aspen
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Hey look! It’s another thread discussing race with the usual suspects promoting racism.....how unique
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Thanks for clarifying that Enoch111, it makes better sense.There is quite a bit of confusion about this passage (Gen 9:22-24):
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
The plain literal meaning of this passage is that because Noah became drunken, he removed all his clothing and was lying naked. And that is why Shem and Japheth TOOK A GARMENT (clothing) and walked backward to cover him without viewing him. But Ham was shameless and he shamed his father, and was therefore cursed by Noah (not by God).
As John Gill writes in his commentary:
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father,.... Which, had it been through surprise, and at an unawares, would not have been thought criminal; but he went into his father's tent, where he ought not to have entered; he looked with pleasure and delight on his father's nakedness: Ham is represented by many writers as a very wicked, immodest, and profligate creature:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Noah's wife or illicit sexual relations.
Maybe it's that old mate does not truly understand what prejudice truly is I believe, or is it just a new age blinkers thing like one many have to put on a horse so it does not get spooked so easy, because such can not deal with reality that well.Oh look. It's aspen, projecting his racism. How predictable.
By the way, aspen, what happened to your thread about your particiaption in the antifa....I mean Trump ralley? It is no where to be found that I can see. Maybe it's just me.
Stranger
Maybe it's that old mate does not truly understand what prejudice truly is I believe, or is it just a new age blinkers thing like one many have to put on a horse so it does not get spooked so easy, because such can not deal with reality that well.
All the morons nowadays that are so wound up about things that no one really gave a hoot about looking back 20 or 30 years ago, one could of had D Trump in office back then and no one would of bothered with what he says at all in fact.
There is a dark cloud over this generation, that have been wound up like a toy and made to dance to the tune of all the Satanist, even Pope Paul said about it had entered into the RCC back then and now we have Pope Frances kissing the hand of Lord Rothschild in the same way that all who are under the Pope do to him when sitting in the Chair, not to mention this was done on TV and one can look it up on youtube. but them their blinkers sure do work a treat, as they are oblivious to what the Pope was truly doing in fact, The Pope was giving his obedience to Lord Rothschild, the family that owns half of the world's wealth.
Or like when a Premier of my State sprouts Satanic dribble about a so called 2ed Testament on stage in front of all of the Catholic Schools Parents: and all of the fools
swallowed the Premiers dribble !!! who is a left wing retard that did not even know what the GST rate was and was sprouting with arms up high, than now it was in charge of the States finances
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Prejudice is a Sin under Communism and so is Racism, one can not pre judge anyone because you are all regarded as the lowest denominator by such a degenerate dictator Government and the same with Race it just does not exist at all as far as they are concerned, because they do not respect anyone that is under their Satanic power. they do not respect anyone's race because they are the destroyer's of all culture and Soul, because such people do not have a Soul.
I point out evil and corruption regardless and call it out regardless of who or what it is and if that offends some so called race or bunch of slobs, that's their problem as I have every right to call out filth for what it truly is. just as Jesus did, not to mention that he was killed because people don't like the truth or can't handle the truth.
What has to happen is to define what it truly is that the new age is peddling nowadays and call them out on such, because people are putting labels on a subject that is pure fantasy.Good points. Keep moving forward. I ceased letting being called a racist bother me a long time ago.
Stranger
Man was created on the sixth day. (Gen. 1:26) (Gen. 1:31) That man was Adam.
What is the problem?
Stranger
There is quite a bit of confusion about this passage (Gen 9:22-24):
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
The plain literal meaning of this passage is that because Noah became drunken, he removed all his clothing and was lying naked. And that is why Shem and Japheth TOOK A GARMENT (clothing) and walked backward to cover him without viewing him. But Ham was shameless and he shamed his father, and was therefore cursed by Noah (not by God).
As John Gill writes in his commentary:
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father,.... Which, had it been through surprise, and at an unawares, would not have been thought criminal; but he went into his father's tent, where he ought not to have entered; he looked with pleasure and delight on his father's nakedness: Ham is represented by many writers as a very wicked, immodest, and profligate creature:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Noah's wife or illicit sexual relations.
My misspelling of the word is a typo, it happens, you know I meant incestuous.
Why would Noah's wife allow her son to have sex with her and bear him a son? If Noah's family was holy why would the son have sex with his mother or even want to, something definitely wrong with Ham, Satan must've gotten to him.
