Homosexual Church Dream

[Justadude]

did i say it was? did you approve of Bill Clintion ? please quote me for what i said not what you want me to have said.. this is my quote curious how would you compare hellary lying and deceitful/ lets put them in the scales of justice and weigh them out. but yes i do like his policies

Notice the question mark at the end of what I posted: "So sexual immorality is acceptable, even thought it's wrong, as long as the person is doing a good job?"

So do you find Trump's sexual immorality acceptable or not?

 

[Ezra]

So do you find Trump's sexual immorality acceptable or not?

what did my post say? let me ask how did you feel about bill clintion? aww i see you have agnostic beside your faith.. conversation ended

 

[Justadude]

what did my post say?

It said something about the Clintons, then that Trump wasn't your first choice, then that you think he's done a good job, then something about Obama, then "what he done is wrong", then "he got caught and they didn't". None of that actually answered the question I asked.

let me ask how did you feel about bill clintion?

About his affair with Monica L.? I thought it was awful and shameful.

aww i see you have agnostic beside your faith.. conversation ended

So you never interact with non-Christians? Why? Afraid you'll catch something?

 

[Hidden In Him]

So do you find Trump's sexual immorality acceptable or not?

Name the Christian members here - including Trump supporters - who endorse sexual immorality, and tag them so they can come to this thread and confirm it.

If you do not answer me, I will create a thread for it, so we can help you out a little here.

 

[Mayflower]

Besides immoral and sinful by God's standards, the HIV rate and rate of sexual transmitted diseases among the LGBT community are also a good indication that homosexuality is not a good practice.

 

[Justadude]

Name the Christian members here - including Trump supporters - who endorse sexual immorality, and tag them so they can come to this thread and confirm it.

I'm not totally sure who that would be (which is why I asked). But I will say that if they're Trump supporters, they pretty much have to be okay with his sexual immorality.

If you do not answer me, I will create a thread for it, so we can help you out a little here.

Okay.

 

[Justadude]

Besides immoral and sinful by God's standards, the HIV rate and rate of sexual transmitted diseases among the LGBT community are also a good indication that homosexuality is not a good practice.

By that same reasoning, the existence of STI's among heterosexuals is "a good indication that heterosexuality is not a good practice".

 

[Mayflower]

By that same reasoning, the existence of STI's among heterosexuals is "a good indication that heterosexuality is not a good practice".

There is just a higher rate among the homosexual community. Sex after marriage would actually solve a lot of that, but many other factors play into homosexuality. Id like to look up the info before saying this for sure, but I believe I have read before that cheating and divorce are also higher in the LGBT community, as well as mental health issues. I have nonchristian friends who are homosexual, so I do read around to find the other reasons why this is an unhealthy practice.

 

[Mayflower]

By the way, I have not read much of this thread, so am unsure if I am derailing or not. I just see face book posts on supporting homosexuality and against homosexuality and try to find common ground both sides can agree in. Overall, homosexuality is unnatural and unsafe. "Attraction" is lust like any other thing. But when you get into actual sex, this is when I believe it is not only sinful, but unhealthy in multiple areas.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I'm not totally sure who that would be (which is why I asked). But I will say that if they're Trump supporters, they pretty much have to be okay with his sexual immorality.

You just doubled down on your accusation. Tell me, does it bother your conscience that this community would welcome you in, only to have you turn around and call them "hypocrites" and for something they in no way shape or form condone?

 

[Justadude]

There is just a higher rate among the homosexual community. Sex after marriage would actually solve a lot of that, but many other factors play into homosexuality. Id like to look up the info before saying this for sure, but I believe I have read before that cheating and divorce are also higher in the LGBT community, as well as mental health issues. I have nonchristian friends who are homosexual, so I do read around to find the other reasons why this is an unhealthy practice.

So the best remedy for that would be for gay couples to marry and stay faithful. And yes, mental health issues are more common in LGBTQs, but that's because they're told from so many different entities that there's something wrong with them. Anyone who hears that sort of thing from an early age is bound to have issues.

By the way, I have not read much of this thread, so am unsure if I am derailing or not. I just see face book posts on supporting homosexuality and against homosexuality and try to find common ground both sides can agree in. Overall, homosexuality is unnatural and unsafe. "Attraction" is lust like any other thing. But when you get into actual sex, this is when I believe it is not only sinful, but unhealthy in multiple areas.

If you want common ground, then my suggestion is that you follow a simple rule. If you believe it's wrong to be gay, then don't be gay. But don't expect anyone else to abide by your beliefs.

 

[Justadude]

You just doubled down on your accusation.

It's pretty self-evident, isn't it? Trump's sexual immorality (according to Christian morals) is a matter of public record, so any Christian that supports him while at the same time chastising others for "sexual immorality" is clearly hypocritical.

Tell me, does it bother your conscience that this community would welcome you in, only to have you turn around and call them "hypocrites" and for something they in no way shape or form condone?

What do you mean they don't condone? Are there no Trump supporters here?

 

[Mayflower]

This is from the CDC. Gay men are also more likely to get anal cancer, and this is by one sex partner.

Sexually Transmitted Diseases Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC

But the biggest consequence is it is sexual sin. But that is my say in it...

 

[Hidden In Him]

It's pretty self-evident, isn't it? Trump's sexual immorality (according to Christian morals) is a matter of public record, so any Christian that supports him while at the same time chastising others for "sexual immorality" is clearly hypocritical.

