Should Priests Get Married?

[Marymog]

Here's the site to the seminary:
SEMINARIO ARCIVESCOVILE DI LUCCA

There's something wrong with the list of serminarians because, for instance, Alex Martinelli has been a priest for about 3 or 4 years now and his name should not be on there.

The pix in the center of the yellow bldg is the seminary.
The first pix is of the Duomo of Lucca, San Martino.
And the last pix is of the chapel in the seminary.

Here is a news article about the seminary closing down because it was built for 300 but only 6 are attending right now. It's in Italian, you may be able to change the language...
Chiude il Seminario a Tre Cancelli - NoiTV

I've been there for conferences when I was doing catechism, it's a very beautiful facility in a beautiful place in Lucca.

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Thank you. We have plans to go to Rome in the next several years. I hope I am able to visit this place.

Mary

 

[Marymog]

There is more than one denomination that refers to their leaders as Priest's! gee-wiz Mary don't get a rash. I do Agree!!

Thank you for the clarification. And how can you disagree with me? ;) (that's a joke)

In all fairness when someone says "priest" it is common for the average person to think of Catholic...not ANY other denomination.

Secondly, add to that fact that the original post mentioned "seminaries" and "celibacy". Once again, it is common for one to think Catholic when those two words are mentioned together in a subject...not ANY other denomination.

Unless you can point me to a denomination that has priest that attend seminaries and are celibate?

Curious Mary

 

[GodsGrace]

Hi GG,

I apologize. I always preach about context and I failed to do that in this situation. Passage 1-7 should be in context with passages 32-34. To put it in even more context I would like to quote passage #38: So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better. I would also refer you to Matthew 19:9-12 for the whole of scripture on this matter.

You asked the question: Should priest get married?

The simple answer is: Priest CAN'T get married. The biggest thing to remember is that a man chooses to become a priest which means he chooses celibacy. It is not forced upon him. A priest can choose to leave the priesthood if he chooses to get married.....BTW....there are married Catholic priest.

Love...Mary

What I was wondering is if a priest should be allowed to get married, and also the scripture which would say that he shouldn't.

Mathew 19:9-12
In verse 8-9 Jesus is talking about how Moses allowed men to put away thier wives with certificate of divorce and how this is not what God meant from the beginning but due to the hardness of their hearts.

In verse 10 the disciples are saying that then it must be better to never marry since the rules for divorce are so strict.

In verses 11 and 12 Jesus is telling them that some men are born eunichs, some become eunichs as was the custom in those days for different reasons (for instance, in order to serve the state) and there were eunichs which which made themselves so (vow to chastity) for the sake of Heaven. Jesus said "He who is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Jesus' last remark referes to the last of the group, and the understanding is that few would be in that group.

Levitical priests were allowed to get married to women of their own tribe.
So priests of today would fall under Mathew 9:12?

 

[Marymog]

What I was wondering is if a priest should be allowed to get married, and also the scripture which would say that he shouldn't.

In verse 8-9 Jesus is talking about how Moses allowed men to put away thier wives with certificate of divorce and how this is not what God meant from the beginning but due to the hardness of their hearts.

In verse 10 the disciples are saying that then it must be better to never marry since the rules for divorce are so strict.

In verses 11 and 12 Jesus is telling them that some men are born eunichs, some become eunichs as was the custom in those days for different reasons (for instance, in order to serve the state) and there were eunichs which which made themselves so (vow to chastity) for the sake of Heaven. Jesus said "He who is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Jesus' last remark referes to the last of the group, and the understanding is that few would be in that group.

Levitical priests were allowed to get married to women of their own tribe.
So priests of today would fall under Mathew 9:12?

Hi GG,

I think you are too caught up on should priest be ALLOWED to get married or not. Think of it this way: When you sign a contract you agree to the conditions of the contract. No one is forcing you to sign the contract. You do it of your own free will. You agree to abide by the rules of the contract. The decision to buy a car or house and sign a contract is done sometimes within days. You are allowed to change your mind and not sign the contract. If you choose to sign it you do it of your own free will. These men have many YEARS before seminary and while in seminary to decide if they want to be celibate. They are ALLOWED to change their mind. No one is forcing them.

Another example: If you join a club you can't tell the club to change the membership rules because you don't like the rules. If you don't like the rules then quit the club and start your own club with your own rules.

I think the vow of celibacy is a beautiful thing. The Catholic Church does not contest that scripture says in plain language "priest must be celibate". That is why there are married Catholic Priest.

