Coronavirus spreading

[reformed1689]

Because they follow medical advice during a pandemic?

No, because they get hysterical.

 

[Justadude]

Yep. Remember, in high school , there was always someone who tried to get status, challenging others to do stupid things, by calling them "chicken?" Some things never change.

Democrats are twice more likely (61 percent) than Republicans (30 percent) to say they plan to stop attending large gatherings...There’s a similar Democrat-Republican divide over canceling travel plans ( 47-23 percent), a belief that daily life will change (56-26 percent), and worries that they or a family member might contract coronavirus (68-40 percent).

Think of it as nature culling the herd.

If only the virus would restrict itself to infecting just the stupid. ;)

 

[aspen]

Just like a chest cold. A chest cold that killed about 2% of the Americans who got the virus.

yes. Of course the common cold, also a corona type virus, has killed far more people this year.....

 

[Yehren]

When people think following medical advice is "hysterical", we've got a problem.

The key here is that an amount of social isolation isn't just good health for an individual. By slowing the progress of the epidemic, it becomes more manageable for everyone.

Flipping between denial and hysteria is what we're seeing from the the WH.

 

[69chapels]

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(God uses "repeated figures" its related to Prophecy)

MATTHEW 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David [are] fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon [are] fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ [are] fourteen generations.

Fatima 1917 + 144 Years (for 144,000 of Revelation) = Halley's Comet 2061 A.D.

Fatima 1917 + 104 Years = 5/21/2021 (1290 + 1335 Days from Flight 370 in 2014) (153 Days before that, God only acts within Seven Years = 12/21/2020)

Matthew 1 genealogy of 41 for 41 Years = 12/21/2020 to 5/21/2021 for 153 Days (41 Years from Halley's Comet in 2061 A.D.)

1. God does not Wrestle with Sin, from time to time, God will do a die off for the excess of sin
2. God's Accusation against Humanity is "Dead Flesh", that is why you do not have a "true unified field/rainbow", God will reveal that, but it does not last, many people will have to diel
3. God's Accusation is about you humanity, not having a "will to life", and not having "faith", just pleeasure in suicide, (dead flesh), you do have the right to die worthless, God designed the law for effectiveness to save a few people generationally, and noting more, so you don't have a fight against god taking place, its your natural state and that is suicide in your emnity with god.

(God's Mercies are the formal rebuke for "dead flesh", you'll have to take your "take" out of that.................not only will have to dispose of a great many people, but those genetic lines in revelation with no value, have no value with god's mercies, it is your accusation in suicide, so we'll have to see how things fall out of my hands) (jews and ethnics stay in an envelop of incest/suicide with me, that is apart of your natural state your accusation against god for suicide only) (and this continues) (right now everything is good)

(Fatima Prophecy was the biggest sign God gave so far within the last few hundred years, and that alone is valuable, "flight 370" only adds detail)

 

[Yehren]

yes. Of course the common cold, also a corona type virus, has killed far more people this year.....

So far? Show us those numbers for the mortality rate or total deaths from a common cold. Incidentally, some forms of the common cold are in the group of coronaviruses. Others are not. Do you understand what the term means?

 

[aspen]

When people think following medical advice is "hysterical", we've got a problem.

The key here is that an amount of social isolation isn't just good health for an individual. By slowing the progress of the epidemic, it becomes more manageable for everyone.

Flipping between denial and hysteria is what we're seeing from the the WH.

In addition, chances are, if you are healthy and get the virus, you will probably have mild symptoms, but you should still practice social distancing to protect people like your grandparents and people with chronic illnesses.

If you do not like the idea of protecting yourself, think about other people

 

[aspen]

So far? Show us those numbers for the mortality rate or total deaths from a common cold. Incidentally, some forms of the common cold are in the group of coronaviruses. Others are not. Do you understand what the term means?

I have listened to several doctors explain the places where the virus attacks the body, but I am not a doctor.

 

[aspen]

80,000 Americans died of the flu last year - I am still looking for stats on the common cold - I ran across it last night, but can’t remember the number

 

[Justadude]

When people think following medical advice is "hysterical", we've got a problem.

Just today I see stories of evangelical preachers holding services, encouraging congregants to shake hands, saying only "pansies" are taking precautions, archbishops continuing to conduct communion because "Christ doesn't spread germs", Fallwell Jr. keeping Liberty U. open....

Crazy.

