If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

[Behold]

There is nowhere in scripture where it says that you can invite yourself to be Born Of The Spirit..

We dont invite ourselves to be saved.

God invites us......(John 3:16)... "whosoever will believe"..

And who is the "whosoever'?

A.) >Sinners<......or as John 3:16 defines them.......>"the World"

Here is the update (Reader)/

"Jesus came into the >WORLD<........to save SINNERS"

And who is a sinner?

A.) Everyone......for "all have sinned, and there is none righteous, no not one".

 

[Ritajanice]

We dont invite ourselves to be saved.

God invites us......(John 3:16)... "whosoever will believe"..

And who is the "whosoever'?

A.) Sinners......or as John 3:16 defines them.......>"the World"

God does not invite us to be birthed by the Spirit.

If you believe in God...then one’s spirit must be Born Again...you can’t believe in God without His Living Spirit/ testimony indwelling our hearts.

We are Born Of The Spirit.....we are not Born by believing...those are your words @Behold .

Tell us how you know that Jesus died and was resurrected?

Tell us how you know God....by whose testimony could you possibly know God @Behold ?

Without being Born Of The Spirit..you could never know Jesus or who God is?

That’s why we must be Born Again....only then can we walk in faith...my testimony ,belief 100%....

God says we must be Born Again....he doesn’t say we must believe to see the Kingdom Of God...those are your words added to the word of God.

 

[Behold]

God does not invite us to be birthed by the Spirit.

No one said He did.
God invites us to Trust in Christ.

See.....God sends the Holy Spirit into the World...all the time, since Acts 2.... always inviting everyone to come to faith, in Christ.

This is Jesus "Drawing all people to myself". constantly.......based on The Cross offering God's forgiveness to EVERYONE..

John 3:16

If you believe in God...then one’s spirit must be Born Again..

Yes.

And ive posted this to you today about 6x. and explained it as = God's Holy Spirit, causing the Spiritual Birth in a person.

We are Born Of The Spirit.....we are not Born by believing...

Yes,. you can only be born again by the Holy Spirit.

1st.. = you believe in Jesus by HS revelation... in other words, you come to KNOW that Jesus is The Savior...and you make a decision to 'TRUST in Christ'......= and then God forgives all your sin, ....and then God (The Holy Spirit) birth's your spirit as : Born again.

Tell us how you know that Jesus died and was resurrected?

1.) Because The Bible says so.....and i believe the word of God.
This is why i spend so much time teaching it, preaching it.

2.) Also, I was born again, exactly as the word of God defines....

3.) I heard the Gospel..........and its Truth was revealed to my Heart by the Holy Spirit, and then i put MY Faith, in Christ.. and my Faith was "counted by God as Righteousness".

4.) God then forgave all my sin, and gave me the new birth, and i became born again, as a "new creation in Christ".

Tell us how you know God...

I know God because Im "one with God".....>"in Christ".........Born... again........."seated in Heavenly Places."

God's word speaks to me.....talks to me.....shows me revelation, by the Holy Spirit.

Im "in the beloved"... Im IN the KOG.........Im an "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".

 

[Dash RipRock]

If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

Wow! Antisemitism is alive and well among some who claim to be Christians!

Romans 11:14-28 - If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the Fathers' sakes.

The Jews are beloved of the Father and your hatred and disdain for them is a filthy stench of pride and arrogance in God's nostrils as you boast against the natural branches.

 

[Ritajanice]

No one said He did.
God invites us to Trust in Christ.

That is not how the word of God says that we are Born Again...you have added your words to the word of God.

See.....God sends the Holy Spirit into the World...all the time, since Acts 2.... always inviting everyone to come to faith, in Christ.

Again..not Gods words..your words.

This is Jesus "Drawing all people to myself". constantly.......based on The Cross offering God's forgiveness to EVERYONE..

Your words.

John 3:16



Yes.

