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[Willie T]

CALVINISM: TULIP
T: Total depravity – Every facet of every person everywhere has been marred by sin.
U: Unconditional election – God chooses those to be saved based solely on His will.
L: Limited atonement – Christ died only for those who are elect.
I: Irresistible grace – The elect cannot resist God’s call to salvation.
P: Perseverance of the saints – The elect cannot lose their salvation.

ARMINIANISM: DAISY
D: Diminished depravity – Humanity is depraved, but God uses prevenient grace to restore man’s ability to respond to Him.
A: Abrogated election – God bases His election on His foreknowledge of those who freely choose Him.
I: Impersonal atonement – Christ died for everyone, making salvation possible for everyone.
S: Sedentary grace – God calls everyone to salvation, but many freely reject it.
Y: Yieldable justification – The saved can fall from grace and lose their salvation.

MOLINISM: ROSES
R: Radical depravity – Every aspect of humanity is depraved, but we are not always as bad as we could be.
O: Overcoming grace – God’s grace is persistent in the life of the believer, but it can be resisted.
S: Sovereign election – God desires the salvation of all, but our salvation is based on His choice not ours.
E: Eternal life – God grants believers eternal security in their salvation.
S: Singular redemption – Christ died sufficiently for all people, but efficiently only for the saved.

 

[reformed1689]

CALVINISM: TULIP
T: Total depravity – Every facet of every person everywhere has been marred by sin.
U: Unconditional election – God chooses those to be saved based solely on His will.
L: Limited atonement – Christ died only for those who are elect.
I: Irresistible grace – The elect cannot resist God’s call to salvation.
P: Perseverance of the saints – The elect cannot lose their salvation.

ARMINIANISM: DAISY*
D: Diminished depravity – Humanity is depraved, but God uses prevenient grace to restore man’s ability to respond to Him.
A: Abrogated election – God bases His election on His foreknowledge of those who freely choose Him.
I: Impersonal atonement – Christ died for everyone, making salvation possible for everyone.
S: Sedentary grace – God calls everyone to salvation, but many freely reject it.
Y: Yieldable justification – The saved can fall from grace and lose their salvation.

MOLINISM: ROSES*
R: Radical depravity – Every aspect of humanity is depraved, but we are not always as bad as we could be.
O: Overcoming grace – God’s grace is persistent in the life of the believer, but it can be resisted.
S: Sovereign election – God desires the salvation of all, but our salvation is based on His choice not ours.
E: Eternal life – God grants believers eternal security in their salvation.
S: Singular redemption – Christ died sufficiently for all people, but efficiently only for the saved.

Why do two of those have asterisks?

 

[Willie T]

Why do two of those have asterisks?

The * referred to some later discussions the author of this piece was planning to go into in future posts.... the references would only confuse the simple display of the three flowers here.

 

[reformed1689]

A: Abrogated election – God bases His election on His foreknowledge of those who freely choose Him.

Y: Yieldable justification – The saved can fall from grace and lose their salvation.

Here is a huge problem with Arminianism. Neither of these points are biblical. I also have problems with the other points, but these two are blatant.

 

[Willie T]

Here is a huge problem with Arminianism. Neither of these points are biblical. I also have problems with the other points, but these two are blatant.

That's nice. Frankly, I don't care. I just posted about several disciplines using flower acrostics.

 

[reformed1689]

That's nice. Frankly, I don't care. I just posted about several disciplines using flower acrostics.

That's sad, we should always care if someone is propagating unbiblical teaching.

 

[Willie T]

As I said, "I really don't give a jovial rodent's rectum what any of you choose to believe... it doesn't affect me, one way or another."

 

[reformed1689]

As I sad, "I really don't give a jovial rodent's rectum what any of you choose to believe... it doesn't affect me, one way or another."

Wow. What an attitude! And a direct defiance of Scripture that says to speak against false teaching.

 

[Willie T]

Wow. What an attitude! And a direct defiance of Scripture that says to speak against false teaching.

That's why I am here. By your own admission, you believe what you believe because you were "programed" to believe that from before the beginning of time. So, you are a lost cause to any reasoning from me or anyone else. My concern is strictly for new Christians who might be enthralled with the various theories floating around, and be sucked into some of that stuff. I often have very good private talks with some of them.

 

[Enoch111]

Here is a huge problem with Arminianism. Neither of these points are biblical. I also have problems with the other points, but these two are blatant.

Non-Calvinist Christians have a HUGE PROBLEM with TULIP. So what is else is new? And one does not have to be Arminian to reject Calvinism either. One just has to stick with Bible truth.

 

[reformed1689]

By your own admission, you believe what you believe because you were "programed" to believe that from before the beginning of time.

And of course I have not admitted this. Yet another Strawman because you don't know what the people you attack believe or don't believe. FYI I have not always been a "Calvinist."

 

[reformed1689]

Non-Calvinist Christians have a HUGE PROBLEM with TULIP. So what is else is new? And one does not have to be Arminian to reject Calvinism either. One just has to stick with Bible truth.

I do stick with Scripture. Thanks.

 

[Enoch111]

I do stick with Scripture. Thanks.

How can you stick with Scripture and preach Limited Atonement? That is called PERVERTING the truth.

 

[reformed1689]

How can you stick with Scripture and preach Limited Atonement? That is called PERVERTING the truth.

How can you preach that Christ's sacrifice went to waste by preaching he died for every individual sin?

 

[Enoch111]

How can you preach that Christ's sacrifice went to waste by preaching he died for every individual sin?

Who says Christ's sacrifice went to waste? That's clearly a lop-sided view of the finished work of Christ. What you should focus on is whether or not Scripture reveals that Christ tasted death for EVERY MAN.

Once again, you clearly ignored my post which showed in black-and-white that the commentary of John Calvin regarding John 1:29 spoke about the whole human race. That was inescapable. So please go back and read that post, for which you do not have an answer. Which means that you are now WILFULLY BLIND.

 

[reformed1689]

What you should focus on is whether or not Scripture reveals that Christ tasted death for EVERY MAN.

Oh I definitely focus on that.

Once again, you clearly ignored my post which showed in black-and-white that the commentary of John Calvin regarding John 1:29 spoke about the whole human race. That was inescapable. So please go back and read that post, for which you do not have an answer. Which means that you are now WILFULLY BLIND.

I don't know which post that is. But since I own Calvin's commentaries I looked it up and guess what, you are the one that is ignoring what is written. Here is the FULL context of the comment by Calvin:

And when he says, the sin OF THE WORLD, he extends this favour indiscriminately to the whole human race; that the Jews might not think that he had been sent to them alone.

John Calvin and William Pringle, Commentary on the Gospel according to John, vol. 1 (Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2010), 64.

Calvin is rightly talking about people groups Jew and Gentile as John clearly talks about throughout his Gospel. Calvin, nor the Apostle John, say that every individual is who Christ died for. That is inescapable that you tried to twist the commentary. That's dishonest.