 

[aspen]

So what I am seeing so far is, death stats connected with the common cold are most often caused by secondary infections

 

[aspen]

Just today I see stories of evangelical preachers holding services, encouraging congregants to shake hands, saying only "pansies" are taking precautions, archbishops continuing to conduct communion because "Christ doesn't spread germs", Fallwell Jr. keeping Liberty U. open....

Crazy.

They would be the Flagellants of the Middle Ages during the Plague

 

[Justadude]

 

[aspen]

So far? Show us those numbers for the mortality rate or total deaths from a common cold. Incidentally, some forms of the common cold are in the group of coronaviruses. Others are not. Do you understand what the term means?

corona viruses attack the lower respiratory system and sometimes the tissues of the kidneys. According to the CDC, corona viruses make up the majority of illnesses connected to the common cold - rhinoviruses (upper respiratory viruses) are another common cold virus

 

[Yehren]

aspen said: ↑
yes. Of course the common cold, also a corona type virus, has killed far more people this year.....

So far? Show us those numbers for the mortality rate or total deaths from a common cold. Incidentally, some forms of the common cold are in the group of coronaviruses. Others are not. Do you understand what the term means?

corona viruses attack the lower respiratory system and sometimes the tissues of the kidneys. According to the CDC, corona viruses make up the majority of illnesses connected to the common cold - rhinoviruses (upper respiratory viruses) are another common cold virus

Well over 200 virus strains are implicated in causing the common cold, with rhinoviruses being the most common.
Antibiotics Aren’t Always the Answer

The mortality rate for the common cold is even lower than that for the flu, which is normally about 0.1%. Unless we are extremely lucky and the belated controls put in place "contains" the outbreak, we've just seen the beginning of the epidemic.

I am still looking for stats on the common cold - I ran across it last night, but can’t remember the number

I've never seen mortality rates for the common cold. Far as I know, the only way to die, is if you're severely immuno-compromised, or you get a different infection along with the cold. Let me know what you find.

 

[APAK]

There are those that think this virus never originated in China...it came out of a US Army Lab....I tend to agree...

COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
By Larry Romanoff
Global Research, March 11, 2020
Region: USA
Theme: Intelligence, Science and Medicine

It would be useful to read this prior article for background:

China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?

By Larry Romanoff, March 04, 2020

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As readers will recall from the earlier article (above), Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus could have originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”.

The Taiwanese physician noted that in August of 2019 the US had a flurry of lung pneumonias or similar, which the Americans blamed on ‘vaping’ from e-cigarettes, but which, according to the scientist, the symptoms and conditions could not be explained by e-cigarettes. He said he wrote to the US officials telling them he suspected those deaths were likely due to the coronavirus. He claims his warnings were ignored.

Immediately prior to that, the CDC totally shut down the US Military’s main bio-lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, due to an absence of safeguards against pathogen leakages, issuing a complete “cease and desist” order to the military. It was immediately after this event that the ‘e-cigarette’ epidemic arose.

and more.......below.....APAK

 

[APAK]

Screenshot from The New York Times August 08, 2019

We also had the Japanese citizens infected in September of 2019, in Hawaii, people who had never been to China, these infections occurring on US soil long before the outbreak in Wuhan but only shortly after the locking down of Fort Detrick.

Then, on Chinese social media, another article appeared, aware of the above but presenting further details. It stated in part that five “foreign” athletes or other personnel visiting Wuhan for the World Military Games (October 18-27, 2019) were hospitalised in Wuhan for an undetermined infection.

The article explains more clearly that the Wuhan version of the virus could have come only from the US because it is what they call a “branch” which could not have been created first because it would have no ‘seed’. It would have to have been a new variety spun off the original ‘trunk’, and that trunk exists only in the US. (1)

There has been much public speculation that the coronavirus had been deliberately transmitted to China but, according to the Chinese article, a less sinister alternative is possible.

If some members of the US team at the World Military Games (18-27 October) had become infected by the virus from an accidental outbreak at Fort Detrick it is possible that, with a long initial incubation period, their symptoms might have been minor, and those individuals could easily have ‘toured’ the city of Wuhan during their stay, infecting potentially thousands of local residents in various locations, many of whom would later travel to the seafood market from which the virus would spread like wildfire (as it did).

That would account also for the practical impossibility of locating the legendary “patient zero” – which in this case has never been found since there would have been many of them.

