, to give understanding of truth to anyone, even the desire for God, is a gift from God.
There a thousands of "other voices".... we are supposed to be not listening to them, not following them, ever.
More simply: Jesus clearly says: My (Jesus') sheep know My Voice, and follow Me (Jesus). They won't follow another voice.
It's not open to all, or to truth. The deceptions of the enemy are protected and posted as if blessings from God too often.
I agreed with most of what he said.
I'd like to hear his interpretation of:
Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.
I'm afraid you are following a path that leads to death.
There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.
Proverbs 14:12 ESV
There are many paths we can follow but only one leads to life.
mailmandan
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Brakelite
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That entire chapter of Matthew wherein those words narrow way are found, needs to be taken into account to give Jesus' words context.
Jesus said several times to those who were missing their way, that He never knew them. I suspect strongly that the reason was they never came to know Him. A complete misapprehension of the character of God is so very common in Christendom. So many are in fact worshipping someone who doesn't exist. Matthew 7 is about knowing the love of The Father and expressing that love to others through our actions. That's the narrow way... And as Jesus said, happy are ye if ye hear my My words and do them.
Neither should we limit God I think to particular forms of ritual/church/ formula in boxing God into saving His beloved creation and redeeming man and making Himself known. The Bible itself tells us that God can and does speak through dreams, visions, and even nature, and if those who may never have read scripture or heard the word of God preached or taught, live and love according to their conscience, having compassion on others and in their hearts leaning towards godliness, there is all eternity remaining for them to learn theology and the whys and wherefores of how they came to be in the kingdom.
It is true that the scriptures have the final say over all ecclesiastical councils, Popes, pastors and even televangelists. But let us not limit a God who wants all men saved and who is doing all He can to bring all men to repentance... He is not a God who is deliberately making it as difficult as possible to be saved by using fine print and meticulous forms and ceremonies that one must adhere to.
There have been literally millions throughout history who have had no access to scripture. Do we condemn them to eternal damnation because they were born in the wrong place and the wrong time? Or do we believe God is just, and exercises compassion and mercy through doing good and reaching out to lost souls, using missionaries with Bibles when available, but whatever other means He has at His disposal otherwise.
God calls us to be witnesses to His character, which is good. Always. He is not calling us to be lawyers looking for theological loop holes in order to exclude people from heaven. The scriptures are the final authority on the character of God, but are not the only means by which that character is revealed.
KJV Psalms 19
God's Creation and Word Show His Glory
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Now I know someone will come and say I'm teaching salvation by works. Read again what I have been saying above. Everything we do and become is laid upon a foundation of knowing who God is and what He is like. Thus begins a relationship by which we become known to one another.
KJV Matthew 7
Be Doers of the Word
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Those above were saying Lord, Lord, yet didn't know Him. And the proof of their ignorance was their trust in the religious works they were doing in the name of God who didn't exist.
Jesus said several times to those who were missing their way, that He never knew them. I suspect strongly that the reason was they never came to know Him. A complete misapprehension of the character of God is so very common in Christendom. So many are in fact worshipping someone who doesn't exist. Matthew 7 is about knowing the love of The Father and expressing that love to others through our actions. That's the narrow way... And as Jesus said, happy are ye if ye hear my My words and do them.
Neither should we limit God I think to particular forms of ritual/church/ formula in boxing God into saving His beloved creation and redeeming man and making Himself known. The Bible itself tells us that God can and does speak through dreams, visions, and even nature, and if those who may never have read scripture or heard the word of God preached or taught, live and love according to their conscience, having compassion on others and in their hearts leaning towards godliness, there is all eternity remaining for them to learn theology and the whys and wherefores of how they came to be in the kingdom.
It is true that the scriptures have the final say over all ecclesiastical councils, Popes, pastors and even televangelists. But let us not limit a God who wants all men saved and who is doing all He can to bring all men to repentance... He is not a God who is deliberately making it as difficult as possible to be saved by using fine print and meticulous forms and ceremonies that one must adhere to.
There have been literally millions throughout history who have had no access to scripture. Do we condemn them to eternal damnation because they were born in the wrong place and the wrong time? Or do we believe God is just, and exercises compassion and mercy through doing good and reaching out to lost souls, using missionaries with Bibles when available, but whatever other means He has at His disposal otherwise.
God calls us to be witnesses to His character, which is good. Always. He is not calling us to be lawyers looking for theological loop holes in order to exclude people from heaven. The scriptures are the final authority on the character of God, but are not the only means by which that character is revealed.
KJV Psalms 19
God's Creation and Word Show His Glory
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Now I know someone will come and say I'm teaching salvation by works. Read again what I have been saying above. Everything we do and become is laid upon a foundation of knowing who God is and what He is like. Thus begins a relationship by which we become known to one another.
KJV Matthew 7
Be Doers of the Word
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Those above were saying Lord, Lord, yet didn't know Him. And the proof of their ignorance was their trust in the religious works they were doing in the name of God who didn't exist.
Brakelite
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With the above said, there is no excuse for misunderstanding who God is when we have the scriptures so readily available. And while certain translations may have nuanced differences concerning specifics, I think I'm general terms God had preserved them sufficiently to reveal Himself and give the reader reason to reach out to Him rather than hide as if He is someone to fear.
Jim B
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This is the narrow path.. the Candle Light gate between Mary and Jesus.
I have proved it on July 11, 2020.
You haven't proved anything by a fanciful interpretation of the shroud.
Why do you consider Lordship Salvation a heresy?
If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:9 ESV
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