And ive posted this to you today about 6x. and explained it as = God's Holy Spirit, causing the Spiritual Birth in a person.

That is not how God says we are Born Again...those are your words..once again...confusing words and not biblical.

Yes,. you can only be born again by the Holy Spirit.

1st.. = you believe in Jesus by revelation... in other words, you come to KNOW that Jesus is the Savior...and you make a decision to 'TRUST in Christ'......= and then God forgives all your sin, ....and then God (The Holy Spirit) birth
s your spirit as : Born again.

We come to know God...when Spirit gives birth to spirit....your words above are not biblical..just confusion...

1.) Because The Bible says so.....and i believe the word of God.

You need God’s Living testimony to know God...the Bible confirms this...the Bible is not God...only the Living testimony of the Spirit can testify with our spirit that we are Gods children...no Bible can do that.

This is why i spend so much time teaching it, preaching it.

You got that right...” your teaching it”....I see/ hear no Living witness of the Spirit teaching it through you...just your own confused understanding of what the Living rebirth truly is.

2.) Also, I was born again, exactly as the word of God defines....

3.) I heard the Gospel..........and its Truth was revealed to my Heart by the Holy Spirit, and then i put MY Faith, in Christ.. and my Faith was "counted by God as Righteousness".

I never heard any gospel....I was birthed by the Living Spirit Of God = Spirit gives birth to spirit....that is how we are Born Of The Spirit..

Nowhere does God say that we are Born Again by hearing the Gospel.

4.) God then forgave all my sin, and gave me the new birth, and i became born again, as a "new creation in Christ".




I know God because Im "one with God".....>"in Christ".........Born... again........."seated in Heavenly Places.

Im "in the beloved"... Im IN the KOG.........Im an "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".

Yes as you said...according to what you read.....that is not how we are Born Again...

 

[Behold]

..you have added your words to the word of God.

Never will.. but as you are so confused, you will think what you will think and just imply your nonsense.

We come to know God...when Spirit gives birth to spirit....your words above are not biblical..just confusion...

I know God because Im "one with God".....>"in Christ".........Born... again........."seated in Heavenly Places."

God's word speaks to me.....talks to me.....shows me revelation, by the Holy Spirit.

Im "in the beloved"... Im IN the KOG.........Im an "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".

You need God’s Living testimony to know God...the Bible confirms this...the Bible is not God..

The bible is God's breath on every page.
Its a lot more then just words you read.

You got that right...” your teaching it”....I see/ hear no Living witness of the Spirit teaching it through you...just your own confused understanding of what the Living rebirth truly is.

Well, you are a person who agrees wtih a Heretical Calvinist and a Universalist, so, you are the last one to be trying to explain anything regarding the new birth.

I never heard any gospel...

You never heard anything about Jesus, or knew that He Hung on The Cross...... before you became a Christian?

I dont believe you.

 

[Ritajanice]

Never will.. but as you are so confused, you will think what you will think and just imply your nonsense.







I know God because Im "one with God".....>"in Christ".........Born... again........."seated in Heavenly Places."

The only way I know God...is by His Living testimony..the Living Spirit...who has birthed my spirit into his....the Bible confirms this.

God's word speaks to me.....talks to me.....shows me revelation, by the Holy Spirit.

Gods Living testimony testifies/ witnesses Gods truth to my heart...the Bible confirms this.

Im "in the beloved"... Im IN the KOG.........Im an "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".

Yes you are, provided you have the Living testimony of God residing in your heart, after it was birthed...= Spirit gives birth to spirit.

The bible is God's breath on every page.
Its a lot more then just words you read.

Gods word is Alive and Active...God is not the Bible...you should know this..by the testimony of his Living Spirit.

Well, you are a person who agrees wtih a Heretical Calvinist and a Universalist, so, you are the last one to be trying to explain anything regarding the new birth.

I have been Born Of The Spirit....just as the word confirms.

You never heard anything about Jesus, or knew that He Hung on a Cross...... not once in your entire life.

