The saints of Israel

[Davy]

Act 1:11 Shall come in the same way as you have seen him going up to heaven. such is referring to his Majesty as such is expressed in the Clouds. it's spiritual, Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

That part I underlined is still confusing. Our Lord Jesus is not The Holy Spirit. Jesus is Who will literally return in the clouds, just like He ascended in the clouds per Acts 1.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

That part I underlined is still confusing. Our Lord Jesus is not The Holy Spirit. Jesus is Who will literally return in the clouds, just like He ascended in the clouds per Acts 1.

No Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit incarnate, as the Trinity confirms that all 3 are as one.
No one can know who Jesus Christ is unless it is confirmed by the Holy Spirit.
No one messes with the Holy Spirit because it will wipe the floor with you, that's the power of the Holy Spirit !
Jesus Christ only did the will of the Father he said and when he ascended that was not in his body, no one goes into Heaven with your flesh body.

The Clouds meaning is his majesty, he comes in his Majesty. he is not standing on top of a Cloud.
One has to understand the Hebrew position of the Clouds that they are representing in the Bible.

You know how Clouds are formed don't you, I can even make a cloud in a bottle for you as easy as a little experiment and then go on into why clouds form. but that's not the Clouds that Bible is on about, although they are a working of God as well in another sense. but that is not the point here with Christ coming in his Majesty.
You know that you do not have to see Jesus in the flesh to know him, I do not know how many times that some fool has said that they will believe in Jesus when they see him in the flesh well the Jews seen him in the flesh and what did they do to him did they believe him because they seen him :? no not at all !!! it was only the people who were open to the Holy Spirit that had faith in him and it was due to what he said and did as to why always.
Any person who is not open to the Holy Spirit will not give any regard to the Holy Spirit.
It is all about God the Holy Spirit being the foremost in your life and nothing comes before that in your life regardless.

The Kingdom is within you, no one can say here it is or behold their it is. it's in the midst of you and within your power to reach through faith. it has begun, the Pharisees might of recognised it, if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

The Messiah is already Reigning.

The Kingdom of God is not Heaven, it's here on Earth under Christ Jesus.

The Kingdom of Heaven is above, this is explained in Jesus talking to Nathaniel about what he was about to see.

 

[shilohsfoal]

No Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit incarnate, as the Trinity confirms that all 3 are as one.
No one can know who Jesus Christ is unless it is confirmed by the Holy Spirit.
No one messes with the Holy Spirit because it will wipe the floor with you, that's the power of the Holy Spirit !
Jesus Christ only did the will of the Father he said and when he ascended that was not in his body, no one goes into Heaven with your flesh body.

The Clouds meaning is his majesty, he comes in his Majesty. he is not standing on top of a Cloud.
One has to understand the Hebrew position of the Clouds that they are representing in the Bible.

You know how Clouds are formed don't you, I can even make a cloud in a bottle for you as easy as a little experiment and then go on into why clouds form. but that's not the Clouds that Bible is on about, although they are a working of God as well in another sense. but that is not the point here with Christ coming in his Majesty.
You know that you do not have to see Jesus in the flesh to know him, I do not know how many times that some fool has said that they will believe in Jesus when they see him in the flesh well the Jews seen him in the flesh and what did they do to him did they believe him because they seen him :? no not at all !!! it was only the people who were open to the Holy Spirit that had faith in him and it was due to what he said and did as to why always.
Any person who is not open to the Holy Spirit will not give any regard to the Holy Spirit.
It is all about God the Holy Spirit being the foremost in your life and nothing comes before that in your life regardless.

The Kingdom is within you, no one can say here it is or behold their it is. it's in the midst of you and within your power to reach through faith. it has begun, the Pharisees might of recognised it, if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

The Messiah is already Reigning.

The Kingdom of God is not Heaven, it's here on Earth under Christ Jesus.

The Kingdom of Heaven is above, this is explained in Jesus talking to Nathaniel about what he was about to see.

Why then is there no peace?

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from that time and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will accomplish this.

Or do you consider being killed "peace"?

 

[Davy]

No Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit incarnate, as the Trinity confirms that all 3 are as one.
No one can know who Jesus Christ is unless it is confirmed by the Holy Spirit.
No one messes with the Holy Spirit because it will wipe the floor with you, that's the power of the Holy Spirit !
Jesus Christ only did the will of the Father he said and when he ascended that was not in his body, no one goes into Heaven with your flesh body.

