Another refinery closed in California which will cause more expensive fuel and maybe long lines for gas

[Scott Downey]

Valero says the state has made it impossible to continue

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[JohnDB]

Valero says the state has made it impossible to continue

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My grandfather was an electrician and helped wire up the Benicia refinery 50 years ago....it was "shell" refinery at the time. It's seen many fires and explosions since. It's also expanded and increased production capabilities.

It's a shame that they are closing it.

California is in trouble in the worst ways. Specifically energy. They don't have enough for the amount of people living there. And now they don't have the fuel to leave either.

They buy most of Texas's electricity....and Texas used to have an overabundance of electricity. Now it's all transmitted to CA. Because California won't build any power plants, they cut off the water so they won't have farming and have been closing family Farms.

So....what's gonna happen to Sonoma Valley? No more avocados, lettuce, grapes, and soon Citrus. I remember when they used to grow everything....from cotton to soybeans and of course tomatoes, corn, wheat, and flowers. The orchards were once some of the finest around. Trees loaded with blooms and then fruit. Walnuts, olives, and almonds too

California is one of the largest states with some of the most fertile soil around. And since now they are going to be shipping in more gasoline....it's going to be too expensive to visit. $6/gal gas is going to be a pipe dream....more like $20/gal.

Now it's a disaster zone with the homeless, crime, riots, and generally inflated prices of everything. $5/vending machine sodas....no thank you.

I remember when Fisherman's Warf had awesome seafood restaurants, seafood shops, local produce stands and great sourdough everywhere. These days you need armed security guards to go shopping. It's not safe. Oakland was the armpit of the state....and the Raiders football team had patches on their eye because they walked to practice.
then there were the racetracks everywhere....amateur racing was really popular.....That was in the '70's....
My old house is now a "mansion" and over a million dollars because it's a luxury neighborhood Ha! Sold it for $44k back in 77.

It isn't that way anymore.

 

[Scott Downey]

My grandfather was an electrician and helped wire up the Benicia refinery 50 years ago....it was "shell" refinery at the time. It's seen many fires and explosions since. It's also expanded and increased production capabilities.

It's a shame that they are closing it.

California is in trouble in the worst ways. Specifically energy. They don't have enough for the amount of people living there. And now they don't have the fuel to leave either.

They buy most of Texas's electricity....and Texas used to have an overabundance of electricity. Now it's all transmitted to CA. Because California won't build any power plants, they cut off the water so they won't have farming and have been closing family Farms.

So....what's gonna happen to Sonoma Valley? No more avocados, lettuce, grapes, and soon Citrus. I remember when they used to grow everything....from cotton to soybeans and of course tomatoes, corn, wheat, and flowers. The orchards were once some of the finest around. Trees loaded with blooms and then fruit. Walnuts, olives, and almonds too

California is one of the largest states with some of the most fertile soil around. And since now they are going to be shipping in more gasoline....it's going to be too expensive to visit. $6/gal gas is going to be a pipe dream....more like $20/gal.

Now it's a disaster zone with the homeless, crime, riots, and generally inflated prices of everything. $5/vending machine sodas....no thank you.

I remember when Fisherman's Warf had awesome seafood restaurants, seafood shops, local produce stands and great sourdough everywhere. These days you need armed security guards to go shopping. It's not safe. Oakland was the armpit of the state....and the Raiders football team had patches on their eye because they walked to practice.
then there were the racetracks everywhere....amateur racing was really popular.....That was in the '70's....
My old house is now a "mansion" and over a million dollars because it's a luxury neighborhood Ha! Sold it for $44k back in 77.

It isn't that way anymore.

In 2019 I was in Eugene Oregon to visit my daughter, and we went on an exploratory road trip mostly stayed in Oregon.
But one day we went into California to see the giant trees. Beautiful country in Oregan and California. Also drove north into Washington which was largely rural and undeveloped land. Gas in Oregon was arounf $3.50, but California gas was over $5.

Took loads of scenic pictures with videos along the coast. See for yourself some amazing vistas. We had rented a car, but they gave us a new ram truck instead as the car was unavailable.
Starts out with the plane ride and then their house in Eugene, and then on the road all over the entire region, Crater Lake, Mt Hood. Bend Oregon, Yachats. I walked way out in Yachats on the rocks at low tide and got video of the ocean roiling into the rocks

Oregon Coastal trip 2019 to see Jessica

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[Scott Downey]

Yachats
Like this, normally this is under water

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This is as far out as you can go at low tide

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[Truth7t7]

In 2019 I was in Eugene Oregon to visit my daughter, and we went on an exploratory road trip mostly stayed in Oregon.
But one day we went into California to see the giant trees. Beautiful country in Oregan and California. Also drove north into Washington which was largely rural and undeveloped land. Gas in Oregon was arounf $3.50, but California gas was over $5.

Took loads of scenic pictures with videos along the coast. See for yourself some amazing vistas. We had rented a car, but they gave us a new ram truck instead as the car was unavailable.
Starts out with the plane ride and then their house in Eugene, and then on the road all over the entire region, Crater Lake, Mt Hood. Bend Oregon, Yachats. I walked way out in Yachats on the rocks at low tide and got video of the ocean roiling into the rocks

Oregon Coastal trip 2019 to see Jessica

1188 new items added to shared album

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Sounds familiar, me and the wife did the Oregon/Washington loop 3 yrs ago for 10 days, I like Oregon just not Portland, didn't like the vibe in Seattle either

Airport to Hood River, Bend, Eugene, Newport, Astoria, Gig Harbor, Seattle, Portland to Airport, the ride across the mountain from Bend to Eugene was a post card picture at every turn, lakes, trees, beautiful

Oregon Coast is a fraction of the cost as compared to Calif, Yachats, Coos Bay, Newport, Lakeside, Depot Bay are affordable, $400,000 in Newport would easily be $2 Million in Calif, Coos Bay is like 35% less than Newport

 

[Scott Downey]

Sounds familiar, me and the wife did the Oregon/Washington loop 3 yrs ago for 10 days, I like Oregon just not Portland, didn't like the vibe in Seattle either

Airport to Hood River, Bend, Eugene, Newport, Astoria, Gig Harbor, Seattle, Portland to Airport, the ride across the mountain from Bend to Eugene was a post card picture at every turn, lakes, trees, beautiful

Oregon Coast is a fraction of the cost as compared to Calif, Yachats, Coos Bay, Newport, Lakeside, Depot Bay are affordable, $400,000 in Newport would easily be $2 Million in Calif, Coos Bay is like 35% less than Newport

We were there for a full 2 weeks.
We just dipped in California for the day.

We saw some amazing waterfalls, and you can up very close.

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[Truth7t7]

We were there for a full 2 weeks.
We just dipped in California for the day.

We saw some amazing waterfalls, and you can up very close.

New video by Scott Downey

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Yeah Multnomah Falls, we checked out all the falls on the Columbia hwy on our way to Hood River after leaving the Portland airport on the 1st day beautiful