If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

[soberxp]

Beware the cisterns of men and their tables of dainty breads .
For within those cisterns lies bright golden waters
and upon their tables are scattered many chocolate colored breads .
But what they who do eat of and drink of those cisterns and those tables realize not
IS that aint golden cause its lemonade
and them breads aint brown cause its chocolate
but rather its the wee and dung doctrines of men that are rotted and foul
and have been shined up to look real nice and good .
But one sniff of them and the sheep are like NO WAY folks that is doo and that is wee and we no drinky that .

I don't know if the book of Enoch is true, but I think it makes some sense,
It's not impossible for unbelievers to get together in the future and relearn God's Word, but I think God can do it.
Hell seems to be a thirsty place, thirsty people want to drink water, then who is the water? Isn't it Jesus Christ?
So what do you think?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Well, here is your first misunderstand and false truth. I am sure I will find many more



I take you to romans 11

THEY (Israel) Are hated because of the gospel - they are blinded in part. they believe and have rejected their messiah

They are beloved because of the promise, The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable

You see./ God gave them an eternal promise.

eternity has not ended yet )or at least this earth has not been destroyed yet) so the promise still stands.

We already covered Romans 11 earlier in the thread — didn’t you and I already walk through that?

And you’re still using it like it erases everything Jesus said in John 8?

Let’s be clear: Romans 11 doesn't cancel the words of Christ.
It doesn't reverse John 8:44, where Jesus flat-out says:

“You are of your father the devil.”

Paul wasn’t giving unbelieving Israel a theological free pass — he was grieving over their rejection of Christ and warning Gentile believers not to become arrogant. The “gifts and calling” of God remain in Christ alone — not in Talmudic blasphemy and covenant-breaking.


The whole point of Romans 11 is that they were broken off because of unbelief, and can only be grafted back in if they do not persist in that unbelief.

So unless the Sanhedrin held a secret baptism we don’t know about, that door is still closed to those who deny the Son.

Jesus said:

“He who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”
— Luke 10:16

So respectfully: quoting Romans 11 out of context to defend a Christ-rejecting religion won’t save it.

God’s promise still stands — in Christ.
Not in Jerusalem. Not in genealogy. And definitely not in a future Third Temple built for the Antichrist.

And let’s be honest — the only reason you're still clinging to this version of Romans 11 is because Scofield and Darby baked it into the foundation of your theology. You were taught that national Israel is still central to God's plan, even after rejecting the Messiah — but that’s not what the New Testament actually teaches.

That’s what Dispensationalism teaches. A doctrine invented in the 1800s, bankrolled by the elite, and handed to the American church like candy laced with arsenic.

Jesus already told us:

“The Kingdom will be taken from you and given to a nation producing its fruits.”
— Matthew 21:43

That already happened.
The true Israel isn’t a plot of land. It’s not a bloodline.
It’s the Body of Christ.

If they return to Christ, they can be grafted back in — Paul said that.
But until then? They are broken off.
Not “partially loved,” not “spiritually on hold” — broken off.

And if your theology tells you to bless and defend people who curse Christ and wait for another messiah?

Then your theology isn't from the apostles.
It’s from the synagogue of Satan.

 

[Chrysostomos]

The Book of Enoch is hidden because it says that all people can be saved, but the believers are together, the unbelievers are together.

1, Among Orthodox Christians, the Book of Enoch is not hidden by anyone. On the contrary, it is actively discussed, sold in church shops, and frequently found on Orthodox websites in electronic form among the texts of "Tradition." We Orthodox do not reject Tradition, unlike Protestants, who rejected all Tradition, including the Book of Enoch and another 10 deuterocanonical books from the Septuagint. It is the Protestants who excluded these texts from their canon, following the Jewish Tanakh, and then astonishingly accuse Catholics and Orthodox of supposedly "hiding" the Book of Enoch. This is absurd!

2, Regarding your claim that the Book of Enoch says that "all people can be saved, but believers are together, unbelievers are together," this does not align with the text. Nowhere in the Book of Enoch does it say that all people will be saved. On the contrary, it clearly describes a division between the righteous and the wicked. For example, in 1 Enoch 38:1 it states: "When the righteous are saved, then the wicked will be judged and perish in the presence of the righteous." In 1 Enoch 45:2 it emphasizes that "the elect and righteous will live before the Lord forever, while the wicked will be destroyed." And in 1 Enoch 54:1-6, it describes how the wicked and fallen angels "will be confined in a fiery abyss" for punishment. There are no indications that all will be saved or that believers and unbelievers will be "together"; the text underscores an eternal separation.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Alright, I’m off to work. I’ll be back for more high-octane, unredacted, seminary-level Sunday School later. No juice boxes, just Judgment.