I dont believe you.

I never said I had never heard of Jesus...I said the gospel did not birth my spirit....the Living Spirit Of God did that.

We are Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again/ Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed....that seed is Alive and Active in our hearts/ spirit..when it becomes Born Again....whose seed do you think we are Born Again of?

Nowhere does God say that we are Born Of The Gospel...

 

[amigo de christo]

@Aunty Jane

What say you on this?

Why are we required to come to Christ?

You might wanna let aunty jane know the answer .
Since by man came death
By the WORD and GIVER OF ALL LIFE who created all that was and is
CAME LIFE ETERNAL .
IT never was the desire of GOD that man would die .
Yet man did seal his own fate and that fate was death when he did the one thing
that DID NOT GIVE GOD the GLORY . disobediance unto GOD does not honor him ,thus it does not glorify him
and not only that , but it is but death unto all who honor IT and NOT HE who giveth life and created all .
You wanna know a secrete i have found, and yet when i say found i mean was revealed BY GOD .
EVERY WORD OF GOD TRULY COMETH OF LIFE and IS LIFE
but is death unto all who heed it not . Its as though
ITS A SONG , a song that giveth life and is life and yet death unto they who heed it not .
The blessing and the curse . blessing to those who heed and a curse to those who heed not .
GOD WOULD DO what no man could do to glorify HIM and to save man .
What man failed to do , I PROMISE GOD did not fail to do
AND HE DID IT FOR OUR SAKES UNTO HIS OWN GLORY .
JESUS IS the answer , HE IS THE SOLUTION , HE IS the ONLY HOPE that man truly has .
And for me to even say that , GLORIFIES GOD . I know what i am david .
And i must praise GOD for even that knowledge .
Now what i write will anger some but it be true . What am i , A wicked thing that fell far short
of the glory of GOD , that could in no way measure up to HIS BEAUTIFUL GOODNESS
YET BY grace I DO BELEIVE IN HE WHO DID and was changed BY HE WHO DID .
I know some of what iwrote might seem hard to be understood .
BUT let me sum it up real simple and real easy . YOU ALL BETTER NEVER ONCE
call me MOST HOLY ANYTHING , DONT DARE call me reverand , or most holy reverand
DONT EVEN SEE ME as squat . YOU SEE GOD , YOU SEE CHRIST as in the all in all
WHO DESIRES LIFE for even the worst as i once was . I BETTER NEVER HEAR ONE MAN
EVER say again IN MY HEARING that somehow lovey do can save us
THAT SOMEHOW these satanic false religions know GOD
CAUSE ITS ALL A LIE and one i will expose . NO man measures up to GOD
or HIS GOODNESS , HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS . ALL AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and GET IN THAT BIBLE to learn and to grow . ALL ELSE IS VAIN and winds of vainity
and a false love from satan and i AM GONNA ExpoSE IT and expose it and expose it .
ANY man who cries ye need to sit under me , know greek , know my scholars
IS A LIAR . and them too i will expose . WE NEED TO SIT AT THE FEET of CHRIST
and if we sit at the feet of any jesus that exposes ONE WORD of GOD , of CHRIST
WELL THEN IT AINT JESUS . BIBLE TIME . kinda odd that a man who by grace
has been in the bible for years upon years every day , STILL wont point to himself
BUT ONLY HOLLERS TO ALL , GET IN THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELVS . BUT had folks known the TRUTH
they had known i was not lying . WE HAS GOT TO GET INTO THE BIBLE again for our ownselves . MEN BE A FLEECING
and far too many love tobe FLEECED of men .

 

[Behold]

The only way I know God...is by His Living testimony..the Living Spirit...who has birthed my spirit into his....the Bible confirms this.

Jesus told some disciples.......>"I never KNEW YOU">..

So, that is how we "know God"..........as God "first loved us" and God saves us.....and then we are KNOWN........and thereby Know Him.

