A Sane Rant: So what gives with this so-called invisible Virus war?

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I want everyone to understand this - Abortion Clinics and Liquor Stores remain open as essential but Christ is now outlawed everywhere. Oh I know you can say we have virtual service but it is not real Church
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I want everyone to understand this - Abortion Clinics and Liquor Stores remain open as essential but Christ is now outlawed everywhere. Oh I know you can say we have virtual service but it is not real Church
Abortions are sometimes medically necessary. In my state there are no liquor stores (liquor is sold in grocery stores).

And Christ is not outlawed. Don't be overly dramatic and absurd. It doesn't help.
 

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So, then, as written throughout all Scripture, what is there to know about mankind/ the motive of society and goals thereof?

(From Scripture, mankind is not Christlike at all)
 

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What DOES JESUS save people out of ? A 'good' place??? NO! A VERY EVIL PLACE !
 

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I just want to bring up an important subject that is being ignored and most probably deliberately overlooked by the Medical Task Force of the White House. It is called Farr's Law.

Every year we have the common flu, we have had a few pandemics in the last 20 years and all most probably man-made, and including the HIV in the 80s and the Ebola outbreak in the 90s. They all follow or model the Farr's law or principle to a Tee - including this COVID-19 Virus. Anyway, government or medical overlords 'over' this Virus war take credit themselves for 'flattening' the so-called curve of infection because of their actions and policies. Poppycock, it is all a fake and we are so caught up or mesmerized by seeing and hearing them preach to us from their pulpit of Orwellian truth.

No enforced policies of a 6ft/2m distancing, lock-downs etc will not produce a lowered flattened curve. Farr's Law have been proven to be true since the 1840s, when it was first devised as a model, by the British epidemiologist and physician. It applies to all epidemics or pandemics before his time, his time, today and tomorrow. This law essentially says that from the initial outbreak of a pandemic, it infection spread path among the population begins a new bell curve that in usually and always steep and not as a flatten curve ever, as the these medical 'experts' suggest. It is as a bell curve. And further, this Law says that victims with very weakened immune systems will be attacked more severely and first. Then it spreads to the more robust hosts and eventually these hosts cause it to die off for the season. The robustness of their immune systems kills the pathogen from inside their body and thus arrests its spread to others from themselves. The seasonal weather also played a major role in its sudden drop. Warmer weather, even moist warm weather kills the pathogen quickly. This is what we see with the common seasonal flu and this COVID-19 shall become as the common flu - seasonal in nature and follow this similar bell curve. It will begin again in the late Fall and die off by the end of May (Northern Hemisphere example). No vaccine can be developed that will completely kill it off from the the planet as we have experienced with the common flu.

So why are these medical overlords saying they are afraid this COVID-19 Virus will come back later this year. They know it will, so why the charade and them spreading lies by their obvious deception?

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So why are these medical overlords saying they are afraid this COVID-19 Virus will come back later this year. They know it will, so why the charade and them spreading lies by their obvious deception?
Rhetorical question ?
I think everyone who knows Scripture agrees: Love of money is the reason ..... (i.e. the root of all evil)

And further, this Law says that victims with very weakened immune systems will be attacked more severely and first.
We all learned this in school.
Simple: those who are weaker, get sicker, and firster. Few exceptions.
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The robustness of their immune systems kills the pathogen from inside their body and thus arrests its spread to others from themselves.
i.e. normal immunity, (even God knew about this, as HE DESIGNED IMMUNITY! ) (and HE is NOT BOUND BY IT - He can still send disease when He Pleases, as He did on the Egyptians)
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No vaccine can be developed that will completely kill it off from the the planet as we have experienced with the common flu.
No vaccine is ever expected to work as "they say", and there's a long history of vaccine failure. (since 1900-1912? or before then? ) After vaccine failure, came vaccine failure cover-up (so they could sell more vaccines) ....
 
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So why are these medical overlords saying they are afraid this COVID-19 Virus will come back later this year. They know it will, so why the charade and them spreading lies by their obvious deception?

Blessings

APAK


Agree!

The same way that Gates "prophesied" five years ago that it would come.
I think they 'know something' in advance ...LOL
It will come back because they have planned ahead for it to come back.

The thing that annoys me is they think the public is stupid or something...(which most are I guess, and believe all their guff )
It's not like God didn't already prepare us for this, and what is yet to come.

.........H
 

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Agree!

The same way that Gates "prophesied" five years ago that it would come.
I think they 'know something' in advance ...LOL
It will come back because they have planned ahead for it to come back.

The thing that annoys me is they think the public is stupid or something...(which most are I guess, and believe all their guff )
It's not like God didn't already prepare us for this, and what is yet to come.

