Americans are being manipulated/ we're losing our country

[Soverign Grace]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm watching my country go down the tubes before my eyes. I'm waiting for a collapse because we cannot assimilate all the foreigners flooding in and many are going on welfare and into subsidized housing and we just can't do it. It will collapse all social services and there will be no SS or assistance for Americans. Only half the country is working and supporting the other half. We all know that this cannot go on. I shared how I was turned away by a hospital when I was in dire need, due to immigrants using it for free routine medical care. As a result of giving free medical care a number of hospitals closed down. That was when I really began to see that America and our way of life was at risk. As Christians we don't want to see anyone go without medical care but if you pile too many people onto a float they all sink and I think that America is close to sinking and we're all being kept busy and distracted with the antics of the Democrats and Trump. When America collapses we won't be able to help anyone. We'll drop to 3rd world status.

Now today I read that Trump is not going to include the citizenship question on the census. This will effectively cancel out our votes. Everyone keeps making excuses for him but there is going to have to come a time when we all face the truth that he is not who we thought we were electing. After much research I believe that he was put in place by the illuminati. He admitted that he was a Freemason and anyone who looks into it knows it's occult. President Trump just does not strike me as a Christian. What I see is a lot of Christians being deceived about him and making excuses for him.

We're seeing an unprecedented shift in our entire country and I think we all know at some level that this can't continue for long. Now Congolese are pouring in and they've been exposed to Ebola. I've been waiting for a pandemic. A relative cares for illegals with TB who leave the hospital and walk right out into the public. Others are in the hospital for 3+ months in negative pressure rooms running up multi-million dollar bills. We have people running the country such as AOC who are out of their minds. I read that a lot of foreigners are trying to attain office to get control of America.

We just can't do it and it's going to break us. I've had an uneasy feeling for months that something was coming.

Everyone holds different views. When I speak with other believers it's interesting that a few of my friends aren't concerned about all that is going on and are traveling, going to church, and just not concerning themselves with what is going on in the country and I just wonder if they have the right attitude or if their indifference is bad for the country. I'm trying to work out my own responsibility. I considered running for office but I was injured by someone else's mistake. Have you considered running for office? If so the pastor who writes Sons of Liberty said that he'll support you.

Has anyone thought about at what point you going to act and take a stand? This is an important question and one that I think we should think about.


“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...”

― Thomas Jefferson

I've been following "Sons of Liberty" an alternative news source started by a pastor. I thought I'd share the trickery that is being played on us:

Yuri Bezmenov, a former KGB agent with extensive knowledge on psychological warfare, warned Americans years ago of a process called ideological subversion. This is a four-stage process of demoralizing the nation, creating destabilization and crisis and finally, normalizing the final solution. Which is, of course, communism. In many ways, we are at the crisis stage just waiting for it to all come crashing down.

One of the steps in demoralizing a population is, as Bezmenov describes it, changing the perception of reality so that no one understands what is going on. Despite the overabundance of information, no one can come to any sensible conclusions on how to best defend their principles. Wouldn’t it be safe to assume that we are at that point in America when a citizenship question is controversial? Consider for a moment what we are exposed to daily. Forget about the left, we know what they are. All day long from supposed right-wing media, which is supposed to promote freedom of thought, speech and expression, anyone who criticizes Trump in the slightest is a so-called “never Trumper.” Why? This goes back to identifying the truth. Should we not be concerned about illegal aliens avoiding citizenship questions on the census and Trump doing nothing to change that? It doesn’t matter what he does outside of that, or whether his intentions are noble or subversive. The truth is the truth. If illegal aliens are avoiding the citizenship issue on the census, we will lose our vote.

America is turning into a nation of party worship. Principles are cast aside in the hopes that the lesser of two evils which we swallowed our pride and voted for, will fix things. The information being thrown at us is part of a carefully contrived narrative designed to, as Bezmenov says, keep us from coming together. As conservatives, we have to consider the possibility that it is us standing in the way of the fundamental transformation so desired by the left. Derogatory terms like never Trumper are just that, derogatory terms designed to discredit anyone that sees through the daily dose of propaganda just as the term racist is. We absolutely must stop paying attention to the made-up narrative and the notion that not supporting this president equates to not being a conservative. Defending principled truth must come first, even it means admitting Trump isn’t making America great again. This is detrimental if America will truly be a place where “it can never happen here.”
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We all know that America is being driven over a cliff and our way of life is coming to an end. Do you think that it is your responsibility to act or do you feel that God forewarned us about how bad things would get in the end and you can just go about your business and not be concerned?