The Clouds meaning is his majesty, he comes in his Majesty. he is not standing on top of a Cloud.
One has to understand the Hebrew position of the Clouds that they are representing in the Bible.

You know how Clouds are formed don't you, I can even make a cloud in a bottle for you as easy as a little experiment and then go on into why clouds form. but that's not the Clouds that Bible is on about, although they are a working of God as well in another sense. but that is not the point here with Christ coming in his Majesty.
You know that you do not have to see Jesus in the flesh to know him, I do not know how many times that some fool has said that they will believe in Jesus when they see him in the flesh well the Jews seen him in the flesh and what did they do to him did they believe him because they seen him :? no not at all !!! it was only the people who were open to the Holy Spirit that had faith in him and it was due to what he said and did as to why always.
Any person who is not open to the Holy Spirit will not give any regard to the Holy Spirit.
It is all about God the Holy Spirit being the foremost in your life and nothing comes before that in your life regardless.

The Kingdom is within you, no one can say here it is or behold their it is. it's in the midst of you and within your power to reach through faith. it has begun, the Pharisees might of recognised it, if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

The Messiah is already Reigning.

The Kingdom of God is not Heaven, it's here on Earth under Christ Jesus.

The Kingdom of Heaven is above, this is explained in Jesus talking to Nathaniel about what he was about to see.

I think you're confusing what our Lord Jesus said. He did say He and The Father are One. The Godhead is in 3 Persons, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit Comforter, and Jesus is God The Son, Immanuel (God with us). Jesus The Son was crucified on the cross, not The Father nor The Holy Spirit. This is an important distinction to grasp, because Apostle Paul even shows us in 1 Cor.15:23-28 that The Father is excepted from Christ's future reign over His enemies, and once Jesus reigns over all His enemies, like that shows, then He will deliver up the Kingdom to The Father and God will be all in all.

Moreover, when He said His Kingdom is not of this world, the meaning is that His Kingdom will be in the next world, the world to come with His return. And that future manifesting of His Kingdom will be on earth, but it will be a Kingdom not of the flesh, but of the "spiritual body" that Paul taught, i.e., the resurrection or redemption. This earth isn't going anywhere, but God is going to cleanse its surface of man's works, and His future Kingdom isn't going to be some floating in the clouds spiritualized Hollywood dream either. Remember, the meek shall inherit the earth as written.

Another reason why this is important to grasp is because how there are some so-called Christian Churches that are wrongly teaching that Christ's Kingdom is already 'now', during this present world, and they think it is spiritual only, which is kind of what you have been saying. That is error, and not what God's Word teaches. We are indeed are made 'new creatures' in Christ Jesus by Faith on The Father through His Son, and that does apply to our inner spirit inside our flesh, but our spirit has yet to be redeemed to the world to come with the eternal glory that is also yet to come. It is the devil's children who are behind the idea of trying to create Christ's Kingdom here on earth today in the flesh.

 

[Enoch111]

Our Lord Jesus is not The Holy Spirit. Jesus is Who will literally return in the clouds, just like He ascended in the clouds per Acts 1.

Why is there so much confusion among Christians when the Bible is very plain and clear about these things? Christ made is crystal clear that He in NOT the Holy Spirit and that He would also LITERALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND VISIBLY come with *clouds* (of saints and angels) and with power and great glory. The amazing thing is that Enoch -- the seventh from Adam -- prophesied about the Second Coming of Christ.

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 1:14,15)

Those are the clouds -- myriads of saints and angels surrounding Christ and giving the appearance of clouds, since all are dressed in white and radiating light as they descend from Heaven.

 

[jimmiec]

Jesus does not come back in the Flesh. it's his Spirit that it's all about, that will be.
Acts 1:11 points his out, it's the Holy Spirit.