I do not understand how your Matthew 9:12 question pertains to this subject.

Respectfully.......Mary

 

[GodsGrace]

Hi GG,

I think you are too caught up on should priest be ALLOWED to get married or not. Think of it this way: When you sign a contract you agree to the conditions of the contract. No one is forcing you to sign the contract. You do it of your own free will. You agree to abide by the rules of the contract. The decision to buy a car or house and sign a contract is done sometimes within days. You are allowed to change your mind and not sign the contract. If you choose to sign it you do it of your own free will. These men have many YEARS before seminary and while in seminary to decide if they want to be celibate. They are ALLOWED to change their mind. No one is forcing them.

Another example: If you join a club you can't tell the club to change the membership rules because you don't like the rules. If you don't like the rules then quit the club and start your own club with your own rules.

I think the vow of celibacy is a beautiful thing. The Catholic Church does not contest that scripture says in plain language "priest must be celibate". That is why there are married Catholic Priest.

I do not understand how your Matthew 9:12 question pertains to this subject.

Respectfully.......Mary

The CC must have based this idea on something.
What, I wonder?
Catholic priests that are married used to be Anglican, maybe. Or maybe Eastern. I'm not sure.

Mathew 9:12 was brought up by you. It does pertain to this because priests are, in effect, voluntary eunichs.

The reason I'm interested in this?
I know priests who do not consider marriage at all, and I know priests who would like to be married as they get on in years.
And I also know OF a priest that got married and had to leave the priesthood.
It just seems like too much to put a person through.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Catholics don't worship Mary - so you've been exposed for lying.
Try again, sparky . . .

A little advice:
If you spent as much time doing some actual research as you do changing your avatar - you might get something right for a change . . .

Hey Breadman,
everytime a romanist says the rosary, they are worshiping Mary.
Do you do the rosary?
Then you are a Mary worshiper.
Hey everyone, Breadman is a Mary worshiper.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

The CC must have based this idea on something.
What, I wonder?
Catholic priests that are married used to be Anglican, maybe. Or maybe Eastern. I'm not sure.

Mathew 9:12 was brought up by you. It does pertain to this because priests are, in effect, voluntary eunichs.

The reason I'm interested in this?
I know priests who do not consider marriage at all, and I know priests who would like to be married as they get on in years.
And I also know OF a priest that got married and had to leave the priesthood.
It just seems like too much to put a person through.

Lots of priests have life long homo relations with people
they even have conventions every year.

 

[GodsGrace]

Lots of priests have life long homo relations with people
they even have conventions every year.

What?
Conventions!
Run-away priests.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hey Breadman,
everytime a romanist says the rosary, they are worshiping Mary.
Do you do the rosary?
Then you are a Mary worshiper.
Hey everyone, Breadman is a Mary worshiper.

YOU just prayed to m. by asking me a question. That's what "Pray" means, Einstein.
Are you worshiping me??

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

oh Breakman, I pray, disappear, please, disappear.......

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lots of priests have life long homo relations with people
they even have conventions every year.

I see you're still having "mommy and daddy" issues.
You should seek some professional help for that . . .

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

What?
Conventions!
Run-away priests.

All over this country baby, big time, but quiet about it

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I see you're still having "mommy and daddy" issues.
You should seek some professional help for that . . .

Oh Breadman, will you take me into your confidence and teach me the true romanist way?

 

[BreadOfLife]

oh Breakman, I pray, disappear, please, disappear.......

Nope - I'm here to show everybody how dishonest you are.
YOU'RE here to show everybody that you need help . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

All over this country baby, big time, but quiet about it

How old are you anyway.
My guess is about 16 - MAYBE 17 . . .

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Nope - I'm here to show everybody how dishonest you are.
YOU'RE here to show everybody that you need help . . .

Lol,Let's have a dual with swords.
I'll be Errol Flynn and you can be Basil Rathbone.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

How old are you anyway.
My guess is about 16 - MAYBE 17 . . .

Why are you hung up on age?
If you happen to be one year older than me, would that make you right and me wrong?

 

[GodsGrace]

oh Breakman, I pray, disappear, please, disappear.......

Does Barb come to mind?

 

[GodsGrace]

Lol,Let's have a dual with swords.
I'll be Errol Flynn and you can be Basil Rathbone.

What about Douglas Fairbanks?
Or even DF Jr.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

What about Douglas Fairbanks?
Or even DF Jr.

nah!
No match for Errol