Gods word is Alive and Active...God is not the Bible...you should know this..by the testimony of his Living Spirit.

Ive never heard anyone say that "the bible is God", and im preaching/teaching for a long time.

I dont know of anyone who says that "the bible is God".

But, the bible eternally contains the Spirit of God, as Revelation Knowledge, on every page.

I have been Born Of The Spirit....just as the word confirms.

Me too.

I never said I had never heard of Jesus...

What you said, is that you "never heard the Gospel"...........and i pointed out that you have heard of Jesus and that Jesus died on the Cross, before you were saved.
And you did hear that Jesus died on The Cross.......at some point in your life.

So, that is the Gospel, and you heard it... and later, God used this on your behalf.

 

[amigo de christo]

The only way I know God...is by His Living testimony..the Living Spirit...who has birthed my spirit into his....the Bible confirms this.

Gods Living testimony testifies/ witnesses Gods truth to my heart...the Bible confirms this.

Yes you are, provided you have the Living testimony of God residing in your heart, after it was birthed...= Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Gods word is Alive and Active...God is not the Bible...you should know this..by the testimony of his Living Spirit.

I have been Born Of The Spirit....just as the word confirms.

I never said I had never heard of Jesus...I said the gospel did not birth my spirit....the Living Spirit Of God did that.

We are Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again/ Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed....that seed is Alive and Active in our hearts/ spirit..when it becomes Born Again....whose seed do you think we are Born Again of?

Nowhere does God say that we are Born Of The Gospel...

Rita i am gonna test you , but i also want YOU to test me , AND EVERYONE .
Here is your test question .
Can a man or a woman TRULY LOVE GOD
if they BELEIVE NOT HIS CHRIST .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Rita i am gonna test you , but i also want YOU to test me , AND EVERYONE .
Here is your test question .
Can a man or a woman TRULY LOVE GOD
if they BELEIVE NOT HIS CHRIST .

@amigo de christo
Certainly not is the answer.

Question: If they know the son, do they also know the Father? How do we know that it’s the correct Jesus we are following?

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus told some disciples.......>"I never KNEW YOU">..

So, that is how we "know God"..........as God "first loved us" and God saves us.....and then we are KNOWN........and thereby Know Him.

We do not know God in Spirit...not until our spirit becomes Born Again = by supernatural divine heart revelation....not by reading about it.....

Yes, God first loved us...when he birthed our spirit into his...Gods Living Spirit is Love....our spirit falls in love with the Spirit Of God, when he births us...how can we not fall in love with the Spirit Of God?

Ive never heard anyone say that "the bible is God", and im preaching for a long time, and teaching, on both sides of the World.

Who said the Bible is God?

I dont know of anyone who says that "the bible is God".

But, the bible eternally contains the spirit of God, as Revelation Knowledge, on every page.

How can the Bible contain the Living Spirit Of God?

Revelation comes from the Living Spirit...delivered straight to our heart/ spirit...why do you think our spirit needs to be Born Again?

Do you understand seeking God our from your heart?...how can I seek to know God more in Spirit...if my spirit isn’t Born Again?

Me too.



What you said, is that you "never heard the Gospel"...........and i pointed out that you have heard of Jesus and that Jesus died on the Cross, before you were saved.

Yes...I knew all about the death and resurrection of Jesus....from my own human understanding....

But to truly know God/ Jesus in my heart/ spirit.....was when my spirit became Born Again by Gods Living Witness/ testimony......Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed......that Living seed .the Spirit indwells my spirit permanently and has taken up permanent residence in my spirit....because God chose to give birth to my spirit = Spirit gives birth to spirit.

And you did hear that Jesus died on The Cross.......at some point in your life.
So, that is the Gospel, and you heard it... and later, God used this on your behalf.

That is once again...not how God says that we are “Born Again “....once again we are not Born Again by hearing the gospel.

We are Born Again / Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed....that’s how we are Born Again...the Bible confirms this.