At what point are you going to draw the line and get involved in the running of our government?

Confusing America Through Overabundance Of Information

 

[Enoch111]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm watching my country go down the tubes before my eyes. I'm waiting for a collapse because we cannot assimilate all the foreigners flooding in and many are going on welfare and into subsidized housing and we just can't do it. It will collapse all social services and there will be no SS or assistance for Americans.

When the Soviet Union was a power to contend with, the Communists had a detailed plan to destroy America. That plan is being currently implement while all the politicians and the President stand by and watch it happen. And while thousands of clueless voters continue to vote for the Democrats and the RINOs. Here are some of the key goals of the Communists:

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems....

THESE are the key Communist Goals on the list and demonstrate clearly how America has been subverted and torn apart from the inside out. You can see the entire, original list of 45 down below…a list that was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963. - Jeff Rense
46. Import anti-white racists from the Third World, via an open-borders policy, then force their integration to divide and conquer white Western civilization in North America.
47. Feminize men and disarm both the citizenry and military; especially disarm white males.
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

 

[APAK]

@Enoch111 I was ready to give you a 'like,' until I reread your post. You forgot two very important items.
1. These communists and those that want to undermine the West and this country were and still are the Zionist Jews under the cover of Russian Communism then...60 years ago.
2. These Zionist Jews have left Russia since the late 50's in the main. The Russian people booted them out. They are deeply entrenched in this country today more that ever. They are working within the body and life-blood of this country, corrupting and killing it from within.

What is the vaccination that will rid this scourge? Or has the disease or cancer gone too far as @Soverign Grace has written in the OP?

Bless you,

APAK

 

[Enoch111]

You forgot two very important items.

I don't think the blame can be placed squarely on Zionist Jews. Not at this stage.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The world will become Communist, it will become a dictatorship and we have seen nothing yet, Hitler was nothing compared to what's coming, more people will be killed then you can think of and their is nothing that we can do about it, as it's been planed years in advance world war one and two were just a creation as was every war, they are created for the plan of one world order government over all, with the Talmud in control of everything, they are the banks and all. not to mention that they are smart and know how to manipulate the majority easy as pie. it's simple to do, because the people are not educated, they are only indoctrinated how to think. if anyone becomes awake to what truly is going on, they can not handle it as they freak out and do not want to know about it all. so they claim it's best to be ignorant and just let it go.
No wonder it was so easy for the 6 million Jews to be killed like they were .

I know people in the military most who are that gutless that I can't believe it and this is only getting worse, they are like little boys fearful of standing up to the higher ranks, who are acting like little Hitler's, one Major I know just pointed out the rule book and they got rid of him in the most gutless nasty way one could think of, they went all out to destroy him and did ! hounded him sent way over the top nasty messages to him, that should get anyone in that higher position sacked on the spot, not to mention kicked out of the Country. if only the public knew what this moron had said and done to the Major, but the media do not want to know and I have to ask why not this dude was right at the top level and a queer and when he retired he was set to become a governor General but missed out and chucked a spack attack about it. not to mention that the clown now has become what they call a 'she' now and is claiming the hardships of being a woman now in spades, the poor little darling could not cut it as a man and now is a phony claiming represents real women : oh my . but a bastard like that can get away with it nowadays, 20 30 years ago he would of been ridiculed for the moron that he truly is.
Why do people put up with such nonsense nowadays ? well I think why did the German's not speak out about all Hitler was doing, well it's the same deal, You can't speak out or some Political Correct bastard will come down on you and all, in such vengeance that no one dare because of the wrath they peddle on all, they will destroy your lively hood ect, there is no end to their malice, because they are in fact Satanist.

