Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

[Dave L]

(5), (6), and (7) are true, but only to an extent.

Therefore I do not need to disprove the statements that you have given; because I agree with them.

Each point is true or they all are false.

 

[Dave L]

I explained it eons ago in this thread. You seem to want to argue in circles.

If you had the truth in the matter, you would agree with the rest of Christendom on the trinity.

 

[Dave L]

It is really the other way around.

You cannot produce scripture on several topics or you would have by now. It's all denominational theory.

 

[101G]

“For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.” (Mark 12:36–37) (KJV 1900)

First, thanks for the reply, LOL, LOL, sorry just could not help myself. scripture,
Luke 20:41 "And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
Luke 20:42 "And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luke 20:43 "Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Luke 20:44 "David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

now, knowing hind sight, the LORD, the Spirit, (abstract), JESUS, is the Lord spirit, (concrete) in flesh.
LOL, LOL, man. man, man, BECAUSE he is BEFORE David, (Spirit, LORD), and AFTER David, (spirit, Lord) . now, for the scripture you gave Dave, listen,
Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

see that term "Lord" here in the verse, it's the hebrew word,
H113 אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done') n-m.
אָדֹן 'adon (aw-done') [shortened]
1. sovereign (i.e. controller, human or divine).
2. lord.
{also used as a prefix for names}
[from an unused root (meaning to rule)]
KJV: lord, master, owner.
Compare: H136

hold that thought, now, same chapter,
Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath".
did not the LORD say to the "Lord" to sit at his right hand?. well here in verse 5, it's the SAME "Lord" in verse 1. two things . Lord here how is suppose to be sitting is defined as
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113

this destroys any notions that the "Lord" is not the "LORD" in flesh. "the diversity" or the "offspring" of God. meaning he's ..... the "ROOT" before David, and the "OFFSPRING" after David. scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
see Dave he's before David, (LORD/Father), as Ps 110:1 points out), and he's after David, (Lord/Son), as per Psalms 110:1 ststed...... you ddin't know that, did you Dave.

I'm telling you study definitions, and since you say you read Greek, you should have recognize both Lord's in verse 1 and verse 5. IT'S THE SAME PERSON .... ....... :cool:

How many ways must we refuite, reprove, and CORRECT you?.

I been down this road that you're going, listen, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death".

I suggest you study more, this is not a put down, ok, but an ecourgment, ok.
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101G said: ↑
I know he is REAL Spiritually, but you're not spiritual. listen is not God LOVE, now Dave is LOVE abstract or concrete. ... your answer please.

Dave said, "You are confused and in over your head".

so, I can take this as you cannot answer my question. or is saying that God is Love, and Love is abstract, is that's too much for you to answer? or is that over your head?.

PICJAG

 

[justbyfaith]

I am not going to argue with you anymore...you drew me into something that is not of the Lord, because the servant of the Lord must not strive...and both you and I have been doing that. If you want to continue this conversation, talk to me on PM.

re #803.

PS We have not been talking about several topics...we have only been discussing one.

 

[Dave L]

First, thanks for the reply, LOL, LOL, sorry just could not help myself. scripture,
Luke 20:41 "And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
Luke 20:42 "And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luke 20:43 "Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Luke 20:44 "David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

now, knowing hind sight, the LORD, the Spirit, (abstract), JESUS, is the Lord spirit, (concrete) in flesh.
LOL, LOL, man. man, man, BECAUSE he is BEFORE David, (Spirit, LORD), and AFTER David, (spirit, Lord) . now, for the scripture you gave Dave, listen,
Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

see that term "Lord" here in the verse, it's the hebrew word,
H113 אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done') n-m.
אָדֹן 'adon (aw-done') [shortened]
1. sovereign (i.e. controller, human or divine).
2. lord.
{also used as a prefix for names}
[from an unused root (meaning to rule)]
KJV: lord, master, owner.
Compare: H136

hold that thought, now, same chapter,
Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath".
did not the LORD say to the "Lord" to sit at his right hand?. well here in verse 5, it's the SAME "Lord" in verse 1. two things . Lord here how is suppose to be sitting is defined as
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113

this destroys any notions that the "Lord" is not the "LORD" in flesh. "the diversity" or the "offspring" of God. meaning he's ..... the "ROOT" before David, and the "OFFSPRING" after David. scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
see Dave he's before David, (LORD/Father), as Ps 110:1 points out), and he's after David, (Lord/Son), as per Psalms 110:1 ststed...... you ddin't know that, did you Dave.