Where is this stated in Genesis 9????What part of this verse is not understandable ????
Where is this stated in Genesis 9????
We cannot simply project something heinous when there is absolutely no indication in the passage itself. And quoting a whole bunch of passages to prove your point does not strengthen it in the least, since they all have been taken out of context.
So what part of Genesis 9:22-24 (which is in plain English) do YOU not understand? This passage is very clear that because a garment was required to cover Noah's nakedness, a garment was placed over him. No indication of anything else whatsoever, and no sexual act.
Strong's Concordance (6172)
ervah: nakedness
Original Word: עֶרְוָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: ervah
Phonetic Spelling: (er-vaw')
Definition: nakedness
Brown-Driver-Briggs
1 pudenda, of man ׳רָאָה ע implying shameful exposure Genesis 9:22,23
Why are people trying to read into this passage what is not there?
No he was not,mankind was created on the 6th day ,ie male and female.
What has to happen is to define what it truly is that the new age is peddling nowadays and call them out on such, because people are putting labels on a subject that is pure fantasy.
The bastardisation of words nowadays can be just so loose, take a case where Australia's PM claimed that the opposition Leader was a misogynist by the PM, now that dude had 3 daughters that loved him and I am sure he loved them all, but this stupid ignorant lefty retard PM had to peddle such rot to the public at the time and then i seen that she the former PM was interviewed about this point that she had raised. the question was asked was that did she truly believe that the word in how it was traditionally used was fitting and she smiled and all coy said no no no ! but as to the socialist new age point of view was what she was peddling it's point of view, the view that we all nowadays must submit to, as Socialist ?
So one must be mindful of that such is a socialist perception of where they are coming from not to mention that all people are just a number in reality to such a Government and that they are in fact at war with what the free world was all about, Socialist are Slaves to the flesh !
When one understand that Holy Moses came to free Gods people, it was because such a people do not need to be enslaved, because they are of God and not just a number too their captives. a people who will not be ruled by God are destined to be ruled by Tyrants !
People nowadays look to human rights to save them all as if such was a god to them (idol) but is it that People nowadays are just to timid to endure responsibilities and that's the real key to such problems.
Albert Einstein quote. I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots.
The act of Marriage equality is about silencing everyone who doesn't endorse homosexuality.
Calling a child, 'Little man', is not only totally incorrect but is in fact a insult, but such has crept in due to ignorance.
Perverse is now called progressive.
As our world’s morals continue to spiral downward, uncovering nakedness in one way or another has become a favorite pastime. Culture has glorified nakedness and worked to numb our natural modesty by parading nakedness before our eyes. Even children’s clothing is sexualized, and media outlets praise nakedness as “bold,” “brave,” and “liberating.” We watch actors uncovering each other’s nakedness publicly on the big screen. The pornography industry has made a fortune by uncovering nakedness in every possible way, mocking biblical moral standards as archaic and restrictive.
We’ve lost the concept of honor for one’s sexuality, treating the sex drive as just another need to be met the way we treat hunger and thirst. Uncovering nakedness is no longer a source of shame in a culture that has been trained to expect and applaud it. Ironically, in a world that celebrates the uncovering of nakedness, sexual dysfunctions, abuses, and even infertility are skyrocketing. God created the human body, and sexuality is His idea; He therefore knows best how we function. First Corinthians 6:13 says, “You say, ‘Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.’ The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.”
God intended the uncovering of nakedness to be done only within His prescribed boundaries of marriage (1 Corinthians 7:2–5). Christians can help reclaim the sanctity of marital relations and modesty by refusing to deaden our consciences through sexually graphic TV programs, movies, and magazines. We can guard our eyes against pornographic images by installing filters on our internet devices. And we can honor our bodies by refusing to uncover our own nakedness in the way we dress, talk, or behave (1 Corinthians 6:18). Nakedness is no longer innocent as it was in the Garden of Eden, and wise people do not uncover it in dishonoring ways.
What does it mean to uncover nakedness in the Bible? | GotQuestions.org
The World is being led astray by the workings of Satanist, the Anti-Christ.The world has gone crazy Reggie.
Yes, he was. Adam was the first man. (1 Cor. 15:47)
Stranger
So do you feel the earth is around 6000 years old?
if that is what the Bible says, it's what I believe.So do you feel the earth is around 6000 years old?