 

[David in NJ]

One thing I learned...His coming is not how it is commonly thought. Jesus warned us ahead of time:

Luk 17:20-24

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.


Mat 24:23-27

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Do not forget His Promise, His Faithfullness and the FIRST RESURRECTION = Gospel and Matthew chapter 24

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

4And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.


“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[David in NJ]

The narrow gate is every word that Jesus Christ gave to us,and obey to the word.

Question #1 - How many words must be obeyed before the narrow gate opens?

Question #2 - Which comes first, the narrow road/path or the narrow gate?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We already covered Romans 11 earlier in the thread — didn’t you and I already walk through that?

since that was my first response. It was not me

And you’re still using it like it erases everything Jesus said in John 8?

I just stated what Paul said. it does not erase everything God promised in the OT

Nothing in John 8 contradicts romans 11. That All israel will (not might) be saved at a particular time (when the fulness of the gentiles has come to completion) because they (livig children of Israel at that time) repent.

Let’s be clear: Romans 11 doesn't cancel the words of Christ.
It doesn't reverse John 8:44, where Jesus flat-out says:

“You are of your father the devil.”

Paul wasn’t giving unbelieving Israel a theological free pass — he was grieving over their rejection of Christ and warning Gentile believers not to become arrogant. The “gifts and calling” of God remain in Christ alone — not in Talmudic blasphemy and covenant-breaking.

See. Typical rant of someone who does not understand what he is arguing against.

If you read my post. you would see. israel is blinded in part (these blind jews are lost. they are enemies of the gospel. and they are of their father the devil)

The whole point of Romans 11 is that they were broken off because of unbelief, and can only be grafted back in if they do not persist in that unbelief.

I never said otherwise.. Try listening with open eyes

So unless the Sanhedrin held a secret baptism we don’t know about, that door is still closed to those who deny the Son.

Jesus said:

“He who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”
— Luke 10:16

It has been this way from Adam, it continues until this day. It does not matter if you are jew or gentile. If you reject God, God will reject you.

it is obvious you do not understand dispensationalism. You tend to be of the belief we are dual covenant. we are not ..

So respectfully: quoting Romans 11 out of context to defend a Christ-rejecting religion won’t save it.

Respectfully. Misrepresenting what I said will get you no where

God’s promise still stands — in Christ.

Amen, never said otherwise

Not in Jerusalem. Not in genealogy. And definitely not in a future Third Temple built for the Antichrist.

God promise to David is HE will rule in Jerusalem.

But this has nothing to do with anyone's salvation.

The OY prophets say God will bring Judah and Israel back together in the land. and make them one. and he will rule

But again, this does nto determin anyones salvation.

Your making the mistake of making it a salovation issue when it is not.

And let’s be honest — the only reason you're still clinging to this version of Romans 11 is because Scofield and Darby baked it into the foundation of your theology. You were taught that national Israel is still central to God's plan, even after rejecting the Messiah — but that’s not what the New Testament actually teaches.

Lets be serious. The foundation of my theology is CHrist.

YOU on the other hand, have been fed a bunch of lies. and you take them as gospel truth. and you have just spen a whole post of sayign things as if I believe them when I do not

That’s what Dispensationalism teaches. A doctrine invented in the 1800s, bankrolled by the elite, and handed to the American church like candy laced with arsenic.

Yawn, Whatever dude

Take your antisemeitsm elsewhere.

Your theology was invented by the catholic church.

Jesus already told us:

“The Kingdom will be taken from you and given to a nation producing its fruits.”
— Matthew 21:43

That already happened.
The true Israel isn’t a plot of land. It’s not a bloodline.
It’s the Body of Christ.

If they return to Christ, they can be grafted back in — Paul said that.
But until then? They are broken off.
Not “partially loved,” not “spiritually on hold” — broken off.

And if your theology tells you to bless and defend people who curse Christ and wait for another messiah?

Then your theology isn't from the apostles.
It’s from the synagogue of Satan.

Gods promise to Israel (not salvic) was that he gave them a plot of land an an ETERNAL INHERITANCE

In Lev 26, He said how they can enjoy that land.

