Hypothetical question

[tailgator]

Zech 14 talks about all nations coming against Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women.
As of today,there are millions of Muslims in the countries surrounding Israel who would like nothing more than to kill every jew as they are instructed in the Hadith.

Given that the US is Israel's ally and the prophecy in zech 14 is inevitable,What do you believe the president would do with Muslims going throughout Israel killing all the Jews,as well as dancing over the corpses of the US ambassador,and all US servicemen in Israel and over the corpses of everyone in the Israeli government?


A-Does he attack all the Muslim nations that invaded Israel with conventional weapons in a looooong drawn out war?

B-Does he use nukes against all those nations and end it quickly?

C-Or does he convert to Islam as Muslims believe all nations will?

D-None of the above.

 

[soberxp]

E-Post-WWII Persecution Paranoia and Postwar persecution complex

F-The Inertial Principle of Old Covenant Thought and Behavior Cannot Be Nullified by the New Covenant
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G-all above.

 

[Brakelite]

From my church's Bible lesson for this week dealing with prophecy...
Though, yes, there is much that we don’t know, why is it crucial to focus now on what we do know and to follow what we know—as opposed to obsessing over what we don’t know?

 

[Rockerduck]

Seems that already happened on Oct. 7th.

 

[tailgator]

E-Post-WWII Persecution Paranoia and Postwar persecution complex​

F-The Inertial Principle of Old Covenant Thought and Behavior Cannot Be Nullified by the New Covenant
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G-all above.

Sounds like you don't believe Jerusalem can be taken from the Israeli government?

the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped​

Zech 14
14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

 

[tailgator]

Seems that already happened on Oct. 7th.

You believe the day of the Lord was in 70 AD?
Did the Lord stand on the mt olives on that day?

 

[tailgator]

From my church's Bible lesson for this week dealing with prophecy...
Though, yes, there is much that we don’t know, why is it crucial to focus now on what we do know and to follow what we know—as opposed to obsessing over what we don’t know?

Some know more than others.

 

[soberxp]

Sounds like you don't believe Jerusalem can be taken from the Israeli government?

the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped​

Zech 14
14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

I believe that Jerusalem only protect from God, not by ourselves,nor Israel neither USA.

 

[tailgator]

I believe that Jerusalem only protect from God, not by ourselves,nor Israel neither USA.

God says he will gather the nations against Jerusalem,he is not protecting it when he does that.

"I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it"​

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.



That is not the question though.
The question is what would the US president do after it is taken and the women are being raped.
The ambassador and everyone he knows in Israel are dead

 

[soberxp]

The question is what would the US president do after it is taken and the woman are being raped.

Steal,kill,Destroy.

 

[Rockerduck]

You believe the day of the Lord was in 70 AD?
Did the Lord stand on the mt olives on that day?

It very well could have happened in 70ad. But if farther in the future, it could have happened on Oct. 7th. With prophesy, it isn't as it seems. Jesus had to be numbered with transgressors. Isaiah 53:12 and Luke 22:36-38.
Only two swords among the apostles were needed to fulfill prophesy.

 

[ScottA]

Zech 14 talks about all nations coming against Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women.
As of today,there are millions of Muslims in the countries surrounding Israel who would like nothing more than to kill every jew as they are instructed in the Hadith.

Given that the US is Israel's ally and the prophecy in zech 14 is inevitable,What do you believe the president would do with Muslims going throughout Israel killing all the Jews,as well as dancing over the corpses of the US ambassador,and all US servicemen in Israel and over the corpses of everyone in the Israeli government?


A-Does he attack all the Muslim nations that invaded Israel with conventional weapons in a looooong drawn out war?

B-Does he use nukes against all those nations and end it quickly?

C-Or does he convert to Islam as Muslims believe all nations will?

D-None of the above.

The prophecy of Zechariah 14 was but a sign, as will the response also be.

The sign of Zechariah 14 was not of a worldly attack upon a worldly Jerusalem, but rather of all nations by their fallen nature being against the heart of God and His holy place of heaven.

The worldly response of these worldly events will also be a sign, a show of force to demonstrate that which is already won and finished. Then peace and safety--jubilee. Then comes the end.

 

[Keraz]

Zechariah 14:1-2 Prophesies about when the Anti-Christ conquers the Christian peoples, as per Revelation 13:5-7 and Daniel 11:32-35.

Proved by Revelation 12, where half of the people will be taken to safety and the rest must remain under persecution. Verses 14 & 17.
Also as stated in Zechariah 14:2b....half of the city will leave and half will stay.

Zechariah 14:3, then goes on to Prophesy about the glorious Return of Jesus, which we know comes 3 1/2 years - 42 months or 1260 days later.

As for America and their President, they will be powerless to intervene. Jeremiah 50:23

 

[tailgator]

Zechariah 14:1-2 Prophesies about when the Anti-Christ conquers the Christian peoples, as per Revelation 13:5-7 and Daniel 11:32-35.

