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What is the "road to life"?
The road to life is described in Matt 7:13-14, if you’d like to explore it?
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.” (ESV)

What do we discern from Jesus’ words here? Are they complicated or hard to understand?

Contrasts were a big part of Jesus’ teachings.….so here we have two different paths, leading to two very different destinations, but the travelers on the wrong road imagine that they are on the right one, because they have so many on the journey with them. All these people can’t be wrong….can they? Even minor disagreements don’t count if you ignore them….right?

There is a gate…a narrow one…leading onto the right road, which is not like the other path, it is cramped and difficult to travel, whereas the gate onto the super highway is wide, so that the ”many” who are traveling it, do not find it difficult at all.

The outcome of people’s decisions as to which path they will choose, is stated a few verses later in Vs 21-23, which says….

”Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’“ (ESV)

Those who chose the road ‘well travelled‘ will not have the same outcome as those who took the “road less travelled.“ So those who chose the right road are in the minority….the majority are on a dead end road where there is a precipice awaiting them. Look at what they claimed…..was any of it real? Or did they only imagine that Jesus was their “Lord”? Were any of their activities or claims real to Jesus?

Were they shocked at his rejection? Why were they shocked?
 

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@Behold, since you have your fingers firmly in your ears and refuse to watch a video explaining the problem from a medical perspective, because it disagrees with your stated position, you have no right of reply.

Watch the video and then try sticking to your guns…..they are firing blanks.
 

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@Behold, since you have your fingers firmly in your ears

What i wanted was for the members who find your posts....and then mine.... to understand that you'll let your child die, based on a JW's
"crazy" doctrine that confuses "do not EAT blood" with having a Blood Transfusion.

You've proven it, and you were happy to prove it., in fact.

So, did you want to try to prove it some more with more of your posts ? ?.........I dont think you need to keep trying., you've arrived.
They'll believe you.
I certainly do.
 

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You can't explain it., i noticed.

U call it a road less traveled and so forth...

You have no idea what it is........no idea.
Again a post with absolutely no substance! Why do you bother….?

Are you a legend in your own lunchbox? Are you so fixated on your own view that you can afford to ignore the legitimate information that others present? Who said you are right?

Seriously, if you are a teacher of anyone…heaven help them.

Lets hear your explanation so that we can then give you the same kind of critique….in my experience, when you are pressed you run away. You are not pressed often because you ignore what does not agree with your own views. Fingers in your ears whistling Dixie…. :hmhehm
 

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What i wanted was for the members who find your posts....and then mine.... to understand that you'll let your child die, based on a JW's
"crazy" doctrine that confuses "do not EAT blood" with having a Blood Transfusion.

You've proven it, and you were happy to prove it., in fact.

So, did you want to try to prove it some more with more of your posts ? ?.........I dont think you need to keep trying., you've arrived.
They'll believe you.
I certainly do.
All you want to do is prove that you are right…it is ego driven…..what if the medical experts prove you wrong…are you afraid to even hear them out?
 

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Explain the "narrow gate" that is related to a person becoming a Christian, as you brought it up.

Dont dodge this also....
I’m sorry, but wasn’t it you who said I didn’t have a clue? You are supposedly the one who knows the answer, so the onus is on you. My post was to someone else with whom I was discussing this scripture…..the details were hopefully going to be discussed with someone who is not an ego maniac who has to be right by putting others down and pushing his own views as if they cannot be challenged.

So go ahead and tell us what the narrow gate is….and how a person finds it…..or are you dodging?
 

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All you want to do is prove that you are right…it is ego driven….

On a "christian" forum, its very important to highlight "CRAZY" theology.......that is "Satanic".
One of the reasons im on Most Christian Forums or have been, is to spotlight heresy that people teach, so that weak believers wont become "indoctrinated" and deceived for life.

So, you are teaching incredibly harmful heresy........when you try to lead members on the Forum, to avoid a blood Transfusion, that might save their life
Do you not realize that "eating Blood" that is defined in Acts 15 as "abstaining"...... is not the same as a Blood Transfusion?
You dont eat a blood transfusion.....
You realize this?

So, when i talk to you, here, my reason for doing it is to show the Members who are paying attention, what you believe that you have been taught by a deceiving group...... as that is the goal.

You try to defend trying to stop members on this Forum from having a Blood Transfusion, that could be the reason they stayed alive, had they not listened to you.
And you twist bible verses, into heretical theological insanity, to do it., as you have been taught.
 

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I’m sorry, but wasn’t it you who said I didn’t have a clue?

I said you dont have a clue, regarding explaining "the narrow Gate"., and i asked you to explain it, as you didnt even try in your post that used that phrase.

Now, several posts later, you have not explained it, and cant.
So, you will try to keep shifting and dodging......because you can't explain the very verse you posted.

See you there, in your next post @Aunty Jane

Or, you could dig out your commentaries or Google it.......and post that cut and paste for us.
Or you could post a video.....
 

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On a "christian" forum, its very important to highlight "CRAZY" theology.......that is "Satanic".
One of the reasons im on Most Christian Forums or have been, is to spotlight heresy that people teach, so that weak believers wont become "indoctrinated" and deceived for life.