If you obey, I will bless you

and how they will be cursed if they do not obey

If you disobey, I will curse you. seven curses he gave, the final being he will destroy their high places and their cites. Destroy them, scatter them all over the gentile world. and he will not hear them anymore

This happened three times in history

1. Assyria destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel. (they have never been brought back into the land)
2. Babylon destroyed Judah (it remained desolate through Babylon and media Persia. they were temporarily allowed back into the land under Artaxerxes. according to Dan 9 - But they still were under Gods punishment)
3. AD 70 when Titus and his armies surrounded Jerusalem as Jesus said they would in Luke, and the land has remained desolate till this day, Just like Lev 26 and Dan 9 said it would

But remember, it is an ETERNAL covenant.. If they repent. Just like God said in Lev 26 (Daniel tried to do this in the first part of Dan 9) then God promised. he will remember the eland, and the covenant with the fathers

It has nothing to do with jews today or tomorrow./ G9ods promise was to their father and it was an eternal covenant. If God breaks his promise to them. God is a liar and not a keeper of promises.. No one should trust him


when your ready to sit down and really talk prophesy and history and covenants, let me know

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Alright, I’m off to work. I’ll be back for more high-octane, unredacted, seminary-level Sunday School later. No juice boxes, just Judgment.

You can't judge people when your thinking is flawed my friend.

And even if you did know it and understand correctly. Coming in and boasting how you will set everyone straight does not look good on you. It makes you look arrogant. and puffed up.

But if thats how you want to be. So be it

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know if the book of Enoch is true, but I think it makes some sense,
It's not impossible for unbelievers to get together in the future and relearn God's Word, but I think God can do it.
Hell seems to be a thirsty place, thirsty people want to drink water, then who is the water? Isn't it Jesus Christ?
So what do you think?

I think its time . And when i say time i mean high time
we got back to the basics .
IF JESUS said it
GOD said it
AND THUS whether or not we understand it all , JUST BELEIVE what HE SAID .
And HE DID say
WOE UNTO THEE it will be far worse for you than ever it was for sodom on the day of judgment .
Cause Well if one rejects JESUS as the CHRIST , AS THE MIGHTY SON OF GOD
ITWILL be far worse for them than ever it was for any .
A far worse , a far sorer punishment awaits those WHO TROD CHRIST UNDER FOOT .
even paul knew that . IF a man could die under the law with two or three witnesses
OH ME and OH MY how much WORSE a punishemnt awaits those WHO REJECTED JESUS THE CHRIST .
But i have good news
rather than us trying to down tone hells fire and destruction
WHY not rather GIVE AN ALL OUT LAST DITCH EFFORT to this geneartion
TO REMIND THEM , HEY ALL YA NEED DO IS BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST . cause the last time i checked
NOT a sheep one is damned . We need to quit adding too or taking from
What GOD said . cause if this generation keeps doing that
WELL PREPARE one and prepare all WHO DID SO , to find themselves wailing at their end .
I say if its in the scripture , HEY , JUST BELIEVE IT .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know if the book of Enoch is true, but I think it makes some sense,
It's not impossible for unbelievers to get together in the future and relearn God's Word, but I think God can do it.
Hell seems to be a thirsty place, thirsty people want to drink water, then who is the water? Isn't it Jesus Christ?
So what do you think?

