The True Pronunciation of YHVH and the Name of Christ

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The tetragrammaton YHVH is pronounced Yehovah, “yeh-ho-vah”, and the name of Christ is pronounced Yeshua, “yeh-shoo-ah”, where the name of Yeshua includes the name of Yehovah in his own name in the YE part of the name, in shortened form from the longer version of the name Yehoshua, which is a contraction of two words, Yehovah and yasha, which means, “Yehovah delivers”. Exodus 3:15, Exodus 17:9, 1 Chronicles 24:11.

You can read the full study here http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/07/26/the-true-pronunciation-of-yhvh-and-the-name-of-christ/ .
 

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Please can you explain why this matter?

Does a Father care that his child cannot say Father but has to say Da Da!
 
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Please can you explain why this matter?

Does a Father care that his child cannot say Father but has to say Da Da!

Father and da da are not names, they are titles. A title is not set-apart, a name is,

…so they will not profane my set-apart name… (Leviticus 22:2 [MODIFIED-NIV])

And because it is set-apart, otherwise translated as "holy", it matters. Anyone who treats whatever is "set-apart" to God as ordinary deserves to die in accordance to the Law of God.
 

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Father and da da are not names, they are titles. A title is not set-apart, a name is,

…so they will not profane my set-apart name… (Leviticus 22:2 [MODIFIED-NIV])

And because it is set-apart, otherwise translated as "holy", it matters. Anyone who treats whatever is "set-apart" to God as ordinary deserves to die in accordance to the Law of God.

Tell that to a child.

Your quote is about respecting the sacrifcal offering, so is not relevent to how we pronounce the name of God.
Added to Jesus's telling us that we are to worship in Spirit and in Truth, that removes any concern for cerimonal pronouncing of God's name, especaly as we do not know how to pronounce it.
 
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Tell that to a child.

Your quote is about respecting the sacrifcal offering, so is not relevent to how we pronounce the name of God.
Added to Jesus's telling us that we are to worship in Spirit and in Truth, that removes any concern for cerimonal pronouncing of God's name, especaly as we do not know how to pronounce it.

And because Yeshua said "worship in spirit and truth" now you think you can treat his set-apart name as any other ordinary name, not mattering how you pronounce it or in what context you use it? Christ even said this,

“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, set apart be your name, (Matthew 6:9 [MODIFIED-NIV])

The name of God must be set apart, because it is a "set-apart" name. Do you not understand what "set-apart and "set apart" mean? I suggest you read this study on the true meaning of holy and sanctify http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/06/13/the-true-meaning-of-sanctification-and-holiness/ . The way to set apart the name of God is by using the name with care not only in context, but also pronunciation. This is why whoever blasphemed the name of God deserved to die, because it is treating something that is "set-apart" to God as ordinary, just like working on the Sabbath, which was a day that was "set-apart" to God, was also punished with death, because it is treating a "set-apart" day as any of the other ordinary days. There is great importance in whatever God declares to be "set-apart". Something that is "set-apart" is the opposite of "ordinary", hence why God said,

so as to make a distinction between the set-apart and the ordinary*, and between the unclean and the clean, (Leviticus 10:10 [MODIFIED-TS2009])*

Interlinear Links: *ha·ḥōl (ordinary), Leviticus 10:10

Which is why whatever is declared to be "set-apart" cannot be treated in ordinary ways. And because of this is why the apostles transliterated the Hebrew name of Yeshua into the Greek language, because it is a "set-apart" name, thus preserving the pronunciation, which matters, because that was the precise name given by the angel to name the Messiah.
 
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Please can you explain why this matter?
God and Christ have many names and titles. And nowhere in the New Testament are Christians urged to say Yah, Yahweh, Yehovah, or Jehovah, since JESUS is the focus of the NT and God is always addressed as "the Father". While Christ's Hebrew name is Yeshua, the world must now know Him as the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet there are large numbers of Christians (including preachers) who speak only of "Jesus", and others only of Yeshua.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:36).
 