.........H
My sentiments as well Helen....I hope these medical 'experts' are never give the power to actually make the laws for the people under the guise of a medical emergency...
 
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Off topic. I'm not advocating following Swedens example in everything.
I just caught this on the news.

Sweden faces stricter quarantine as PM admits measures were 'not good enough' | Daily Mail Online

Sweden is considering imposing tighter restrictions on citizens after being one of the few European countries to not enforce a full lockdown.

Stefan Lofven, Sweden's prime minister, said today that after taking a 'flexible' approach to restricting movements within its borders, the country's coronavirus measures were 'not good enough'.

Lofven has faced criticism over Sweden's decision to not close bars, cafes and restaurants and merely advise residents to follow social distancing guidelines.

Sweden has also been slammed for not preparing for the pandemic by stockpiling emergency drugs and ventilators.
 
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I just caught this on the news.

Sweden faces stricter quarantine as PM admits measures were 'not good enough' | Daily Mail Online

Sweden is considering imposing tighter restrictions on citizens after being one of the few European countries to not enforce a full lockdown.

Stefan Lofven, Sweden's prime minister, said today that after taking a 'flexible' approach to restricting movements within its borders, the country's coronavirus measures were 'not good enough'.

Lofven has faced criticism over Sweden's decision to not close bars, cafes and restaurants and merely advise residents to follow social distancing guidelines.

Sweden has also been slammed for not preparing for the pandemic by stockpiling emergency drugs and ventilators.
That report seems a little bit confusing to me, did you see the graph they showed- it actually stated that the deaths had declined, and so had the cases, and yet the actually reports gives the impression that they were considering further restrictions, which conveys things must be worse .......... surely if things had declined they would have presumed they were doing things right.
One of my sons friends is in Sweden, he chats most days to her- she has relayed that the leader is concerned about getting votes in the next election, so much of what he does is governed by that, he wants to keep the people on his side.
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That report seems a little bit confusing to me, did you see the graph they showed- it actually stated that the deaths had declined, and so had the cases, and yet the actually reports gives the impression that they were considering further restrictions, which conveys things must be worse .......... surely if things had declined they would have presumed they were doing things right.
That is confusing, and I wish the reporters would have dug deeper on the story. I have no idea why the number of deaths would go down so quickly. It doesn't look right to me. It doesn't look like the expected curve used in the number of diagnosed cases:

031120_tsjl_coronavirus-containment_inline1_680_desktop.png

I can think of one explanation but of course I don't know if it's right. Maybe they were lax about testing people, resorting to testing only when someone was gravely ill. If they were doing that, maybe the people were so sick, the treatment they got wasn't enough to save them.

Then if they started testing people sooner for smaller things like a cough or fever, they started catching cases faster, and treatment was able to save more lives. Hey, it's the Daily Mail, too. Maybe their numbers aren't that accurate? I found another chart at Wikipedia:

Date
# of cases
# of deaths

2020-03-30
4,028(+8.9%) 146(+33%)

2020-03-31
4,435(+10%) 180(+23%)

2020-04-01
4,947(+12%) 239(+33%)

2020-04-02

5,466(+10%) 282(+18%)

2020-04-03
6,131(+12%) 358(+27%)

2020-04-04
6,443(+5.1%) 373(+4.2%)

2020-04-05
6,830(+6.0%) 401(+7.5%)

2020-04-06
7,206(+5.5%) 477(+19%)

2020-04-07
7,693(+6.8%) 591(+24%)

2020-04-08
8,419(+9.4%) 687(+16%)

2020-04-09
9,141(+8.6%) 793(+15%)

2020-04-10
9,685(+5.9%) 870(+9.7%)

2020-04-11
10,151(+4.8%) 887(+1.9%)

2020-04-12
10,484(+3.3%) 899(+1.4%)


Those figures show a steady rise with the percentage of rise slowing down.

One of my sons friends is in Sweden, he chats most days to her- she has relayed that the leader is concerned about getting votes in the next election, so much of what he does is governed by that, he wants to keep the people on his side.
Rita
Makes sense to me. Their leader wouldn't be saying they need to do more unless the problem was getting worse or he feared it could get a lot worse. I think he is being very political about it. At first, he thought imposing restrictions wouldn't be the popular thing to do so he didn't. Now he's afraid not imposing restrictions could result in a catastrophe which would be really unpopular.
 

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That report seems a little bit confusing to me, did you see the graph they showed- it actually stated that the deaths had declined, and so had the cases, and yet the actually reports gives the impression that they were considering further restrictions, which conveys things must be worse .......... surely if things had declined they would have presumed they were doing things right.
One of my sons friends is in Sweden, he chats most days to her- she has relayed that the leader is concerned about getting votes in the next election, so much of what he does is governed by that, he wants to keep the people on his side.
Rita
Rita ..It most probably is driven by politics....
 
