USA riots

[bukka]

To simply keep repeating the same empty accusations, that's the same tactic used by groups such as BLM that relies more on indoctrination and emotional hype then on reality.

You appear to have the notion that none of the protesters participated in rioting. And that's probably the hardest sell of all right now!

Moral consistency.

BLM claims to value black lives, but promotes the taking of those lives. BLM claims to want justice while turning a blind eye to the injustice that is in front of it's face.

The golden rule. Do you value the golden rule? Can you join me in declaring that BLM, while sharing the same rights of peaceful protest that we all have, even so, is hypocritical, disengenuous, funded by those who want to use it to attach US society, supports murder of babies, and advocates gender confusion and sexual deviancy?

Shall we walk together in truth?

These assertions have nothing to do with the truth, marks? I have the moral obligation to reject what is not the truth. Consider again what I've posted. It's all a matter of logic.

I'm only being logical, marks. I'm taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[marks]

I'm only being logical, marks. I'm taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. Do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

So then that's a "NO" to restating my position?

 

[bukka]

One big strawman. I believe every person who committed any unlawful action while supposedly supporting BLM should be charged. Why would I want lawful protesters charged?

I agree. Thanks for saying this Renniks. You've arrived at the crux of the matter.

 

[bukka]

So then that's a "NO" to restating my position?

Why should I restate your position, marks? It's too verbose. I'm taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[marks]

Why should I restate your position, marks? It's too verbose. I'm taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

OK. You want to argue against a fiction, that's your business.

You make a lot of erroneous statements. You misrepresent those who discuss with you. This thread is becoming filled with fallacies.




You're thinking that BLM people didn't participate in the bad behavior? Didn't approve of it's benefit? Is that really and truly what you think? It's hard to imagine but there it is. You've not actually answered, but then you haven't answered quite a bit.

 

[marks]

I don't think you'd like a family member murdered by a police officer and then hear other people complaining about you and your family thinking of themselves as victims.

Millions of black people have been taught to think of themselves as victims, even though they have not been victimized.

And now they are all getting angry because the nightly news tells them too. Over 1 death, but they ignore all the others.

I'll need to confirm the statistic, but something like in a year 60,000 acts of violent crime of white people against black. That's horrific! But then in the same time, 400,000 acts of violent crime of black people against black people.

Sounds like we need to widen the dialog a bit, wouldn't you say?

 

[marks]

Do you resent the people you dislike having civil rights?

Not at all! Why do you ask?

Something I DO dislike is when people make a mockery out of our political system for their own gain.

That's another thing about BLM. Follow the money, and quickly see the true agenda.

 

[Enoch111]

Enoch111, the right to assembly to seek redress for grievances is written in the constitution.

We all knows this, and that is a non-issue at this point.

What you need to come to grips is this reality as recorded in the Chicago City Council after the riots (and a direct result of BLM and Antifa):

1. “People are just f*****g lawless right now.”
   
2. “No offense but f*** you.”
   
3. “I don’t have a pharmacy left.”
   
4. “Hundreds” of sites looted in a day.
   
5. “My ward is a s**t show.”
   
6. “I’ve been crying all day.”
   
7. “I’ve got over 10 videos of people shooting other people.”
   
8. “I haven’t seen s**t like this before.”
   
9. “People aren’t going to be able to get food.”
   
10. “A war zone.”
    
11. “Far worse than it was in 1968.”
12. “There aren’t enough cops.”
13. Looters “commandeering buses.”
14. 911 “not even answering the phones anymore.”
15. “I am simply not comfortable telling my churches, those people, to be intermediaries in a riot that is citywide..”
16. Arsons were “planned in advance.”
17. “Young girls” looting.

‘My Ward Is A S*** Show’: Here Are The 17 Most Explosive Quotes From Chicago Leaders’ Leaked Meltdown About Violence, Looting

 

[Enoch111]

Millions of black people have been taught to think of themselves as victims, even though they have not been victimized.

And Michelle Obama was caught promoting these same tired myths recently in a speech which she gave. She is simply adding fuel to the fire. Some of these people should have been locked up for sedition a long time ago.

 

[bukka]

OK. You want to argue against a fiction, that's your business.

You make a lot of erroneous statements. You misrepresent those who discuss with you. This thread is becoming filled with fallacies.

You're thinking that BLM people didn't participate in the bad behavior? Didn't approve of it's benefit? Is that really and truly what you think? It's hard to imagine but there it is. You've not actually answered, but then you haven't answered quite a bit.

Millions of black people have been taught to think of themselves as victims, even though they have not been victimized.

And now they are all getting angry because the nightly news tells them too. Over 1 death, but they ignore all the others.

I'll need to confirm the statistic, but something like in a year 60,000 acts of violent crime of white people against black. That's horrific! But then in the same time, 400,000 acts of violent crime of black people against black people.

Sounds like we need to widen the dialog a bit, wouldn't you say?

Not at all! Why do you ask?

Something I DO dislike is when people make a mockery out of our political system for their own gain.

That's another thing about BLM. Follow the money, and quickly see the true agenda.

You've made a lot of accusations and false statements, marks. Aren't you getting a little tired of it?

I'm only taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[bukka]

We all knows this, and that is a non-issue at this point.

What you need to come to grips is this reality as recorded in the Chicago City Council after the riots (and a direct result of BLM and Antifa):

1. “People are just f*****g lawless right now.”
2. “No offense but f*** you.”
3. “I don’t have a pharmacy left.”
4. “Hundreds” of sites looted in a day.
5. “My ward is a s**t show.”
6. “I’ve been crying all day.”
7. “I’ve got over 10 videos of people shooting other people.”
8. “I haven’t seen s**t like this before.”
9. “People aren’t going to be able to get food.”
10. “A war zone.”
11. “Far worse than it was in 1968.”
12. “There aren’t enough cops.”
13. Looters “commandeering buses.”
14. 911 “not even answering the phones anymore.”
15. “I am simply not comfortable telling my churches, those people, to be intermediaries in a riot that is citywide..”
16. Arsons were “planned in advance.”
17. “Young girls” looting.

