Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Joseph77]

Anti-Catholics are afraid of being attacked by other Protestants because they can't agree on anything.

In the LIGHT, as JESUS IS THE LIGHT, we are afraid of nothing.

The ones walking in darkness, opposed to Jesus, the ones who have rejected the LIGHT (JESUS),

they are full of fear, just like m.theresa always was (she suffered constant depression, she stated) . (as she reported many times -NEVER having any assurance or peace, nor presence of God, nor salvation)

 

[Jane_Doe22]

So, if you saw a man on his second floor balcony having his breakfast coffee and toast, and there was a fire raging in his basement, would you stand there and warn him in a still small voice? I guess not!!! You would yell for all your worth, "You house is on fire! Get out of there!!!!"

Again with the scare tattics!

Every Catholic on here has heard all of these disagreements a million times. Calling their beliefs "rat poison" isn't going to change anything. Remember: Christ loves those whom do evil and does not force them to turn.

 

[Joseph77]

Also: a jahidist uses this same rationale.

?
So you think the ones who blow up buildings, kill hundreds or thousands of women, babies, and men,

we should just bow our heads and let them continue to blow up buildings and plow into crowds with trucks and

self-martyr themselves while taking other innocent lives?

We should just let them go on doing that ?

 

[Paul Christensen]

Warning vs harrassment are two different things.

Also: a jahidist uses this same rationale.


Remember: Christ LETS people walk off that cliff.

If someone came into your LDS church and started publicly slagging off Joseph Smith and calling you all worshipers of demons and on the road to hell, would your elders speak to him nicely, or would they frog march him out the door??

 

[Joseph77]

[QUOTE="Jane_Doe22, post: 719398, member: 7910"
Every Catholic on here has heard all of these disagreements a million times. Calling their beliefs "rat poison" isn't going to change anything. Remember: Christ loves those whom do evil and does not force them to turn.[/QUOTE]
What is going to PROTECT the children who they would deceive if they are allowed to?

THe men, women and children who will lose their own souls if they follow the enemy of Christ ?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

But NOT HIS SHEEP.

And He warns everyone about the false teachings, false doctrines, and so on. HE NEVER stays silent when HIS SHEEP are under attack by the roman catholics.... (well, sometimes there is no one to speak up for the ones being martyred by the roman catholics,
but the judgment of those who kill them
is written in REVELATION - i.e. they are not only righteously judged, they are destined for destruction)

Warning vs harrassment/abuse/flaming are two very different things.

But if you want to continue your jihad-like war against people whom also love Christ (which does include Catholics), then you can certainly do so.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

If someone came into your LDS church and started publicly slagging off Joseph Smith and calling you all worshipers of demons and on the road to hell, would your elders speak to him nicely, or would they frog march him out the door??

Happens routinely.

And I and others politely talk to them. Such is love.

 

[Joseph77]

people whom also love Christ (which does include Catholics)

IF they love Christ,
WHY do they follow the devil ?

 

[Joseph77]

Happens routinely.

And I and others politely talk to them. Such is love.

You're LDS !?

 

[Paul Christensen]

Again with the scare tattics!

Every Catholic on here has heard all of these disagreements a million times. Calling their beliefs "rat poison" isn't going to change anything. Remember: Christ loves those whom do evil and does not force them to turn.

You are avoiding my question because you know I am right! :-)

 

[Jane_Doe22]

?
So you think the ones who blow up buildings, kill hundreds or thousands of women, babies, and men,

we should just bow our heads and let them continue to blow up buildings and plow into crowds with trucks and

self-martyr themselves while taking other innocent lives?

We should just let them go on doing that ?

They literally use the same rationale you are doing: anything is necessary to protect people from evil.

 

[Joseph77]

Happens routinely.

And I and others politely talk to them. Such is love.

JESUS SAYS DIRECTLY that OPEN REBUKE is better than that kind of love.

 

[Joseph77]

They literally use the same rationale you are doing: anything is necessary to protect people from evil.

Like satan used the same rationale to get roman catholics and lds to lose their souls ?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

You're LDS !?

That's a well-known fact.

And going to premept something here: before you crusade to tell me to quit believing in some flying=pink-speggitti monster, please actually fact check whether or not I believe in that flying=pink-speggitti monster first (hint: I don't). Such conversations are also best done via pm or some other thread (not to derail the Catholic bashing session....)

 

[Paul Christensen]

Happens routinely.

And I and others politely talk to them. Such is love.

Yeah...Right!

 

[Grailhunter]

I'd accept what you are saying - except the reference to Christ's mother. Mary is not in heaven with Christ at all. That is one of the poisonous soul-destroying doctrines that is tantamount to idolatry. Mary is in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the just in Christ.


Christ taught everything the church needed to know through the books of the New Testament. The devil came along and taught the Catholics that Mary is their "Queen of Heaven", but didn't let on that he was installing an imaginary pagan Queen of Heaven instead.


Martin Luther went to Rome thinking that going there would sort him out and establish his faith in God so that he could stop believing that God hated him. instead, when seeing the priests with prostitutes, having fornication with nuns, having adultery with the wives of parishoners, and all the illegitimate children, he became even more disillusioned with the Church and fired up his desire to bring reforms to it. Then he discovered that the Bible told him he was justified by faith and not by works, and that revolutionised his view of God and what Christ did for him on the cross. And the rest is history. Then he realised that Mary the Queen of Heaven was an imaginary idol and the pope was the Anti-Christ.

They would know that an appearance of Mary would be a demonic vision and they would reject it out of hand, because they would have known that the real Mary is still in the grave awaiting the Last Day resurrection of believers.

This is easy, you run with fundamentalism. I am ok with what you believe. Why can’t you be ok with what someone else believes The Catholics are the big boy on the block, an easy target. But there are Protestants out there that believe baptism is merely a public display…the same thing with communion. Some Protestants consider "tongues" of the devil. There is a lot a person can find to condemn or criticize, why be the type of person that goes looking for that. It is enough to say...say, I do not believe what they do......whether it is about Catholics or Protestants. No need to day it is of the devil. Using words like false, idols, evil, or anit-christ,...or I am just being forthright in exposing false doctrines of demons, and warning people who believe in them that they are risking their future in the judgment.

 

[Joseph77]

They literally use the same rationale you are doing: anything is necessary to protect people from evil.

They use the same rationale, so you just let them blow up buildings ?

 

[Joseph77]

That's a well-known fact.

And going to premept something here: before you crusade to tell me to quit believing in some flying=pink-speggitti monster, please actually fact check whether or not I believe in that flying=pink-speggitti monster first (hint: I don't). Such conversations are also best done via pm or some other thread (not to derail the Catholic bashing session....)

I never assumed you were anti-christ.

I never assumed the roman catholics were anti-christ, either, until they post the anti-Scripture things , individually, that they do.

i.e. it is possible for an lds, and for a roman catholic, not to be anti-christ - only if they say things that are anti-Scripture, anti-Jesus, can it be seen that they are not true Christians. (i.e. by their own words, not by any assumption)

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I never assumed you were anti-christ.

I'm actually extremely pro-Christ. He's my Lord, Savior, foundation, center of everything.

 

[Joseph77]

I'm actually extremely pro-Christ. He's my Lord, Savior, foundation, center of everything.

Faith that is true, like real gold, is tested as if by fire, and proven.