And this assumes that they condone the sin he commits. It is a false assumption, and given your response, it appears it actually doesn't bother you to label the people of this community "hypocrites."

So be it. You are showing your true colors.

 

[Justadude]

And this assumes that they condone the sin he commits. It is a false assumption, and given your response, it appears it actually doesn't bother you to label the people of this community "hypocrites."

So be it. You are showing your true colors.

Can you show where I specifically said the people of this community are hypocrites?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

so your saying they can never be saved..you just put a limit on the power of God sure glad i dont read your bible ..so which of the 3 sins will send to hell adultery drunkenness or homosexual? lets add the 4th one being lost never committed adultery never got drunk never been a homosexual . which of these can be saved

I never said that they can't be saved, but when one is possessed it does make such much harder, I know people like that, the likely hood that you will get anywhere with such a one is very slim, because they are possessed in fact and that's clear, some may convert to religion but not to Christ Jesus in Fact as their are many of them within the Church. they are not born again in fact.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I'm curious....with all the talk here about "sexual immorality", how many of you are Trump supporters? How many of you excused his "grab 'em by the ****"? Or him bragging about hitting on women ("I moved on her like a ****") when his third wife was home with their newborn son? Or hanging out with porn stars, writing them checks, and apparently having affairs with them? Or appearing in soft-core porn videos? Or hanging out with sexual predators at parties where cheerleaders danced for them....while he was married?

Do you understand how insanely hypocritical many of you look when you go on and on about the "sexual immorality" of gays, while at the same time you actively support someone like Trump? Do you realize people tend to notice that sort of blatant hypocrisy?

Grow up ! even JFK was getting about like a mongrel dog, not to mention Bill Clinton was the same type of mongrel Dog.
Hey in Australia we had PM Bob Hawk the same a dirty filthy mongrel dog running about like so, with a wife and kids mind. we had the PM before him M Fraser who was the same, he got caught out in the nick at a motel. and I could go on. hey even the UK W Churchill was a poofter and so was FDR they had big open sex party's. and the media never said boo.
I was talking to a mate about such, because he was making a great big deal about Clinton story, I said grow up you moron Australian and UK has been history of Political PM's sexual antics never came into the Medias attention, as such was out of bounds and that's clearly the case.
When it comes to Political party people they are the biggest bunch of filthy grubs going and the media are at them their party's as well, in the 60's 70's and 80's it was full on free for all. I have heard many story's from people who were their, it's still going on now but much more hidden from view.
Trump ? hey if your good looking and wealthy like him, women are all over you like fly's.
Look at that ugly dog golfer T Woods and all the women that came on to him hey, if you are in the spotlight like such women will flock to you.
Not to mention when a woman wants a man, you just try and push them away and if you say p off, it's not worth it or then the commotion will start.

Don't be surprised if the Leader of any Party is a A Hole because it takes one to become such believe me. No Angle is going to get to the top believe me.
Look at Obama he is a full on poofter his wife is clearly a man she has much broader shoulders than him, not to mention his whole history before becoming President is taboo what a freak show! the media is clearly a whore and the majority idolise it. Hitler could of entered and became the President ! the people did not have a clue who Obama was, because the media never said boo ! but with Trump they have tried every trick in the book to bastardise him full on, they are like hyenas and you know why it because Trump is not a Socialist, but if you are a Socialist the media will look after you just the way that the German Media did with Hitler, no German Media bagged Hitler when he became leader, he totally controlled the media and as such don't bag a Socialist Leaders for fear of your life, that's what bastards they always are.

The Media nowadays is totally corrupt, it would make even Hitler and his minister for propaganda total proud that they would give them a medal.

 

[Confused-by-Christianity]

Besides immoral and sinful by God's standards, the HIV rate and rate of sexual transmitted diseases among the LGBT community are also a good indication that homosexuality is not a good practice.

Do you mean to suggest that it was the homosexual practice itself that caused the higher rate of STD's in the gay community?

The reason for my question - I'm speculating here:
Speculation:
It sounds like you're saying "...there are higher rates of mental illness and STD's amongst homosexuals. Therefore, homosexuality itself caused the higher rates of STD's and mental illness."

If so, this is an error in thinking.

You may notice higher rates of STD's & Mental illness amongst homosexuals.
One might wish to find out why and brainstorm possible causes.

These are your speculations.

To be fair and truthful though - you should provide good reason for upgrading any of your speculations to calling it an "indication".

Otherwise you end up with statements like this:
Every time I wear white, I notice it's sunny outside, therefore, my white clothes are making it sunny.

 

[GISMYS_7]

Sick minded sexual perversion is a demon inspired abomination!!

 

[Giuliano]

Do you mean to suggest that it was the homosexual practice itself that caused the higher rate of STD's in the gay community?

The reason for my question - I'm speculating here:
Speculation:
It sounds like you're saying "...there are higher rates of mental illness and STD's amongst homosexuals. Therefore, homosexuality itself caused the higher rates of STD's and mental illness."

If so, this is an error in thinking.

You may notice higher rates of STD's & Mental illness amongst homosexuals.
One might wish to find out why and brainstorm possible causes.
To be fair and truthful though - you should provide good reason for upgrading your speculation to "indication".
Otherwise you end up with statements like this:
Every time I wear white, I notice it's sunny outside, therefore, my white clothes are making it sunny.

Simlarly, about half the STD's in the US are found in people aged 15 - 24. I don't think their age gave them their STD's.