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My sentiments as well Helen....I hope these medical 'experts' are never give the power to actually make the laws for the people under the guise of a medical emergency...
Already, as pharmakeia described in Revelation , They have been making laws for about a hundred years or so...
"deceived the whole world" ... 'whole world' includes politicians, and pretty much everyone in the system that is required to go along....
 
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That is confusing, and I wish the reporters would have dug deeper on the story. I have no idea why the number of deaths would go down so quickly. It doesn't look right to me. It doesn't look like the expected curve used in the number of diagnosed cases:

031120_tsjl_coronavirus-containment_inline1_680_desktop.png

I can think of one explanation but of course I don't know if it's right. Maybe they were lax about testing people, resorting to testing only when someone was gravely ill. If they were doing that, maybe the people were so sick, the treatment they got wasn't enough to save them.

Then if they started testing people sooner for smaller things like a cough or fever, they started catching cases faster, and treatment was able to save more lives. Hey, it's the Daily Mail, too. Maybe their numbers aren't that accurate? I found another chart at Wikipedia:

Date
# of cases
# of deaths

2020-03-30
4,028(+8.9%) 146(+33%)

2020-03-31
4,435(+10%) 180(+23%)

2020-04-01
4,947(+12%) 239(+33%)

2020-04-02

5,466(+10%) 282(+18%)

2020-04-03
6,131(+12%) 358(+27%)

2020-04-04
6,443(+5.1%) 373(+4.2%)

2020-04-05
6,830(+6.0%) 401(+7.5%)

2020-04-06
7,206(+5.5%) 477(+19%)

2020-04-07
7,693(+6.8%) 591(+24%)

2020-04-08
8,419(+9.4%) 687(+16%)

2020-04-09
9,141(+8.6%) 793(+15%)

2020-04-10
9,685(+5.9%) 870(+9.7%)

2020-04-11
10,151(+4.8%) 887(+1.9%)

2020-04-12
10,484(+3.3%) 899(+1.4%)


Those figures show a steady rise with the percentage of rise slowing down.

Makes sense to me. Their leader wouldn't be saying they need to do more unless the problem was getting worse or he feared it could get a lot worse. I think he is being very political about it. At first, he thought imposing restrictions wouldn't be the popular thing to do so he didn't. Now he's afraid not imposing restrictions could result in a catastrophe which would be really unpopular.

I would not place to much credence in the 'flattened' curve hype, even hoax curve. Realistically it is nearly always the bell curve that is true, whether one tries to restrain the spread or not; there are too many contaminating variables added into the mix when a so-called medical expert explains it only as their preventive polices as we see and read in the media. They know there are more factors that they cannot control or get credit for, ever. Not shaking hands or 'distancing' and washing things down does not deter this virus spread in the larger picture. It just delays the spread like a decaying dam that is kept from creating larger massive holes for a while by plugging it up in places . By science and the laws of probability, it still will empty out into a bell curve. We are placing too much faith in the policies of these medical experts.

One obvious and major factor that is not heard much by these so-called experts is the warming trend and rains that come in the Spring and into the Summer. This always 'flattens' or deceases the apex of the bell curve naturally for a virus such as this one, as in the common flu.

Great Day!

APAK
 

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I would not place to much credence in the 'flattened' curve hype, even hoax curve. Realistically it is nearly always the bell curve that is true, whether one tries to restrain the spread or not; there are too many contaminating variables added into the mix when a so-called medical expert explains it only as their preventive polices as we see and read in the media. They know there are more factors that they cannot control or get credit for, ever. Not shaking hands or 'distancing' and washing things down does not deter this virus spread in the larger picture. It just delays the spread like a decaying dam that is kept from creating larger massive holes for a while by plugging it up in places . By science and the laws of probability, it still will empty out into a bell curve. We are placing too much faith in the policies of these medical experts.

One obvious and major factor that is not heard much by these so-called experts is the warming trend and rains that come in the Spring and into the Summer. This always 'flattens' or deceases the apex of the bell curve naturally for a virus such as this one, as in the common flu.

Great Day!

APAK
Well, the stats at the Daily Mail don't line up with those at Wikipedia. If you check out the chart Rita referred to, you'll see a very sharp drop off -- and they hadn't done anything. I think the stats at Wikipedia are probably more accurate.

I don't think it's warm enough yet in Sweden for that to be a factor.
 
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Well, the stats at the Daily Mail don't line up with those at Wikipedia. If you check out the chart Rita referred to, you'll see a very sharp drop off -- and they hadn't done anything. I think the stats at Wikipedia are probably more accurate.