 

[Ritajanice]

Rita i am gonna test you , but i also want YOU to test me , AND EVERYONE .
Here is your test question .
Can a man or a woman TRULY LOVE GOD
if they BELEIVE NOT HIS CHRIST .

No they can’t.....if they don’t believe in Jesus......then they can’t be Born Of The Spirit,imo.

Without believing in Jesus initially as I was brought to believe in Jesus by God...then he birthed me in the Spirit.....no Jesus ,no rebirth....that’s my belief/ testimony.

No one can come to the Father except through the Son ,who is Jesus...

 

[amigo de christo]

No they can’t.....if they don’t believe in Jesus......then they can’t be Born Of The Spirit,imo.

Without believing in Jesus initially as I was brought to believe in Jesus by God...then he birthed me in the Spirit.....no Jesus ,no rebirth....that’s my belief/ testimony.

No one can come to the Father except through the Son ,who is Jesus...

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
Certainly not is the answer.

Question: If they know the son, do they also know the Father? How do we know that it’s the correct Jesus we are following?

If any version of Jesus contradicts the one in the B that ends with an E
ITS A FALSE ONE SISTER . JESUS dont contradict HIS WORDS .

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus Name....as you well know....is the Name above all Names!.....there is none like our wonderful Jesus....who gave up his life...to save despicable sinners..like we once were.....what greater love is there ...than the blood that Jesus shed for us.....

 

[amigo de christo]

No they can’t.....if they don’t believe in Jesus......then they can’t be Born Of The Spirit,imo.

Without believing in Jesus initially as I was brought to believe in Jesus by God...then he birthed me in the Spirit.....no Jesus ,no rebirth....that’s my belief/ testimony.

No one can come to the Father except through the Son ,who is Jesus...

are you telling me you didnt save yourself . SPOT ON RIGHT SISTER . YOU GIVING ALL THE GLORY TO HE WHO DID save us .
Now that might anger some folks , BUT I KNOW i didnt save me
GOD DREW ME to CHRIST and i was changed BY GOD .
But i must say do beware of calvin , though he had some things right
HE had some things dead wrong sister .

 

[bdavidc]

For over 100 years, Dispensationalism has led Christians to believe that Christ did not fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament, thus making the modern state of Israel a required piece in God’s unfinished plan — a doctrine completely at odds with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

This is not true. According to Scripture, Israel holds a unique position as God's chosen people due to divine covenants established with their forefathers—Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God's covenant with Abraham included promises of nationhood, blessings, and a land for his descendants (Genesis 12:1–3). These promises were reaffirmed to Isaac and Jacob, solidifying Israel's role in God's redemptive plan. Despite periods of disobedience and unbelief, these covenants remain unbroken. The apostle Paul emphasizes in Romans 11 that God's calling of Israel is irrevocable, indicating that their current unbelief is neither total nor permanent. Prophetic scriptures, such as Zechariah 12–14, foretell a future national restoration and spiritual renewal for Israel, culminating in their recognition of the Messiah and fulfillment of God's promises. This enduring relationship underscores God's faithfulness and the ongoing significance of Israel in His divine plan

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus Name....as you well know....is the Name above all Names!.....there is none like our wonderful Jesus....who gave up his life...to save despicable sinners..like we once were.....what greater love is there ...than the blood that Jesus shed for us.....

 

[Ritajanice]

But i must say do beware of calvin , though he had some things right
HE had some things dead wrong sister .

I’m sure that is true....but, as you know..only the Spirit can bring me to that truth about Calvin....all in his timing......I don’t get to involved in Calvin’s teachings....believe it or not....plus I know that I have much to learn in Christ....like we all do.

I do believe that those who think they know it all....as I once thought I did....are in danger.....especially if we are speaking in the name of Jesus and saying we are saying what we say with his authority.......

I don’t speak with any authority from God.....that’s why I usually end with..my opinion, thoughts , testimony...