Being in space and spiritual encounters

[Karl Peters]

This morning on the Evita Duffy-Alfonso (on Silverloch via Rumble) podcast, a topic came up about how astronauts tend to experience more and deeper spiritual encounters in space. It was short presentation and connected to NDA (non-disclosure agreements with astronauts) so that doctors, apparently of psychology, look into this as a result of being in space.

The considerations I am putting forth here is the fact that in the Bible seems to say that the evil rebellious spirits were thrown down to earth. IF those spirits were indeed thrown to earth, then not in space???

So is it logical to find it easier to connect with the heavenly hosts, and even with the Lord our God, while in space???

It seemed to me that is a logical conclusion, but how does it affect people if so? And is this information being kept back from the population on purpose? Could it be evil spirit on earth influencing people here on earth to keep information, even logical conclusions and obvious research on our studies on space, from being reported on?

I am curious what other Christian think on this issue? Would getting into space make it easier to find the Lord because evil spirits were thrown to earth. And if so, what would be the effect on humans in space?

 

[ScottA]

This morning on the Evita Duffy-Alfonso (on Silverloch via Rumble) podcast, a topic came up about how astronauts tend to experience more and deeper spiritual encounters in space. It was short presentation and connected to NDA (non-disclosure agreements with astronauts) so that doctors, apparently of psychology, look into this as a result of being in space.

The considerations I am putting forth here is the fact that in the Bible seems to say that the evil rebellious spirits were thrown down to earth. IF those spirits were indeed thrown to earth, then not in space???

So is it logical to find it easier to connect with the heavenly hosts, and even with the Lord our God, while in space???

It seemed to me that is a logical conclusion, but how does it affect people if so? And is this information being kept back from the population on purpose? Could it be evil spirit on earth influencing people here on earth to keep information, even logical conclusions and obvious research on our studies on space, from being reported on?

I am curious what other Christian think on this issue? Would getting into space make it easier to find the Lord because evil spirits were thrown to earth. And if so, what would be the effect on humans in space?

That does rightly make for a certain logic.

However, to fully understand...space is the evidence of the great divide between God and this world. Which does not mean that the manifestation of space can be crossed to reach or find or physically touch the face of God. On the contrary, it cannot be crossed in the flesh, which itself is also just a manifestation. Both are as mockups, with no ability to produce anything that is real: nothing plus nothing is nothing. Any such attempts would be as futile as the Tower of Babel.

That evidence of the divide, is more importantly the evidence of God's dividing of His eternal self into increments of time and the individual Spirit given to men...which is the better analogy also, because it is not physical, and therefore paints a more accurate picture of the divide manifestation as a revelation from God as opposed to a playground or invitation to explore. The revelation rather, is for our understanding of what is otherwise unseen.

As for a deeper spiritual encounter--it is indeed a part of the picture, that mankind should consider God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This morning on the Evita Duffy-Alfonso (on Silverloch via Rumble) podcast, a topic came up about how astronauts tend to experience more and deeper spiritual encounters in space. It was short presentation and connected to NDA (non-disclosure agreements with astronauts) so that doctors, apparently of psychology, look into this as a result of being in space.

The considerations I am putting forth here is the fact that in the Bible seems to say that the evil rebellious spirits were thrown down to earth. IF those spirits were indeed thrown to earth, then not in space???

So is it logical to find it easier to connect with the heavenly hosts, and even with the Lord our God, while in space???

It seemed to me that is a logical conclusion, but how does it affect people if so? And is this information being kept back from the population on purpose? Could it be evil spirit on earth influencing people here on earth to keep information, even logical conclusions and obvious research on our studies on space, from being reported on?

I am curious what other Christian think on this issue? Would getting into space make it easier to find the Lord because evil spirits were thrown to earth. And if so, what would be the effect on humans in space?

Well the angels and demons do transcend in outer space. but whether they do so in a physical body is unknown.

I do know that being in outer space could lead one to really see the grandeur of the God of Creation! the Lord can only be found through faith in Him. We will not drawe closer because of visions of angels or demons unless they are accompanied by faith.

 

[marks]

I am curious what other Christian think on this issue? Would getting into space make it easier to find the Lord because evil spirits were thrown to earth. And if so, what would be the effect on humans in space?

I don't believe that our location matters when the Holy Spirit is within us. Some seem to "feel" God in the mountains, or in sunset, or, it seems, in space. But I think that has to do with the fact that we are affected by our surroundings. As we mature in Christ, our surroundings lose that affect, as we know Christ.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't believe that our location matters when the Holy Spirit is within us. Some seem to "feel" God in the mountains, or in sunset, or, it seems, in space. But I think that has to do with the fact that we are affected by our surroundings. As we mature in Christ, our surroundings lose that affect, as we know Christ.

Much love!