I think , yea rather I KNOW , IF JESUS SAID IT GOD SAID IT
And i sure didnt see the goats who even SAW HIM on HIS DAY
and TOLD HIM BUT LORD , thus they at that time KNEW HE WAS LORD ,
EVER GET A SECOND CHANCE . Now
lets ponder on that for a bit shall we .
I NEVER also seemed to see ANY MERCY shown towards the rich man
who wailed in the torments
YOU SEE ITS TOO LATE . ITS TOO LATE when once either THE SON OF MAN DOES COME
or when a man breathes his last .
EITHER ONE KNEW AND LOVED HIM AND WAS HIS
orthey was a goat who GONNA WAIL AND WAIL and WAIL and WAIL and wail on HIS Day .
BUT guess what
THE Solutoin sure was a simple one . Last time i checked I KNOW I DIDNT Deserve ETERNAL LIFE
in fact i was one of the worst .
NONE deserves it and NONE WHO REJECT JESUS AS THE CHRIST WILL RECIEVE IT EITHER .
SO what do i say
I SAY ITS TIME FOR US ALL to get back into the bible
read the gospels for our own selves
read the book of acts
read it all . AND YOU SEE WHO THEY PREACHED and what they all did unto those who failed to beleive on JESUS
YOU SEE how they viewed even sin within them churches .
AND guess what you are gonna see
WE ALL BEEN LIED TOO . A FALSE LOVE has come and many have loved that love
that has come OF SATAN HIMSELF to feed and to serve the flesh of man
TO ENSURE HE REMAINS IN DEATH and DIES THE SECOND DEATH . oh satan dont love ya .
HE dont .
HE DONT love the gays
HE DONT love anyone .
SO HE gonna convince them all , as well as the false religoins , as well as many within even christendom
OF A LIE . cause from the beginning all he has ever desired was THE DEATH OF MAN .
THAT IS WHY and its the ONLY REASON he tempted eve to eat of that tree . WASNT CAUSE HE LOVED HER
it was cause he wanted and desired the death of them .
I SUGGEST WE PREACH THE SECOND adam , THE ONE WHO CAN SAVE
and all of HIS LOVELY WORDS as well .

 

[soberxp]

I think , yea rather I KNOW , IF JESUS SAID IT GOD SAID IT
And i sure didnt see the goats who even SAW HIM on HIS DAY
and TOLD HIM BUT LORD , thus they at that time KNEW HE WAS LORD ,
EVER GET A SECOND CHANCE . Now
lets ponder on that for a bit shall we .
I NEVER also seemed to see ANY MERCY shown towards the rich man
who wailed in the torments
YOU SEE ITS TOO LATE . ITS TOO LATE when once either THE SON OF MAN DOES COME
or when a man breathes his last .
EITHER ONE KNEW AND LOVED HIM AND WAS HIS
orthey was a goat who GONNA WAIL AND WAIL and WAIL and WAIL and wail on HIS Day .
BUT guess what
THE Solutoin sure was a simple one . Last time i checked I KNOW I DIDNT Deserve ETERNAL LIFE
in fact i was one of the worst .
NONE deserves it and NONE WHO REJECT JESUS AS THE CHRIST WILL RECIEVE IT EITHER .
SO what do i say
I SAY ITS TIME FOR US ALL to get back into the bible
read the gospels for our own selves
read the book of acts
read it all . AND YOU SEE WHO THEY PREACHED and what they all did unto those who failed to beleive on JESUS
YOU SEE how they viewed even sin within them churches .
AND guess what you are gonna see
WE ALL BEEN LIED TOO . A FALSE LOVE has come and many have loved that love
that has come OF SATAN HIMSELF to feed and to serve the flesh of man
TO ENSURE HE REMAINS IN DEATH and DIES THE SECOND DEATH . oh satan dont love ya .
HE dont .
HE DONT love the gays
HE DONT love anyone .
SO HE gonna convince them all , as well as the false religoins , as well as many within even christendom
OF A LIE . cause from the beginning all he has ever desired was THE DEATH OF MAN .
THAT IS WHY and its the ONLY REASON he tempted eve to eat of that tree . WASNT CAUSE HE LOVED HER
it was cause he wanted and desired the death of them .
I SUGGEST WE PREACH THE SECOND adam , THE ONE WHO CAN SAVE
and all of HIS LOVELY WORDS as well .

You're right, but I don't know why the answer seems to be in my head. I'm not even sure I believe that all human beings will be saved.

I'm confused.

I couldn't tell if I was reading the Bible wrong or something else,

If death is due to adam, why not life because of the second Adam.

We know a little, we don't know a little, we just wait for the day to know completely.

 

[soberxp]

Question #1 - How many words must be obeyed before the narrow gate opens?

All the law including in Love others as ourself.

Question #2 - Which comes first, the narrow road/path or the narrow gate?

Love God with all our heart and mind.

 

[David in NJ]

You're right, but I don't know why the answer seems to be in my head. I'm not even sure I believe that all human beings will be saved.

I'm confused.

I couldn't tell if I was reading the Bible wrong or something else,

If death is due to adam, why not life because of the second Adam.

We know a little, we don't know a little, we just wait for the day to know completely.

Continue to pray when upon read the scriptures for it is God who Opens our understanding and not man.

SHALOM

 

[David in NJ]

All the law including in Love others as ourself.

Love God with all our heart and mind.

