Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon
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Lambano
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One of my buddies went to a Bob Dylan concert down at the local baseball stadium. The sound system was feeding back something awful, and my bud, who in his younger days was himself the sound man for a band, actually had the temerity to go knock on the control booth and tell Dylan's sound man, "Dude, this is horrible. Nobody can understand what he's singing. You gotta do something." Mr. Sound Man, who wasn't about to take suggestions from some rando, politely assured him that this was the way Mr. Dylan wanted it. I assured my friend (as a longtime admirer of Mr. Dylan's work) that, no, Dylan's renown is for his poetic lyrics, not his voice. Even in his younger days, his voice ranged between screechy and raspy, and age and a lifetime of chain-smoking hasn't done him any favors.
I'm happy to share my testimony. Others can do with it as they want.
Living within and beyond the bibles has taken myself and others into receiving new revelations. It's not dependent on the means the Spirit uses but God's desired outcome.
I love that God is sovereign.
Those who don't believe in divine revelation today usually claim that we have a "closed canon".
Therefore no further revelation is available. How tragic.
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So you're happy to lead others away from the Bible / Christianity!
Good luck on Judgment Day!
Yes indeed!
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
Which "God" would that be? Don't know?
Why would you want chapter and verse that you reject? lol
Is there anything in the Bible you believe to be God's written Word? Anything? All I've seen from your posts is attacking the Bible.
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St. SteVen said:
Chapter and verse please, thanks.
You can't prove that "those who reject the Christian Bible are heading for Hell fire".
In fact, there is nothing in the scriptures about "the Christian Bible".
The Bible wasn't even canonized until the fourth century. Hello?
Everything in the Bible is man's written word, obviously.
Book titles like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John make that plain.
Who wrote those books? Whose words are they?
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Chapter and verse please, thanks.
As usual, you are incapable of supporting your claims with scripture.
You can't prove that "those who reject the Christian Bible are heading for Hell fire".
In fact, there is nothing in the scriptures about "the Christian Bible".
The Bible wasn't even canonized until the fourth century. Hello?
LOL
Everything in the Bible is man's written word, obviously.
Book titles like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John make that plain.
Who wrote those books? Whose words are they?
Nonsense.
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The interesting thing is that before there was any bible, the way God communicated with us humans was so varied.
Through nature, burning bush, out of clouds, donkey, humans oral/written form dreams, visions, angels, demons to name a few.
So are you saying that God shut all these down but one? That He restricted Himself to not only communicating by a single form (in writting) but only historical writings (bibles)?
If so, we would have to question your relationship with the living Person Christ, His living Father and Their ever present Spirit.
Question: How does the Spirit communicate with you?
No excuse now that we have the Bible!
Stop making excuses for living "outside the Bible"! You have already confessed!
Which Christ would that be? One outside the Bible of course. One you make up!
No doubt you question all Bible believers, as you have admitted. No wonder StV agrees with your 'outside of the Bible' doctrines! You have a lot of Bible attacking opinions in common.
ALWAYS according to the Bible that you reject! You're not hearing the Spirit. You're hearing other voices.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
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So are you saying that God spoke in various way and means up until 367AD but then went silent or mute?
How did Athanasius come to decide on those particular books?
Who gave him the authotity to decide on those books?
The great thing is that every Child of God was being led, guided, carried along by the Spirit of God just fine before and now after the bibles were compiled by humans.
There is only one Christ Who Created all things. There have been plenty of christ's who did not create this creation.
Christ the Creator Who was before the existence of any biblical canon and will be there if they they are destroyed is the Word of God. He always was and will be. Praise God that no one will destroy Him, the Word of God.
can you substantiate this claim.
Why do you find it so difficult to accept that we, including the early church, have lived and continued to live without any biblical canon and beyond them?
Question: How does the Spirit communicate with you?
What do you mean by this?
Christians don't forsake the Christian Bible.
Better question: How are YOU qualified to attack the Bible?
The Spirit of God sticks with the Bible, unlike the voices in your head.
Plenty of 'christs'? Lord have mercy!
Now you believe the Bible when it's convenient!
Yeah. Read your own posts.
"ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."
I think you're gonna be REAL disappointed on Judgment Day.
Where do you get your information that causes you to come to this conclusion? Certainly not any biblical canon.
I've never read these words in all my years of reading the bibles.
I have the Spirit of the Word of God in me. I have the mind of the Word of God in me. I am a child of God the Father, Who gives truth, knowledge, understanding, wisdom to His children who asks of Him.
I question as much as I can along the indwelling Spirit. We discern things together so we can discern truth wherever it is found. The bibles being one of many sources.
Who told you this? You keep making these statements but fail to substantiate them.
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Absolutely! I can't determine the means by which the Spirit of Truth is going to reveal truth.
Have you read any of my following posts that clarify what I HAVE SAID?
It appears not. You aren't interested in the truth but you appear content on accusing others with half truths and taking things out of context.
Satan uses this tactic, using part truth and out of context.
The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’
Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”
Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’
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