So, you are teaching incredibly harmful heresy........when you try to lead members on the Forum, to avoid a blood Transfusion, that might save their life
Do you not realize that "eating Blood" that is defined in Acts 15 as "abstaining"...... is not the same as a Blood Transfusion?
You dont eat a blood transfusion.....
You realize this?

So, when i talk to you, here, my reason for doing it is to show the Members who are paying attention, what you believe that you have been taught by a deceiving group...... as that is the goal.

You try to defend trying to stop members on this Forum from having a Blood Transfusion, that could be the reason they stayed alive, had they not listened to you.
And you twist bible verses, into heretical theological insanity, to do it., as you have been taught.
People are not stupid if that is what you are inferring….if they have watched the video then they are more informed than you are. Did you never think for one moment that you could be wrong about this?

If only Jehovah’s Witnesses are following God’s directive, and it is because of them that doctors have observed the clear benefits in avoiding blood transfusions, then who is it that is teaching something harmful? I am merely presenting an alternative view….a valid medical one….but backed up by God’s law.

If it were not for JW’s sticking to God’s word, they never would have observed the benefits of not having someone else’s blood and DNA being put into them.

After the AIDS epidemic in the 80’s every way to transmit this disease was a violation of God’s law…..blood transfusions were found to be a problem, so they started to find ways to treat patients with alternatives. They used techniques that JW’s were already using, with great success.

You can’t stand the fact that you might be wrong, so you refuse to watch the video…that is your choice to remain ignorant…..a lot of doctors don’t want to know the truth either. It’s so easy to just give their patients blood……but it is no guarantee that it will save them…..the video proves that it is often the cause of death or complications after surgery and in trauma cases. (What do the words ”morbidity” and “mortality” mean?)

Sticking to outdated medical practice in spite of the evidence, shows practitioner bias as they don’t want to be seen as the cause of someone’s death when they were trying to save them.….but that is more about egos than saving lives.
 

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I said you dont have a clue, regarding explaining "the narrow Gate"., and i asked you to explain it, as you didnt even try in your post that used that phrase.

Now, several posts later, you have not explained it, and cant.
So, you will try to keep shifting and dodging......because you can't explain the very verse you posted.
I was having a conversation with someone else…out of courtesy I will await his reply….you butted in uninvited. I owe you nothing. My explanation will be as clear as I can make it…..but it will be to him, not you.
 

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People are not stupid if that is what you are inferring….if they have watched the video then they are more informed than you are. Did you never think for one moment that you could be wrong about this?

Is it not "stupid"...to let your children die, because of a demonic cult that has misused OT verses, that speak about Pagan Heathens who drank blood?
Its actually CRIMINAL to do that....and people who do it should be subjected to a Jury, and Prison, or put in a "institutional" confinement situation for say, 40 yrs.
See, withholding known and decades proven life saving treatment, when someone needs it, is a Sadistic Criminal Act., and nothing less.
And trying to lead Christians to do this to themselves or their family, as you are doing.........is a serious offense against them.

So, as i told you. You are trying to cause people on this forum to avoid something that might save their lives or their family members, because a CULT has taught you something that you have adopted, that is based on twisting scriptures.

I have also explained to you, that i have worked in Health Care.
I understand Transfusions.......I understand LIFE SAVING Techniques....i know the benefit.
The benefit is that a person gets to keep on living and their family does not have to put them cold and dead and stiff... in a box... and sit there with a broken heart, tears streaming.... while this box is lowered into the ground.

You are trying to cause this......here, on the forum.......by presenting false theology, against a proven life saving option for them, should they need it.
And now you want to play the victim, because i have allowed you to show yourself, as YOU revealed The Cult that Mind trained you.
 
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Don't worry, Chinese scientists have extracted human protein serum from rice to replace human blood products, safe and pollution-free.
 
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Is it not "stupid"...to let your children die, because of a demonic cult that has misused OT verses, that speak about Pagan Heathens who drank blood?
Its actually CRIMINAL to do that....and people who do it should be subjected to a Jury, and Prison, or put in a confinement situation for say, 40 yrs.
See, withholding known life saving treatment, when someone needs it, is a Sadistic Criminal Act., and nothing less.
And trying to lead Christians to do this to themselves or their family, as you are doing.........is a serious offense against them.

So, as i told you. You are trying to cause people on this forum to avoid something that might save their lives or their family members, because a CULT has taught you something that you have adopted, that is based on twisting scriptures.

I have also explained to you, that i have worked in Health Care.
I understand Transfusions.......I understand LIFE SAVING Techniques....i know the benefit.
The benefit is that a person gets to keep on living and their family does not have to put them cold and dead and stiff... in a box... and sit there with a broken heart while this box is lowered into the ground.

You are trying to cause this......here, on the forum.......by presenting false theology, against a life saving option for them, should they need it.
Just watch the video as I am sure the readers have done since it is from well respected medical experts in the field….are you an expert ? If you haven’t watched the video, it’s because you’re afraid to….