We were given everything that we need when Jesus Christ came, but one must be born again to understand.
The second coming is about that all the nonsense is going to be burnt up and what is left is the stark reality, the workings of all the BS will be seen for what it was, the temptations of Satan will be revealed to all as the whore that it truly is, one will knot be lead by Satan's powers because all will be totally destitute. all of mans works will be exposed for what it truly is in fact, no one will be able to hide that fact.
Their will be a big wake up call, like the world has ever seen or will ever see.
It will make WW2 look like it was just nothing.
I am sorry to say that anyone who looks forward to the day is a moron or a deranged Satanist.
If one had wished WW2 on the world, would you think that that person was insane ? well fact is that some wanted this all to happen back then, they peddled and pushed it, for their own ends. is it not the same with Satanist nowadays ?

You have a choice, do you want to get saved now (born again) or get saved if you just happen to survive the Hellfire's.

One can not be raptured unless you are truly born again in fact and if you are then you would not wish for the hellfire on others, but to help them so that their Soul will be saved. one may loose your life in the hellfire but not your Soul, that's what it's all about and if one does not realise that, well one is not truly Saved.

No Jew made it on his own in History and anyone who claims that the Jew is something to be idolises is a total fool or a Satanist.
The Jews has to come to Jesus Christ, as no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son. is their two Jesus ? how do you get saved ? is the first Jesus not good enough for you ? that you are looking to others.

But nowadays we have a lying whore undermining our Lord and Saviour, claiming that some so called Jews are back and are piddling on about the 2ed coming ? such people do not have faith is Jesus Christ at all and that's a fact ! they are looking for another Jesus and this is the Anti-Christ that they truly desire. for if they knew Jesus was the Christ they would not be running about like a goose, being mislead by such Anti-Christ whore.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Why then is there no peace?

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from that time and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will accomplish this.

Or do you consider being killed "peace"?

Did Jesus come to give Peace ?
In the Bible Jesus says Servitude.
If we all serve our Lord and Saviour then we will have life in abundance.
Just remember that Jesus Christ is the God of the living and not of the dead, is what he said. so in him you have life in abundance and what is this life, Grace and glory.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I think you're confusing what our Lord Jesus said. He did say He and The Father are One. The Godhead is in 3 Persons, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit Comforter, and Jesus is God The Son, Immanuel (God with us). Jesus The Son was crucified on the cross, not The Father nor The Holy Spirit. This is an important distinction to grasp, because Apostle Paul even shows us in 1 Cor.15:23-28 that The Father is excepted from Christ's future reign over His enemies, and once Jesus reigns over all His enemies, like that shows, then He will deliver up the Kingdom to The Father and God will be all in all.

Moreover, when He said His Kingdom is not of this world, the meaning is that His Kingdom will be in the next world, the world to come with His return. And that future manifesting of His Kingdom will be on earth, but it will be a Kingdom not of the flesh, but of the "spiritual body" that Paul taught, i.e., the resurrection or redemption. This earth isn't going anywhere, but God is going to cleanse its surface of man's works, and His future Kingdom isn't going to be some floating in the clouds spiritualized Hollywood dream either. Remember, the meek shall inherit the earth as written.

Another reason why this is important to grasp is because how there are some so-called Christian Churches that are wrongly teaching that Christ's Kingdom is already 'now', during this present world, and they think it is spiritual only, which is kind of what you have been saying. That is error, and not what God's Word teaches. We are indeed are made 'new creatures' in Christ Jesus by Faith on The Father through His Son, and that does apply to our inner spirit inside our flesh, but our spirit has yet to be redeemed to the world to come with the eternal glory that is also yet to come. It is the devil's children who are behind the idea of trying to create Christ's Kingdom here on earth today in the flesh.

The Holy Spirit guides all who are born again and they are alive in the flesh but not of the flesh.
To say that the Kingdome of God is not within our grasp is to reject Jesus Christ and all his disciples. who do you think that they are ?

The Church is hear now but it has not come to the point that all recognise it yet. as why would it be said that the Pharisees mite of recognised it if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

Why all this obsession with wanting hellfire to consume the world, seeking hellfire just for the hell of it, it's like Satanist wishing WW3 to come and then and then and then hoping that Jesus will come back down for you, but it will be the Devil himself first that such a one serves. why would a true Christian want to put people through such a ordeal. I thought that we should only love like Jesus explained. never doing wrong so that good may come out of it, because such a one would be condemned, would they not !