I'm telling you study definitions, and since you say you read Greek, you should have recognize both Lord's in verse 1 and verse 5. IT'S THE SAME PERSON .... ....... :cool:

How many ways must we refuite, reprove, and CORRECT you?.

I been down this road that you're going, listen, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death".

I suggest you study more, this is not a put down, ok, but an ecourgment, ok.
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101G said: ↑
I know he is REAL Spiritually, but you're not spiritual. listen is not God LOVE, now Dave is LOVE abstract or concrete. ... your answer please.

Dave said, "You are confused and in over your head".

so, I can take this as you cannot answer my question. or is saying that God is Love, and Love is abstract, is that's too much for you to answer? or is that over your head?.

PICJAG

You are drawing conclusions way beyond your learning. You need to hit the books and learn what the teachers of the church have proven to be correct before going off on tangents.

 

[Dave L]

I am not going to argue with you anymore...you drew me into something that is not of the Lord, because the servant of the Lord must not strive...and both you and I have been doing that. If you want to continue this conversation, talk to me on PM.

re #803.

PS We have not been talking about several topics...we have only been discussing one.

If you love Jesus, take his yoke and learn of him through the scriptures.

 

[101G]

I am not going to argue with you anymore...you drew me into something that is not of the Lord, because the servant of the Lord must not strive...and both you and I have been doing that. If you want to continue this conversation, talk to me on PM.

re #803.

PS We have not been talking about several topics...we have only been discussing one.

no problem, just as the apostle stated,
Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

 

[101G]

If you love Jesus, take his yoke and learn of him through the scriptures.

well do it, and refuit anything I have posted.... :cool:

 

[Dave L]

no problem, just as the apostle stated,
Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

If you knew the truth in much of what you say, you would understand the three co-eternal persons of the Godhead which you deny.

 

[Dave L]

well do it, and refuit anything I have posted.... :cool:

None of what you say has any direct reference to scripture. You clip and snip a verse here or there and exploit it to bolster your wild ideas.

 

[101G]

You cannot produce scripture on several topics or you would have by now. It's all denominational theory.

well Dave I have produce scriptures, and definition to back them up.

 

[Dave L]

well Dave I have produce scriptures, and definition to back them up.

You presented ideas that exploit scripture. Nothing more.

 

[101G]

None of what you say has any direct reference to scripture. You clip and snip a verse here or there and exploit it to bolster your wild ideas.

first thanks for the reply, but is not that what the scriptures states? let's check the record,
Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

Isaiah 28:10 "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

you said, "You clip and snip a verse here or there" and exploit it to bolster your wild idea

if they are my Ideas then correct me by the same scriptures. for do not the scriptures ststes, "TEST the spirit by the Spirit?".

if what I'm saying is false, then the Teacher in you, the Holy Spirit, will show you the scriptures to correct me.

but if not then confirm the scriptures that we posted

 

[justbyfaith]

no problem, just as the apostle stated,
Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

You know I wasn't talking to you there...that was a reply to #803.

 

[101G]

You know I wasn't talking to you there...that was a reply to #803.

excuse me I thought it was directed at me forgive me... please.

PICJAG

 

[Dave L]

first thanks for the reply, but is not that what the scriptures states? let's check the record,
Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

Isaiah 28:10 "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

you said, "You clip and snip a verse here or there" and exploit it to bolster your wild idea

if they are my Ideas then correct me by the same scriptures. for do not the scriptures ststes, "TEST the spirit by the Spirit?".

if what I'm saying is false, then the Teacher in you, the Holy Spirit, will show you the scriptures to correct me.

but if not then confirm the scriptures that we posted

We still have three persons, all called God in scripture, present at Jesus' baptism, disproving your denial of the trinity. And raising questions about your ability to grasp and teach bible truth.

 

[justbyfaith]

If you love Jesus, take his yoke and learn of him through the scriptures.

As I said to you on PM, I have been doing that for the past 29 years, quite extensively, spending more time in the word in a day than most people do in a month.

 

[101G]

We still have three persons, all called God in scripture, present at Jesus' baptism, disproving your denial of the trinity. And raising questions about your ability to grasp and teach bible truth.

My ability to "TEACH?" no, I just repeats ...... or as the bibls say,
1 Timothy 4:6 "If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained".

Dave, I know that it's a schock to you to have your security blanket taken away. what you're missing is solid food. listen,
Hebrews 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 "For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

Hebrews 5:14 "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[justbyfaith]

Also, @Dave L,

You seem to think that you are going to convert me with a barrage of condescending remarks...however, I know what my Bible says and will not be swayed by your prideful attitude and demeanor.