Proved by Revelation 12, where half of the people will be taken to safety and the rest must remain under persecution. Verses 14 & 17.
Also as stated in Zechariah 14:2b....half of the city will leave and half will stay.

Zechariah 14:3, then goes on to Prophesy about the glorious Return of Jesus, which we know comes 3 1/2 years - 42 months or 1260 days later.

As for America and their President, they will be powerless to intervene. Jeremiah 50:23

Actually ,zech 14 :1-2 is about when the beast from the abyss attacks Jerusalem killing the two witnesses and taking control of Jerusalem.And the Muslims are not raping Christian women.They are raping Israeli Jewish women.
Jesus comes 3.5 days later .Not 42 months later.

Revelation 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[tailgator]

Steal,kill,Destroy.

I agree,Daniel 11:44

 

[Dan Clarkston]

What do you believe the president would do with Muslims going throughout Israel killing all the Jews,as well as dancing over the corpses of the US ambassador,and all US servicemen in Israel and over the corpses of everyone in the Israeli government?

Once Russia, China, and Pakistan (and other countries with nukes such as India) get in on that and threaten to nuke the US if we come to Israel's aid... we would do nothing.... this includes Trump is this all goes down while Trump is in office.

There's another scripture somewhere that says nations that are friendly with Israel will speak in defense of Israel but will do nothing to come to their air.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Seems that already happened on Oct. 7th.

That was small scale and not an actual invasion of Israel simultaneously by numerous world powers all banding together against Israel in an attempt to wipe them off the map.

 

[Keraz]

Actually ,zech 14 :1-2 is about when the beast from the abyss attacks Jerusalem killing the two witnesses and taking control of Jerusalem

Revelation 11:2-3 proves you wrong; The two Witnesses will preach during the final 42 months/ 1260 days, ending with Jesus Returning.
Jesus will call their dead bodies up to Him, along with all the other martyrs killed by the beast during that time. Rev 20:4

You are right in that the beast will have control of Jerusalem for the final 3 1/2 years, Jesus will kill his army and throw him into the Lake of Fire. Revelation 19:17-21

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 11:2-3 proves you wrong; The two Witnesses will preach during the final 42 months/ 1260 days, ending with Jesus Returning.
Jesus will call their dead bodies up to Him, along with all the other martyrs killed by the beast during that time. Rev 20:4

You are right in that the beast will have control of Jerusalem for the final 3 1/2 years, Jesus will kill his army and throw him into the Lake of Fire. Revelation 19:17-21

The two witnesses do not prophecy till Jesus comes They die 3.5 days before Jesus comes

The beast from the sea already has control of Jerusalem now.He is given 42 months to continue after the false prophet arrives .

The beast from the abyss has control of Jerusalem for 3.5 days ,from the time the two witnesses die and the day of the Lord when the cloud ascends from Jerusalem.

I am in agreement with revelation 11:1-3.

11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


I am also in agreement with the rest of the chapter.

 

[Davy]

Zech 14 talks about all nations coming against Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women.
As of today,there are millions of Muslims in the countries surrounding Israel who would like nothing more than to kill every jew as they are instructed in the Hadith.

Given that the US is Israel's ally and the prophecy in zech 14 is inevitable,What do you believe the president would do with Muslims going throughout Israel killing all the Jews,as well as dancing over the corpses of the US ambassador,and all US servicemen in Israel and over the corpses of everyone in the Israeli government?


A-Does he attack all the Muslim nations that invaded Israel with conventional weapons in a looooong drawn out war?

B-Does he use nukes against all those nations and end it quickly?

C-Or does he convert to Islam as Muslims believe all nations will?

D-None of the above.

Have you no understanding? Must you always think with your flesh?

God has promised to protect and preserve Israel, but today's Jews think that only applies to them, when God's true Israel was always represented by the ten northern tribes which He scattered among the Gentiles never to return. The Jews in today's nation state of Israel, and in the world, only represent the 3 tribes of the "house of Judah" that dwelt in the southern holy lands of Jerusalem-Judea. God removed the Jews of the "house of Judah" temporarily to Babylon, and a small remnant of them returned to Judea (Ezra 2). But the ten northern tribes as a majority who were removed by God much earlier, never returned back to the holy land, and are still scattered today among the Gentiles.

Where... do you think those northern ten tribes wound up, and who do they represent today? If you really knew your Bible history about The Gospel of Jesus Christ, then you would easily know the ten tribes wound up as the Western Christian nations, of which The United States of America is one of the MAIN Christian nations among them! I mean, you can't even figure out why... Apostles Peter and Paul were in Rome preaching The Gospel of Jesus Christ, and why Paul wanted to visit the brethren in Spain, both western nations that would become Christian nations?