 

[shilohsfoal]

Did Jesus come to give Peace ?
In the Bible Jesus says Servitude.
If we all serve our Lord and Saviour then we will have life in abundance.
Just remember that Jesus Christ is the God of the living and not of the dead, is what he said. so in him you have life in abundance and what is this life, Grace and glory.

Isaiah says yes.There would be peace during Christs reign.
Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from that time and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will accomplish this.

But to question life in abundance.
How do you have life in abudance when someone runs i knife into your gut?Is that considerd peace or life?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Isaiah says yes.There would be peace during Christs reign.
Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from that time and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will accomplish this.

But to question life in abundance.
How do you have life in abudance when someone runs i knife into your gut?Is that considerd peace or life?

The point being that you are the one who has life in abundance, it's been given to you, or you are not under a curse yourself, like all who are not born again.
That don't mean that some jerk can not stab you.

One is at peace with in your self, now if all were as such then bingo !

Life in abundance means that you are not yourself under the curse of Sins, so you have what Christ Jesus came to give you, it's a better way of life as you are not lost to the worldly things that distract you from the path in Christ Jesus.
So in looking back you can see that you were on that treadmill of the worldly and you become enslaved to such. one can look back on such things as madness of the worldly carnal things that cloud your life in nonsense.
Narrow is the gate, for the wide ? leads to what.

 

[shilohsfoal]

The point being that you are the one who has life in abundance, it's been given to you, or you are not under a curse yourself, like all who are not born again.
That don't mean that some jerk can not stab you.

One is at peace with in your self, now if all were as such then bingo !

Life in abundance means that you are not yourself under the curse of Sins, so you have what Christ Jesus came to give you, it's a better way of life as you are not lost to the worldly things that distract you from the path in Christ Jesus.
So in looking back you can see that you were on that treadmill of the worldly and you become enslaved to such. one can look back on such things as madness of the worldly carnal things that cloud your life in nonsense.
Narrow is the gate, for the wide ? leads to what.

So youbelieve that is a kingdom of peace?
If giving up worldly things is peace then buddist munks live in paradise.
But i dont think that is what the verse means.

 

[Naomi25]

There are some on this board who believe they will replace the decendents of Israel.They claim the promised land and even Jerusalem shall be taken from the decedents of Israel and given to themselves.They believe the saints in the following verse can only be from gentile nations and not decendents of Israel.They even teach that Israel will no longer be a nation.

Revelation 20:9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

This is what God says concerning Jerusalem and the decendents of Israel.

Jeremiah 31:35 NIV: This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar-- the LORD Almighty is his name:
Jeremiah 31:36 NIV: "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," declares the LORD, "will Israel ever cease being a nation before me." declares the LORD.
Jeremiah 31:37 NIV: This is what the LORD says: "Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done,"
Jeremiah 31:38 NIV: "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when this city will be rebuilt for me from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate.
Jeremiah 31:39 NIV: The measuring line will stretch from there straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn to Goah.
Jeremiah 31:40 NIV: The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the LORD. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished."

So while these "christians"on this site claim they will in replace the decendents of Israel,God says this will not happen nor will Israel cease from being a nation

Ah, the strawman of "replacement theology" once again. I can never quite figure out if those banging the drum of RT truly think we believe the above, or if they just find it convenient to yell very loudly that we do...
Either way...its still wrong. Sorry.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Ah, the strawman of "replacement theology" once again. I can never quite figure out if those banging the drum of RT truly think we believe the above, or if they just find it convenient to yell very loudly that we do...
Either way...its still wrong. Sorry.

If you are not one of them who believe you will replce the decendents of Israel tyen you are not.Maybe you only believe you are adopted .

 

[Davy]

Why is there so much confusion among Christians when the Bible is very plain and clear about these things? Christ made is crystal clear that He in NOT the Holy Spirit and that He would also LITERALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND VISIBLY come with *clouds* (of saints and angels) and with power and great glory. The amazing thing is that Enoch -- the seventh from Adam -- prophesied about the Second Coming of Christ.

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 1:14,15)

Those are the clouds -- myriads of saints and angels surrounding Christ and giving the appearance of clouds, since all are dressed in white and radiating light as they descend from Heaven.

I see no confusion about Christ's coming on a 'literal'... cloud, the way He ascended into Heaven. This cloud here isn't the same idea as the Hebrews cloud of witnesses idea. This is about a literal cloud in the sky...