No one can be saved by the Law.
Romans 3:20 - Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

We can only be Saved by the Law of Christ, which is to believe His Gospel = Love God with all your heart mind, soul and strength

We are UNABLE to fulfill even the 1st Commandment of the TEN.
Therefore Christ came and fulfilled all TEN Commandments on our behalf.
Now we follow the LORD Jesus Christ and keep His Commandments = the Law of Christ

 

[soberxp]

1, Among Orthodox Christians, the Book of Enoch is not hidden by anyone. On the contrary, it is actively discussed, sold in church shops, and frequently found on Orthodox websites in electronic form among the texts of "Tradition." We Orthodox do not reject Tradition, unlike Protestants, who rejected all Tradition, including the Book of Enoch and another 10 deuterocanonical books from the Septuagint. It is the Protestants who excluded these texts from their canon, following the Jewish Tanakh, and then astonishingly accuse Catholics and Orthodox of supposedly "hiding" the Book of Enoch. This is absurd!

2, Regarding your claim that the Book of Enoch says that "all people can be saved, but believers are together, unbelievers are together," this does not align with the text. Nowhere in the Book of Enoch does it say that all people will be saved. On the contrary, it clearly describes a division between the righteous and the wicked. For example, in 1 Enoch 38:1 it states: "When the righteous are saved, then the wicked will be judged and perish in the presence of the righteous." In 1 Enoch 45:2 it emphasizes that "the elect and righteous will live before the Lord forever, while the wicked will be destroyed." And in 1 Enoch 54:1-6, it describes how the wicked and fallen angels "will be confined in a fiery abyss" for punishment. There are no indications that all will be saved or that believers and unbelievers will be "together"; the text underscores an eternal separation.

Anyway, that's what I read in the Book of Enoch, The believers will live together in one place, and the unbelievers will live together in one place.
I don't think I've got it wrong.I remember that because of it different from the Bible says.
I remember it says something about the fallen angels should praying for humans, not humans praying for them.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Anyway, that's what I read in the Book of Enoch, The believers will live together in one place, and the unbelievers will live together in one place.
I don't think I've got it wrong.I remember that because of it different from the Bible says.
I remember it says something about the fallen angels should praying for humans, not humans praying for them.

Allow me to clarify a few points based on the text.
You mentioned that the Book of Enoch says that “believers will live together in one place, and unbelievers will live together in another.” This is partially correct but requires clarification. The Book of Enoch indeed describes a division after the divine judgment: the righteous (believers) will live in the heavenly kingdom or on a renewed earth, as stated, for example, in 1 Enoch 38:1: “When the righteous are saved, then the wicked will be judged and perish in the presence of the righteous.” The wicked (unbelievers), however, according to the text, do not “live together” in some place—they are sent to punishment, for example, to the fiery abyss, as described in 1 Enoch 54:1-6: “And the angels who sinned will be confined in that place, and all the wicked, and those who led people astray, in eternal fire.” Thus, unbelievers do not “live” after the judgment; they face destruction or eternal punishment, not simply exist separately.

You correctly noted that the Book of Enoch differs from the Bible, but your claim that it says something different about salvation needs verification. Both the canonical Bible and the Book of Enoch agree that salvation is intended only for the righteous, not for all.

Regarding your suggestion that “fallen angels should pray for humans, not humans praying for them,”—this is not found in the Book of Enoch. On the contrary, the fallen angels (Watchers) themselves ask Enoch to pray for them and convey their pleas to God, but God rejects them, as stated in 1 Enoch 13:4-6: “And they said to Enoch: ‘Pray for us to the Lord.’ And I, Enoch, prayed for them, but the Lord said to me: ‘My mercy will not be for them.’” Nowhere does it say that fallen angels should pray for humans. This is likely your interpretation or a mistake.

It might be worth rereading key chapters, such as the “Book of the Watchers” and the “Book of Parables,” to ensure the accuracy of your recollections. If you have specific quotes that support your understanding, please share them, and we can discuss them in more detail.

 

[amigo de christo]

You're right, but I don't know why the answer seems to be in my head. I'm not even sure I believe that all human beings will be saved.

I'm confused.

I couldn't tell if I was reading the Bible wrong or something else,

If death is due to adam, why not life because of the second Adam.

We know a little, we don't know a little, we just wait for the day to know completely.