‘My Ward Is A S*** Show’: Here Are The 17 Most Explosive Quotes From Chicago Leaders’ Leaked Meltdown About Violence, Looting

Enoch111, Taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion, you're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[bukka]

And Michelle Obama was caught promoting these same tired myths recently in a speech which she gave. She is simply adding fuel to the fire. Some of these people should have been locked up for sedition a long time ago.

So, I understand you Enoch111 to be against freedom of speech as well as freedom of assembly? It seems to be so.

Enoch111, Taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion, you're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[marks]

You've made a lot of accusations and false statements, marks. Aren't you getting a little tired of it?

I'm only taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

OK. You want to argue against a fiction, that's your business.

You make a lot of erroneous statements. You misrepresent those who discuss with you. This thread is becoming filled with fallacies.

You're thinking that BLM people didn't participate in the bad behavior? Didn't approve of it's benefit? Is that really and truly what you think? It's hard to imagine but there it is. You've not actually answered, but then you haven't answered quite a bit.

 

[bukka]

OK. You want to argue against a fiction, that's your business.

You make a lot of erroneous statements. You misrepresent those who discuss with you. This thread is becoming filled with fallacies.

You're thinking that BLM people didn't participate in the bad behavior? Didn't approve of it's benefit? Is that really and truly what you think? It's hard to imagine but there it is. You've not actually answered, but then you haven't answered quite a bit.

You've made a lot of accusations and false statements, marks. Aren't you getting a little tired of it?

Again, I'm only taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[marks]

You've made a lot of accusations and false statements, marks. Aren't you getting a little tired of it?

Again, I'm only taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you? I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

If you just keep repeating your points without responding to what's been posted, I would think it would get tiresome.


To simply keep repeating the same empty accusations, that's the same tactic used by groups such as BLM that relies more on indoctrination and emotional hype then on reality.

You appear to have the notion that none of the protesters participated in rioting. And that's probably the hardest sell of all right now!

Moral consistency.

BLM claims to value black lives, but promotes the taking of those lives. BLM claims to want justice while turning a blind eye to the injustice that is in front of it's face.

The golden rule. Do you value the golden rule? Can you join me in declaring that BLM, while sharing the same rights of peaceful protest that we all have, even so, is hypocritical, disengenuous, funded by those who want to use it to attach US society, supports murder of babies, and advocates gender confusion and sexual deviancy?

Shall we walk together in truth?

 

[marks]

@bukka

The golden rule. Do you value the golden rule? Can you join me in declaring that BLM, while sharing the same rights of peaceful protest that we all have, even so, is hypocritical, disengenuous, funded by those who want to use it to attach US society, supports murder of babies, and advocates gender confusion and sexual deviancy?

Shall we walk together in truth?

 

[bukka]

If you just keep repeating your points without responding to what's been posted, I would think it would get tiresome.


To simply keep repeating the same empty accusations, that's the same tactic used by groups such as BLM that relies more on indoctrination and emotional hype then on reality.

You appear to have the notion that none of the protesters participated in rioting. And that's probably the hardest sell of all right now!

Moral consistency.

BLM claims to value black lives, but promotes the taking of those lives. BLM claims to want justice while turning a blind eye to the injustice that is in front of it's face.

The golden rule. Do you value the golden rule? Can you join me in declaring that BLM, while sharing the same rights of peaceful protest that we all have, even so, is hypocritical, disengenuous, funded by those who want to use it to attach US society, supports murder of babies, and advocates gender confusion and sexual deviancy?

Shall we walk together in truth?

@bukka

The golden rule. Do you value the golden rule? Can you join me in declaring that BLM, while sharing the same rights of peaceful protest that we all have, even so, is hypocritical, disengenuous, funded by those who want to use it to attach US society, supports murder of babies, and advocates gender confusion and sexual deviancy?

Shall we walk together in truth?

I cannot abandon simple logic, marks. Again, I'm only taking what you're saying to it's logical conclusion. You're still defaming lawful citizens equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This has not changed. I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters. So I ask, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you sure about this? This is another application of the logic you're using. I repeat, I'm being very logical here. I continue to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

I have always asserted that BLM was not a specifically Christian organization. I do not believe that civil rights be based upon religious belief; and, in state religions of any type. I don't think that churches should be dependent upon governmental tax dollars with the ministers being appointed or confirmed to their office by the government. I think that is something that is set up for anti-christ.

Again, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[Renniks]

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that.

Lol, what does this mean?
And aren't you making a racist statement here?

 

[marks]

"Others shared images including concealer being attached with electronic tags, and a shelf of hair dye where the only one in a theft-prevention case was the one with a black model on the front of the box.

But one user - who identified themselves as a former loss prevention officer - said: "This is victimhood gone too far.

"They keep track of high theft items so if something is behind glass it means it got stolen a lot in the past."

Another added: "Stores lock up products that are most stolen. Its not a race thing."

However, one user pointed out: "They are frequently stolen because people can't afford them, right? Why can't people afford them? They live in disadvantaged communities."

Fury as Afro hair products LOCKED UP on store shelves & white products aren’t

Thieves steal. Those who aren't thieves and don't have the money do without.

 

[marks]

I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters.

And . . . again . . . I'll say . . . I don't accuse lawful protesters, but not all protesters were lawful.

You've never said you thought otherwise.

I agree that lawful protest is protected and should be.

Can you agree that not all protesters are lawful, and that those protesters who break the law should be help accountable?