Acts 1:9-12
9 And when He had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, Which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven."
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
KJV

 

[Davy]

The Holy Spirit guides all who are born again and they are alive in the flesh but not of the flesh.
To say that the Kingdome of God is not within our grasp is to reject Jesus Christ and all his disciples. who do you think that they are ?

The Church is hear now but it has not come to the point that all recognise it yet. as why would it be said that the Pharisees mite of recognised it if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

Why all this obsession with wanting hellfire to consume the world, seeking hellfire just for the hell of it, it's like Satanist wishing WW3 to come and then and then and then hoping that Jesus will come back down for you, but it will be the Devil himself first that such a one serves. why would a true Christian want to put people through such a ordeal. I thought that we should only love like Jesus explained. never doing wrong so that good may come out of it, because such a one would be condemned, would they not !

They way you're trying to interpret Christ's Kingdom causes a contradiction between these two verses...

Luke 17:21
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
KJV

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence.
KJV

The idea of the Kingdom being 'within', or 'inside' you is about our spirit being 'born again' through Faith on Jesus Christ (John 3). It's a Kingdom of Spirit, not the flesh, but it will literally manifest on this earth when Jesus returns, which is why He said His Kingdom is not of this world, i.e., not of this present world.

What did Apostle Paul show us is the type body of the world to come in 1 Corinthians 15? He was showing us about the resurrection body, a "spiritual body" is what he called it.

I'm aware of what the occultists try to teach about Jesus saying the Kingdom is within you. They teach that it can be of the here and now, and that means developing the inner self to create a perfect life in the flesh, which of course is impossible.

 

[Davy]

The Holy Spirit guides all who are born again and they are alive in the flesh but not of the flesh.
To say that the Kingdome of God is not within our grasp is to reject Jesus Christ and all his disciples. who do you think that they are ?

If you interpret that to mean that Christ's Kingdom is of this present flesh world, then you have left what is written in God's Word and are instead heeding the doctrines of Satan's host that seek to create their own kingdom of this present world. Like Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

The Church is hear now but it has not come to the point that all recognise it yet. as why would it be said that the Pharisees mite of recognised it if they had eyes to see and ears to hear.

Christ's true Church is spiritual today. That is what Apostle Paul showed in Ephesians. And Jesus had to be rejected by His enemies at Jerusalem, otherwise God's Salvation would not have come.

Why all this obsession with wanting hellfire to consume the world, seeking hellfire just for the hell of it, it's like Satanist wishing WW3 to come and then and then and then hoping that Jesus will come back down for you, but it will be the Devil himself first that such a one serves. why would a true Christian want to put people through such a ordeal. I thought that we should only love like Jesus explained. never doing wrong so that good may come out of it, because such a one would be condemned, would they not !

Don't really know where you get all that idea about wanting hellfire to come. Are you hearing voices?

2 Peter 3:10 is Peter declaring from God's Old Testament prophets about His consuming fire that is to burn up man's works off this earth on "the day of the Lord", which is the day that Jesus returns. That is not going to be WW3, nor will it be instituted by man. God is Who said He will do it. So if you don't like that idea, then take it up with Him. But don't try to apply the idea as if it were mine, or someone else's. Our Heavenly Father said through His prophets that He will do it. And we can count on it.

And I myself, with Him, laugh at Satan's host today who think they can establish their own world kingdom in this present world. They may try, but God is going to destroy it, totally.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

They way you're trying to interpret Christ's Kingdom causes a contradiction between these two verses...

Luke 17:21
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
KJV

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence.
KJV

The idea of the Kingdom being 'within', or 'inside' you is about our spirit being 'born again' through Faith on Jesus Christ (John 3). It's a Kingdom of Spirit, not the flesh, but it will literally manifest on this earth when Jesus returns, which is why He said His Kingdom is not of this world, i.e., not of this present world.

What did Apostle Paul show us is the type body of the world to come in 1 Corinthians 15? He was showing us about the resurrection body, a "spiritual body" is what he called it.

I'm aware of what the occultists try to teach about Jesus saying the Kingdom is within you. They teach that it can be of the here and now, and that means developing the inner self to create a perfect life in the flesh, which of course is impossible.