 

[Soverign Grace]

When the Soviet Union was a power to contend with, the Communists has a detailed plan to destroy America. That plan is being currently implement while all the politicians and the President stand by and watch it happen. And while thousands of clueless voters continue to vote for the Democrats and the RINOs. Here are some of the key goals of the Communists:

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems....

THESE are the key Communist Goals on the list and demonstrate clearly how America has been subverted and torn apart from the inside out. You can see the entire, original list of 45 down below…a list that was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963. - Jeff Rense
46. Import anti-white racists from the Third World, via an open-borders policy, then force their integration to divide and conquer white Western civilization in North America.
47. Feminize men and disarm both the citizenry and military; especially disarm white males.
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

That's unreal - you can see where it has largely been accomplished. I don't understand where the communists factor in because I thought that the illuminati were at the apex of power. Where do you see the communists as factoring in?

I read that the 13 families - such as Rothschild and Rockefeller are behind the U.N. and even the nation of Israel. I read that the "Star of David" is really the Satanic star. We saw George H.W. Bush speak openly about the New World Order. Did you know it's even printed on our money? So it seemed to me that something was planned for America a long time ago. I still haven't put together all the pieces.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. DONE
11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. IN PROCESS
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. STUDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO A GLOBAL FLAGE.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. THEY SEEM TO HAVE THE DEMS AND SOME REPUBLICANS.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. UNSURE OF THIS?
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. IN PROCESS
18. Gain control of all student newspapers. THIS IS PROBABLY HAPPENING IN ORDER TO SHAPE YOUNG MINDS.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. HAPPENING.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions. COMPLETE.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. COMPLETE.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms." IN PROCESS
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art." IN PROCESS
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. UNSURE OF THIS ONE
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. IN PROCESS
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." IN PROCESS
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch." IN PROCESS
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." DONE
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. IN PROCESS
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." UNSURE OF THIS ONE
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. IN PROCESS
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. IN PROCESS
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. IN PROCESS

 

[Soverign Grace]

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. UNSURE OF THIS ONE.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. IN PROCESS
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. IN PROCESS
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. IN PROCESS
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.... IN PROCESS
46. Import anti-white racists from the Third World, via an open-borders policy, then force their integration to divide and conquer white Western civilization in North America. IN PROCESS
47. Feminize men and disarm both the citizenry and military; especially disarm white males. IN PROCESS

I went through that list point by point and we can see that we are far along into the process. I can see clearly how they've infiltrated education because of the mindset of some of these millennials. Your list correlates with the goals of the illuminati.
21 Goals of the Illuminati and The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman (ca. 1993)

At what point though are you going to try to abolish your government because it has become a threat to you and your family's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

Aren't Christians being too passive by waiting for God to swoop in and fix it all? I'm trying to figure out what our responsibility is and I'm afraid that too many Christians are sitting around on their duffs while we lose our country. God allowed our forbears to fight for what was right, so why do we today believe that we don't have to do anything and are just waiting for God to fix it? We can see how far along in the process we are. Now we have the state taking over children. We just read that a father was forced by a judge to let his EIGHT YEAR OLD SON assume a female identity and take powerful drugs to turn him into a female. Eight years old. And the court may force the father to pay for the operation. They've gutted manufacturing while flooding the country with drugs and all their other goals are being implemented. At what point are you going to act?

 

[Soverign Grace]

I don't think the blame can be placed squarely on Zionist Jews. Not at this stage.

You've introduced another viewpoint as I thought like APAK that the Zionist 13 families were behind the subverting of America - and other countries. I have never heard the viewpoint that the communists are behind it.

I read that McCarthy was actually a good man who was demonized for trying to root out communism.

 

[Soverign Grace]

The world will become Communist, it will become a dictatorship and we have seen nothing yet, Hitler was nothing compared to what's coming, more people will be killed then you can think of and their is nothing that we can do about it, as it's been planed years in advance world war one and two were just a creation as was every war, they are created for the plan of one world order government over all, with the Talmud in control of everything, they are the banks and all. not to mention that they are smart and know how to manipulate the majority easy as pie. it's simple to do, because the people are not educated, they are only indoctrinated how to think. if anyone becomes awake to what truly is going on, they can not handle it as they freak out and do not want to know about it all. so they claim it's best to be ignorant and just let it go.
No wonder it was so easy for the 6 million Jews to be killed like they were .