Do you really think that these well respected doctors around the world would be warning about a procedure they believed was life saving? They were told it was, but at the turn of this century, they began to waver on this issue…..and the concerned doctors responded by using methods that had been formerly applied to JW patents…..and later, whole hospitals were devoted to non blood management of their patients. Were they too misinformed?
We are not “anti doctors” or “anti medicine”…. We just want medical treatment that does not violate our conscience.

If those who watched the video, now know what you refuse to believe, then what else do you believe that isn’t true? Your credibility is looking a bit shaky at this point….

I have also explained to you, that i have worked in Health Care.
So have a lot of doctors, all trained by basically the same medical establishment….so what?
I understand Transfusions.......I understand LIFE SAVING Techniques....i know the benefit.
You think you do. Watch the video.
The benefit is that a person gets to keep on living and their family does not have to put them in a box and sit there with a broken heart.
Good grief!! Emotional blackmail again!
What if the transfusion kills them….or leads to unnecessary complications….what are you promoting because “you can’t handle the truth! “ ?
 

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Don't worry, Chinese scientists have extracted human protein serum from rice to replace human blood products, safe and pollution-free.
It’s good to know that safer alternatives are being made available.
 

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Open your eyes. Pray. Search the scriptures. Look within and ask the Spirit of Truth to show you what man has hidden. You are the chosen ones of God—not by blood, but by faith. You are the "Israel that must be defended". Not a flag. Not a nation. But the Body of Christ. For it is written: “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29). Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel (Romans 9:6), and we who worship by the Spirit of God are the true circumcision (Philippians 3:3). God’s covenant was never about race—it was always about grace. Christ tore down the dividing wall and made one new man in place of the two (Ephesians 2:14–16). There is no other Israel outside of Him.

My God in heaven—help them wake up. Break the spell. Tear the veil. Let them finally see. I pray this in Your holy name—Amen.
 

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@The Gospel of Christ, it isn’t common knowledge among those who profess “Christianity” that there are two ”Israels”…..ones who descended from Abraham, whom John B told were putting too much store by their relationship to this much revered forefather…..(Matt 3:7-10) and “the Israel of God” (Gal 6:16) who were both Jewish and gentile disciples of Jesus Christ….very different groups of people.

The Bible is so clear about the distinction, but some just cannot see it….and will go on supporting ‘national Israel’ in the mistaken notion that this people will somehow all repent and come to Christ at the end……they are as blood thirsty as those with whom they are allied…..nations whose worship they despise.
If God was with them, no power could be against them…..their alliances prove that God is not supporting them.

The body of Christ will never be destroyed by anyone….
On one occasion, when the Jews demanded a sign from Jesus, he replied: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews thought he was speaking of the temple building, but the apostle John explains: “He was talking about the temple of his body.” (John 2:18-22)

Paul also added….”Do you not know that you people are God’s temple, and that the spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] you people are.” (1 Cor 3:16-17)

It is not just our prayers that will help these ones, but our actively getting Christ’s message out to them, as Jesus instructed…..knowing that “few” will respond….for the sake of the few, we keep going. Time is of the essence, as the day of reckoning draws closer.
 

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Christians are not second-class citizens in God’s kingdom—they are the very fulfillment of His covenant (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8). The Church is not some divine afterthought or parenthesis in prophecy—it is the blood-bought promise, born of the cross and sealed by the Spirit (Ephesians 2:14–16). The true heirs of Abraham are not found in Tel Aviv, but in Christ alone. And those who deny the Son—no matter what lineage they claim—do not know the Father (1 John 2:23, John 8:42–44). This is not opinion; it is the Word of God. Yet modern Christianity, poisoned by Scofield’s heresy, now grovels before a nation that rejects Christ and dares to call it obedience. This is not faithfulness. This is betrayal. This is apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3). The Church has been bewitched (Galatians 3:1), seduced into defending those who mock the cross, while forsaking her own inheritance. The Body of Christ must rise, cast off the veil (2 Corinthians 3:14–16), expose the blasphemy (Revelation 2:9; 3:9), and reclaim its identity as the true Israel—chosen not by bloodline, but by the blood of the Lamb (Revelation 7:14).
 

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You speak of….
a nation that rejects Christ and dares to call it obedience. This is not faithfulness. This is betrayal. This is apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3).
I agree….national Israel has nothing to be proud of, any more that her disobedient forebears. Faithful men of the pre-Christian era had a great example to leave them, but they did not follow it.
The Church has been bewitched (Galatians 3:1), seduced into defending those who mock the cross, while forsaking her own inheritance. The Body of Christ must rise, cast off the veil (2 Corinthians 3:14–16), expose the blasphemy (Revelation 2:9; 3:9), and reclaim its identity as the true Israel—chosen not by bloodline, but by the blood of the Lamb (Revelation 7:14).
The question remains in the minds of many…..who are the real “body of Christ”?
How are they identified in today’s world of religious confusion, and how do people locate them to join in promoting Bible truth over Christendom’s failures to represent Christ in her teachings and conduct?

How would you answer?
 
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