My Kingdom is not of this world means not of your world or of your Sinful world or mans works, but of the Holy Spirit first and foremost in ones life is now yours.

When one is truly born again then one is in the Kingdom of God, that means that such is within you, that does not mean that the battle has been won over all the world yet in this time but as to the second coming such will be his Kingdom on earth and people will still have a flesh and blood but serve Jesus Christ only, because all will be born again under the Kingdom. Christ Jesus will be every ones King.

The only spiritual body is that that goes to Heaven. Kingdom of God is on earth and we are all flesh and blood but born again under the Kingdom of the King of Israel = such are the servants of God.

The Saints are born again, they have strength over Sin, Sin does not dominate over such a one, as they understand the workings of Sin and can deal with such because they have a handle on it's workings, not that they do not Sin, just that they are not under the power of such like a fools is.

Satan try's to make out that all people are totally corrupt regardless and that all Sins are of the same gravity.

Satanist try to undermine the human interaction between God and Man and that's why they hate Jesus Christ and peddle that the second coming is only a desirable thing, pointing to that there means justify the ends as in disregarding the hellfire to come before such, but then entice you to into a false security that you will be raptured out of their before the hellfire, that they have created or peddled comes, so in that bag of nonsense one must desire that your loved ones are toast, I do not support such at all as that is the working of malice and anyone who supports malice in anyway is of Satan as the Devil is in the detail ! it is clearly seen. like why would one wanted to create WW2 ? when you know that WW3 will be 7 times worse. give over ! such a one must be of Satan or a total moron to wish or hope that on anyone. I despise people like that as they are the lowest of the low and they will be going to Hell, as it is said they will reap what they have sown, one can not serve two Masters.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

If you interpret that to mean that Christ's Kingdom is of this present flesh world, then you have left what is written in God's Word and are instead heeding the doctrines of Satan's host that seek to create their own kingdom of this present world. Like Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).



Christ's true Church is spiritual today. That is what Apostle Paul showed in Ephesians. And Jesus had to be rejected by His enemies at Jerusalem, otherwise God's Salvation would not have come.




Don't really know where you get all that idea about wanting hellfire to come. Are you hearing voices?

2 Peter 3:10 is Peter declaring from God's Old Testament prophets about His consuming fire that is to burn up man's works off this earth on "the day of the Lord", which is the day that Jesus returns. That is not going to be WW3, nor will it be instituted by man. God is Who said He will do it. So if you don't like that idea, then take it up with Him. But don't try to apply the idea as if it were mine, or someone else's. Our Heavenly Father said through His prophets that He will do it. And we can count on it.

And I myself, with Him, laugh at Satan's host today who think they can establish their own world kingdom in this present world. They may try, but God is going to destroy it, totally.

The Satanist have established their own kingdom in this world, remember that is why Jesus came, remember the Vineyard story.

It does not have to be WW3 God does not see it in such a way, but all will reap what they sow and then in the end God wins regardless, no one wins against God as all that one can do is oppose him or reject him but the fact remains that not even the Devil has power over Jesus Christ as we see in when Satan try's to tempt him. what does Jesus say to the titch ? their you go he pointed out just who the Devil is.

As for the Hellfire, well that is what is to come before the second coming you know and anyone who rejects such must be of Satan in fact, one must be a total moron not to realise that fact. only a Satanist would tip toe over that subject, because it's going to be a real thing.

The true Church is and was always of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus Kingdom is of the Holy Spirit, they who are born again and who's King is Jesus Christ and they serve him the King of Israel, for they are the servants of God = Israel. now it is been so for 2000 years, the seed has been planted.

 

[farouk]

Ah, the strawman of "replacement theology" once again. I can never quite figure out if those banging the drum of RT truly think we believe the above, or if they just find it convenient to yell very loudly that we do...
Either way...its still wrong. Sorry.

I struggle with replacement theology, also. I just don't see the church in the Old Testament, either.

 

[Acolyte]

I didn't think it was all that difficult to understand. Women have nothing whatsover to do with lineage. Lineage is passed on from generation to generation solely by the male.

Mothers, wives and daughters don't matter, because they can never pass on their lineage to the next generation...

So Mary's lineage was not accounted for in the birth of our Lord and Savoir? Read again