I know people in the military most who are that gutless that I can't believe it and this is only getting worse, they are like little boys fearful of standing up to the higher ranks, who are acting like little Hitler's, one Major I know just pointed out the rule book and they got rid of him in the most gutless nasty way one could think of, they went all out to destroy him and did ! hounded him sent way over the top nasty messages to him, that should get anyone in that higher position sacked on the spot, not to mention kicked out of the Country. if only the public knew what this moron had said and done to the Major, but the media do not want to know and I have to ask why not this dude was right at the top level and a queer and when he retired he was set to become a governor General but missed out and chucked a spack attack about it. not to mention that the clown now has become what they call a 'she' now and is claiming the hardships of being a woman now in spades, the poor little darling could not cut it as a man and now is a phony claiming represents real women : oh my . but a bastard like that can get away with it nowadays, 20 30 years ago he would of been ridiculed for the moron that he truly is.
Why do people put up with such nonsense nowadays ? well I think why did the German's not speak out about all Hitler was doing, well it's the same deal, You can't speak out or some Political Correct bastard will come down on you and all, in such vengeance that no one dare because of the wrath they peddle on all, they will destroy your lively hood ect, there is no end to their malice, because they are in fact Satanist.

I've read a lot about it in the last months but I never thought that communism was the ultimate goal but it appears that it is. And I agree with you that I think that times are going to get very bad. We're being dropped to 3rd world status and I'm afraid that we're going to wind up just like Venezuela. And I'm very wary of what is coming down the road.

I still believe that there are things that we should do to oppose it.

I see what happening in our town - everyone was inconvenienced by the road not being paved. The road got so muddy that we had to park a mile away and walk to our house. My car got stuck in the mud and I was trudging home and two German Shepherds came after me. I tried to run from them and fell right into the mud. I called the police to report it and they didn't believe me! He said "Oh come on Ma'm you want me to believe that two dogs chased you and you fell into the mud!"

So I called the mayor and scheduled a meeting and sent word to our neighbors. Everybody showed up and exploded on the mayor and the road got paved. So I look back on that and see where grumbling amongst ourselves yielded nothing, only being proactive did. Just think if more Christians would get involved and regularly email legislators, or protest, or called their mayor. We could effect a lot of change. I get frustrated with Christians who sail along with blinders on and don't do anything to try to change the insanity taking hold here. I've emailed our pastor and he is indifferent. I talked to a friend about it and she said that God was going to take us out before things got bad. Another friend ignores it all and remains in her bubble. But is that the right thing to do?

You mentioned Hitler Reggie - I watched a documentary on Hitler last night. The Nazi regime was brutal not only to the Jews but to others. The government gained access to who was an enemy of the Nazis and persecuted them. I think they're doing that in America. They keep a dossier on every student and query them to learn they and their families viewpoints on everything. Are they going to send the independent thinkers into FEMA camps? The Stasi beat up German citizens without consequence - much like we're seeing what is happening in America with police shooting and brutalizing citizens with impunity. Not all, just the psychologically unhealthy ones.

They are manipulating us - on a grand scale. My eyes have been opened to this for only a few months. I now have a greater understanding of the verse:
1 John 5:19

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

I feel sad that children are being born into this satanic system. I don't want to see our country in 5 or 10 years. But our families will.

I see what you're saying that speaking out makes you a lightning rod, but if enough Christians joined together and spoke in one voice then they may not be able to single one person out.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I just read this and it gave me comfort. I feel like Habakuk looking at all the corruption around me and praying and not seeing answers. Do others feel this way?

I don't put a lot of stock in "prophecies" of different people but this one sounded sincere. And I also invite others to join in prayer for our respective nations: PROPHETIC WORD: THE UPRISING HAS BEGUN | Intercessors for America

 

[Soverign Grace]

And this is the end of identity politics. Is it going to self-implode?:

Identity Politics Devours Itself