Next, Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease expert at Georgetown University in Washington, said in an article in Science magazine that the first human infection has been confirmed as occurring in November 2019, (not in Wuhan), suggesting the virus originated elsewhere and then spread to the seafood markets. “One group put the origin of the outbreak as early as 18 September 2019.” (2) (3)

China’s New Coronavirus: An Examination of the Facts
Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally.

Description of earliest cases suggests the outbreak began elsewhere.

The article states:

“As confirmed cases of a novel virus surge around the world with worrisome speed, all eyes have so far focused on a seafood market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the outbreak. But a description of the first clinical cases published in The Lancet on Friday challenges that hypothesis.” (4) (5)

The paper, written by a group of Chinese researchers from several institutions, offers details about the first 41 hospitalized patients who had confirmed infections with what has been dubbed 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

In the earliest case, the patient became ill on 1 December 2019 and had no reported link to the seafood market, the authors report. “No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases”, they state. Their data also show that, in total, 13 of the 41 cases had no link to the marketplace. “That’s a big number, 13, with no link”, says Daniel Lucey . . . (6)

Earlier reports from Chinese health authorities and the World Health Organization had said the first patient had onset of symptoms on 8 December 2019 – and those reports simply said “most” cases had links to the seafood market, which was closed on 1 January. (7)

“Lucey says if the new data are accurate, the first human infections must have occurred in November 2019 – if not earlier – because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing. If so, the virus possibly spread silently between people in Wuhan – and perhaps elsewhere – before the cluster of cases from the city’s now-infamous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market was discovered in late December. “The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace”, Lucey asserts.

“China must have realized the epidemic did not originate in that Wuhan Huanan seafood market”, Lucey told Science Insider. (8)

Kristian Andersen is an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute who has analyzed sequences of 2019-nCoV to try to clarify its origin. He said the scenario was “entirely plausible” of infected persons bringing the virus into the seafood market from somewhere outside. According to the Science article,

“Andersen posted his analysis of 27 available genomes of 2019-nCoV on 25 January on a virology research website. It suggests they had a “most recent common ancestor” – meaning a common source – as early as 1 October 2019.” (9)

It was interesting that Lucey also noted that MERS was originally believed to have come from a patient in Saudi Arabia in June of 2012, but later and more thorough studies traced it back to an earlier hospital outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in Jordan in April of that year. Lucey said that from stored samples from people who died in Jordan, medical authorities confirmed they had been infected with the MERS virus. (10)

This would provide impetus for caution among the public in accepting the “official standard narrative” that the Western media are always so eager to provide – as they did with SARS, MERS, and ZIKA, all of which ‘official narratives’ were later proven to have been wrong.

In this case, the Western media flooded their pages for months about the COVID-19 virus originating in the Wuhan seafood market, caused by people eating bats and wild animals. All of this has been proven wrong.

Not only did the virus not originate at the seafood market, it did not originate in Wuhan at all, and it has now been proven that it did not originate in China but was brought to China from another country. Part of the proof of this assertion is that the genome varieties of the virus in Iran and Italy have been sequenced and declared to have no part of the variety that infected China and must, by definition, have originated elsewhere.

It would seem the only possibility for origination would be the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick. This would not be a surprise, given that the CDC completely shut down Fort Detrick, but also because, as I related in an earlier article, between 2005 and 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs during the prior ten years.

something to consider..seriously


APAK

 

[Bobby Jo]

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Fatima 1917 + 144 Years (for 144,000 of Revelation) = Halley's Comet 2061 A.D.
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SCRIPTURE. Please use SCRIPTURE for ANY basis of end-time assertion. -- Imagination is insufficient.


Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

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In this case, the Western media flooded their pages for months about the COVID-19 virus originating in the Wuhan seafood market, caused by people eating bats and wild animals.
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It seems to me that any "evidence" as to any "source" should include China's attempt to cover-up the seriousness of the outbreak and associated deaths. So to impugn "Western media" as though it were complicit in some conspiracy theory would seem speculative at best.


But I will acknowledge that regardless of any "assigned blame", this DOES appear to be consistent with the Rev. 6 "plagues".

Bobby Jo

 

[Yehren]

something to consider..seriously

The problem with that hypothesis is, a weaponized virus would have a much harder bite and a much more rapid onset than this one. A good biological agent is both quickly debilitating, and self-limiting. This one is neither.