Yet if one believes not they remain under DEATH . not all will be saved , ONLY THOSE WHO BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
If you beleive NOT that I AM HE ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS .
Today most would have us believe ITS NOT NECESSARY to have had to have BELEIVED .
But always remember
WHO was right , the sepernt or GOD . the sepernt said SURELY YE SHALL NOT DIE
but GOD had said they would . GOD WAS RIGHT .
AND JESUS IS RIGHT . He warned and he warned of damnation unto all who BELIEVED Not on HIM .
For GOD so loved the world that HE DID send HIS only begotten SON .
Satan would have us to beleive that just because GOD DID , it dont mean one has to beleive
BUT THAT INAT WHAT JESUS said .
HE said so that ALL WHO DO BELEIVE would be saved , would have eternal life .
THE THING IS
HE said exactly WHO would be CONDEMEND and the ONLY CONDMENATION ONE HAS .
HE who BELEIVES is NOT CONDEMNED
but he who BELIEVES NOT IS CONDEMNED . that is real simple friend . REAL simple .

 

[amigo de christo]

Anyway, that's what I read in the Book of Enoch, The believers will live together in one place, and the unbelievers will live together in one place.
I don't think I've got it wrong.I remember that because of it different from the Bible says.
I remember it says something about the fallen angels should praying for humans, not humans praying for them.

we need to change a word .
so lets rewrite this .
THE beleivers will live together in one place , and the unbelievers WILL SUFFER together in one place .
AINT A GOOD ENDING AT ALL for the unbeleiver .

 

[amigo de christo]

No one can be saved by the Law.
Romans 3:20 - Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

We can only be Saved by the Law of Christ, which is to believe His Gospel = Love God with all your heart mind, soul and strength

We are UNABLE to fulfill even the 1st Commandment of the TEN.
Therefore Christ came and fulfilled all TEN Commandments on our behalf.
Now we follow the LORD Jesus Christ and keep His Commandments = the Law of Christ

The key to knowing whether one has the love of GOD
or whether its the love of the world claoked as though its the love of God
IS REAL SIMPLE .
WHAT DOES CHARITY , LOVE , REJOICE IN .
well the love of the world rejoices in sins and in inquity and in a lie
BUT THE LOVE OF GOD , well that REJOICES IN ..................
ready for it ......................lets give a drum roll shall we ...........................................................
IN THE TRUTH . and the last time i checked THE GOSPEL IS TRUTH , IN FACT every WORD OF GOD AND OF CHRIST
and INSPIRED OF GOD in that bible IS THE TRUTH .
why would any love that cometh of GOD twist such lovely words . AND The answer is , IT DONT
Satan does . HE SURE DO and many seem to love his worldy version of love
that sure has made the road to GOD very darn broad indeed . rejoicing in a love that says
ALL RELIGOINS serve the same GOD we do , rejocing in a FAT LIE that TRODS CHRIST RIGHT UNDER FOOT .
IT rejoices in certain sins , IT REJOICES IN THE BROAD PATH and REJECTS THE NARROW GATE .
GUESSS what that means . ITS A LIE and this sheep wont heed it PEROID but rather gonna keep on exposing the pile of dung for what it is
A LIE .

 

[amigo de christo]

No one can be saved by the Law.
Romans 3:20 - Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

We can only be Saved by the Law of Christ, which is to believe His Gospel = Love God with all your heart mind, soul and strength

We are UNABLE to fulfill even the 1st Commandment of the TEN.
Therefore Christ came and fulfilled all TEN Commandments on our behalf.
Now we follow the LORD Jesus Christ and keep His Commandments = the Law of Christ

the first man the first woman
and all ever since HAVE FAILED .
but the second adam PREVAILED . i offer up NO FALSE HOPE , NO FALSE LOVE to this world
and thus i expose satans interfiath all inclusvie dung pile co exist message For what it is , A LIE
and its love is of the world and its daddy is satan and its mama THE WHORE .
AND sheep dont feed from the table of satan and the cisterns of WHORES .
LETGOD be true and every man a liar
that ye may BE JUSTIFIED and may overcome when you are judged .
I have come and that by grace to one real simple solution .
AS GOD IS TRUTH , CHRIST IS TRUTH , HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH , HIS WORDS are TRUTH .
and anything that contradicts such lovely words , WONT BE A VOICE THIS SHEEP BE A HEEDING . march on david
MARCH ON IN THE LORD . MY MIND IS MADE UP . NO COMPROMISE . TO LIVE IS CHRIST TO DIE ISGAIN . AMEN .