I don't think it's warm enough yet in Sweden for that to be a factor.
We have had a sudden warm spell over the last few weeks- it’s been more like summer here and in Europe - our seasons are a bit warped, have been for a few years.
However it’s been quite dry , not much rain, although I think they said that will change in the coming week.
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We have had a sudden warm spell over the last few weeks- it’s been more like summer here and in Europe - our seasons are a bit warped, have been for a few years.
However it’s been quite dry , not much rain, although I think they said that will change in the coming week.
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That's interesting, Rita. I still wonder if that explains it. Warm weather might even make things worse for a while since more non symptomatic people will out socializing.

April 13, 2020 As virus deaths rise, Sweden sticks to 'low-scale' lockdown

Crowds swarm Stockholm's waterfront, with some people sipping cocktails in the sun. In much of the world, this sort of gathering would be frowned upon or even banned.

That article compared Sweden and Denmark.

For weeks, the numbers of COVID-19 cases and fatalities were proportionally similar between Sweden and Denmark, but while the economic results of the strict isolation are being felt in Denmark, Sweden's mortality rate has reached more than 88 dead per million, compared with around 47 dead per million in Denmark.

Sweden, with a population of 10 million, has registered 899 deaths, while Denmark, with 5.8 million people, has 273 deaths. Worldwide, the virus has infected a reported 1.8 million people and killed 114,000, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University. Still, due to limited testing, different ways of counting the dead and deliberate under-counting by some governments, experts believe those numbers vastly understate the pandemic's true toll.

After a sharp spike in deaths in Sweden, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven proposed an emergency law allowing the quick closure of public venues and transportation if needed. Lofven also warned citizens to prepare for possibly up to thousands of deaths.


That makes me think the numbers on the chart at the Daily Mail are wrong.
 
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Agree!

The same way that Gates "prophesied" five years ago that it would come.
I think they 'know something' in advance ...LOL
It will come back because they have planned ahead for it to come back.

The thing that annoys me is they think the public is stupid or something...(which most are I guess, and believe all their guff )
It's not like God didn't already prepare us for this, and what is yet to come.


.........H
I was thinking about this post yesterday, what about the fact that David Wilkinson also prophesied in the past and claimed that it would bring a revival - so could this actually be evidence of ‘ what mans plans ‘ is one thing, but actually what God can bring out of it is something quite different. Romans 8:28

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That's interesting, Rita. I still wonder if that explains it. Warm weather might even make things worse for a while since more non symptomatic people will out socializing.

April 13, 2020 As virus deaths rise, Sweden sticks to 'low-scale' lockdown

Crowds swarm Stockholm's waterfront, with some people sipping cocktails in the sun. In much of the world, this sort of gathering would be frowned upon or even banned.

That article compared Sweden and Denmark.

For weeks, the numbers of COVID-19 cases and fatalities were proportionally similar between Sweden and Denmark, but while the economic results of the strict isolation are being felt in Denmark, Sweden's mortality rate has reached more than 88 dead per million, compared with around 47 dead per million in Denmark.

Sweden, with a population of 10 million, has registered 899 deaths, while Denmark, with 5.8 million people, has 273 deaths. Worldwide, the virus has infected a reported 1.8 million people and killed 114,000, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University. Still, due to limited testing, different ways of counting the dead and deliberate under-counting by some governments, experts believe those numbers vastly understate the pandemic's true toll.

After a sharp spike in deaths in Sweden, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven proposed an emergency law allowing the quick closure of public venues and transportation if needed. Lofven also warned citizens to prepare for possibly up to thousands of deaths.


That makes me think the numbers on the chart at the Daily Mail are wrong.
It’s a bit difficult to tell with our daily newspapers, I think there are very few that can be trusted, a bit like the news channels.
I mean yesterday we had a lower death rate ( under 700 ) compared to over 900 the day before- but ALL the headlines focussed on the fact that we have reached over 10,000 and conveyed the news in a negative light. Not one headline relayed that there was a fall in the numbers of deaths.
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I was thinking about this post yesterday, what about the fact that David Wilkinson also prophesied in the past and claimed that it would bring a revival - so could this actually be evidence of ‘ what mans plans ‘ is one thing, but actually what God can bring out of it is something quite different. Romans 8:28

Rita
There's two parts important to revival - one: Learning that the Creator Never Lies. His Care, Nurture, Discipline, Scourging, Plan and Purpose and Word is all in Perfect Harmony.
Two: Men always lie. ( except the new creation/ born again ones/ called and chosen by God).

So, do as Jesus says: Turn to The Creator, away from self/ man/sin/the world. For His Kingdom Is At Hand.