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And because Yeshua said "worship in spirit and truth" now you think you can treat his set-apart name as any other ordinary name, not mattering how you pronounce it or in what context you use it? Christ even said this,

“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, set apart be your name, (Matthew 6:9 [MODIFIED-NIV])

The name of God must be set apart, because it is a "set-apart" name. Do you not understand what "set-apart and "set apart" mean? I suggest you read this study on the true meaning of holy and sanctify http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/06/13/the-true-meaning-of-sanctification-and-holiness/ . The way to set apart the name of God is by using the name with care not only in context, but also pronunciation. This is why whoever blasphemed the name of God deserved to die, because it is treating something that is "set-apart" to God as ordinary, just like working on the Sabbath, which was a day that was "set-apart" to God, was also punished with death, because it is treating a "set-apart" day as any of the other ordinary days. There is great importance in whatever God declares to be "set-apart". Something that is "set-apart" is the opposite of "ordinary", hence why God said,

so as to make a distinction between the set-apart and the ordinary*, and between the unclean and the clean, (Leviticus 10:10 [MODIFIED-TS2009])*

Interlinear Links: *ha·ḥōl (ordinary), Leviticus 10:10

Which is why whatever is declared to be "set-apart" cannot be treated in ordinary ways. And because of this is why the apostles transliterated the Hebrew name of Yeshua into the Greek language, because it is a "set-apart" name, thus preserving the pronunciation, which matters, because that was the precise name given by the angel to name the Messiah.


As we do not know how to pronounce God's true name the argument becomes irrelevent.

For all you know the convention of using the vowels from adoni in yhwh could be total wrong.

In stressing that we MUST honour God's name above our duty to be obedient to his command you are running the risk of making honouring an unpronouncable name into a work.

Yes God's name is to be honoured. Not doing so is sin, sin has been dealt with through Jesus.
 

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God and Christ have many names and titles. And nowhere in the New Testament are Christians urged to say Yah, Yahweh, Yehovah, or Jehovah, since JESUS is the focus of the NT and God is always addressed as "the Father". While Christ's Hebrew name is Yeshua, the world must now know Him as the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet there are large numbers of Christians (including preachers) who speak only of "Jesus", and others only of Yeshua.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:36).

To be pedantic his name is Jesus bar Joseph.
Christ means anointed one and is a title.

How the name ispronounced is irrelevent as different languages will pronounce it differently. English is not the language of heaven, any more than Jesus was a blond blue eyed white man.
 

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As we do not know how to pronounce God's true name the argument becomes irrelevent.

For all you know the convention of using the vowels from adoni in yhwh could be total wrong.

In stressing that we MUST honour God's name above our duty to be obedient to his command you are running the risk of making honouring an unpronouncable name into a work.

Yes God's name is to be honoured. Not doing so is sin, sin has been dealt with through Jesus.

Honoring the name of God IS A COMMAND OF GOD,

Thou shall not take my name in vain.

You do not know the commands of God in his Torah.
 

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Honoring the name of God IS A COMMAND OF GOD,

Thou shall not take my name in vain.

You do not know the commands of God in his Torah.

I know that Jesus said, if you love me you will obey my commands.

Strange he spent his teaching stressing obedience to All of Gods laws not any one above the rest.
When he talked about salvation he was concerned about belief in him.

The Jews honour God's name, by not miss pronouncing it, but for all their respect for the name of God they do not know Jesus.
 

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I know that Jesus said, if you love me you will obey my commands.

Strange he spent his teaching stressing obedience to All of Gods laws not any one above the rest.
When he talked about salvation he was concerned about belief in him.

The Jews honour God's name, by not miss pronouncing it, but for all their respect for the name of God they do not know Jesus.

My teaching is not concerning discarding the other commands of God in favor of one command, it is about obeying all the commands of God, including the command to honor the name of God. Stop being obtuse and understand that honoring the name of God is also a command of God that must be obeyed. It must not only be used correctly in context, but also in pronunciation, because it is a name that is set apart from all other ordinary names, hence why it is called a "set-apart" name, which your translators render as "holy".
 

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My teaching is not concerning discarding the other commands of God in favor of one command, it is about obeying all the commands of God, including the command to honor the name of God. Stop being obtuse and understand that honoring the name of God is also a command of God that must be obeyed. It must not only be used correctly in context, but also in pronunciation, because it is a name that is set apart from all other ordinary names, hence why it is called a "set-apart" name, which your translators render as "holy".

And round we go in circles.
You want us/me to be respectfull of a name we do not know how to pronounce.
Can you not see how ludicrous this is.