Correct my friend . What many seem to feel , however is not GOD
its an emotional experience they THINK is God .
But you are right my friend . our physical location does not matter .
What matters is WE are located AT THE FEET of GOD in our heart .
Submission to GOD . submit to GOD resist the devil and he will flee ..............
To the trenches one and all , these be the last days and one day in an hour known to no man
THE SHEEP will BE FOREVER HOME with the KING . Sounds like total paradise to me . OH BUT IT IS PARADISE indeed .
Now mount up and trench on cause we got a battle in these last hours .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Correct my friend . What many seem to feel , however is not GOD
its an emotional experience they THINK is God .
But you are right my friend . our physical location does not matter .
What matters is WE are located AT THE FEET of GOD in our heart .
Submission to GOD . submit to GOD resist the devil and he will flee ..............
To the trenches one and all , these be the last days and one day in an hour known to no man
THE SHEEP will BE FOREVER HOME with the KING . Sounds like total paradise to me . OH BUT IT IS PARADISE indeed .
Now mount up and trench on cause we got a battle in these last hours .

@amigo de christo

 

[Karl Peters]

That does rightly make for a certain logic.

However, to fully understand...space is the evidence of the great divide between God and this world. Which does not mean that the manifestation of space can be crossed to reach or find or physically touch the face of God. On the contrary, it cannot be crossed in the flesh, which itself is also just a manifestation. Both are as mockups, with no ability to produce anything that is real: nothing plus nothing is nothing. Any such attempts would be as futile as the Tower of Babel.

That evidence of the divide, is more importantly the evidence of God's dividing of His eternal self into increments of time and the individual Spirit given to men...which is the better analogy also, because it is not physical, and therefore paints a more accurate picture of the divide manifestation as a revelation from God as opposed to a playground or invitation to explore. The revelation rather, is for our understanding of what is otherwise unseen.

As for a deeper spiritual encounter--it is indeed a part of the picture, that mankind should consider God.

There is certainly a divide that is spiritual and not physical. Yet how well to we really understanding it all?

I know I seek the voice of the Lord and it comes to me in my heart, and sometimes I find it coming out my mouth, because I often don't pay attention to my heart like I should. God is plainly not a physical being, but what does "down to earth" mean in the Bible?

Oba 1:3 “The arrogance of your heart has deceived you,
The one who lives in the clefts of the rock,
On the height of his dwelling place,
Who says in his heart,
‘Who will bring me down to earth?'

So I ask - who is "The one who lives in the clefts of the rock" who was in "the height of his dwelling place" and questioned in his heart "Who will bring me down to earth?"?

And if we read something like:

Exo 9:23 So Moses reached out with his staff toward the sky, and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and fire ran down to the earth. And the LORD rained hail on the land of Egypt.

That certainly seems to imply a more physical location in "down to the earth", yet God is spirit and it was the Lord who "sent thunder and hail" - so was the physical thunder and hail or was there also a spiritual meaning to what happened. Is there a connection that can not be denied?

So we find that astronauts tend to have more spiritual encounters while away from earth and in space and that too seems to imply a connection between the physical and spiritual as to earth that I would have thought.

 

[Karl Peters]

Correct my friend . What many seem to feel , however is not GOD
its an emotional experience they THINK is God .
But you are right my friend . our physical location does not matter .
What matters is WE are located AT THE FEET of GOD in our heart .
Submission to GOD . submit to GOD resist the devil and he will flee ..............
To the trenches one and all , these be the last days and one day in an hour known to no man
THE SHEEP will BE FOREVER HOME with the KING . Sounds like total paradise to me . OH BUT IT IS PARADISE indeed .
Now mount up and trench on cause we got a battle in these last hours .

God, while also a person, is love!!! Or did we not read:

1 John 4:8 The one who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

So while I hear the small voice of love, and know that He is a person I can talk to, He is also an emotion called "love" - according to the Scriptures if not some 'believers'.

So can He be found in space (to get us back to the subject of the OP)?

Is it not interesting that the astronauts in space from the USA and Russia, tend to get along better than the people of those countries here on earth? That is the way is seems. So who came up with the idea of an international space station - would it have come from God or Satan? Yet the problems like 'who is going to bring home the astronauts' seems to be problems from earth.

I can say I know that answer, but I always find what the Lord had written in the Bible and how it applies to what is going on today very interesting. And as to what matters, it is not that we are at the feet of God, but that we listen while we are their!!!

Ps 110:1 The LORD says to my Lord:
“Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

As the KING OF KINGS, are not all things subject to Him, even the rebellious who think but don't have Love in them. We know about love, don't we. That feeling that we need to care for others. Does that not come from God, or did we logically get that. I am for applying my brain (as poor as it is) and that to reason with God. And I find Him and He personally tells me, "Karl, I love you". I hear that and it affects me, and gives me understanding about how He cares for us. Yet there are those on this planet "earth" who don't show that understanding. Maybe if I can get away in my spirit, from this planet, it will be easier to talk to Him who is love. And I think that might be logical. And what about those who went to the depths?

Ps 63:9 But those who seek my life to destroy it,
Will go into the depths of the earth.

So is that not the opposite place and the heights of heaven? I still conjecture that perhaps space might be a better place to find the Lord who is love (an emotion), but I will let Him take me where He does, and that by following His voice.

Jn 10:3 “To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep listen to his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

 

[lforrest]

I would think the perspective from space would be enough to draw one nearer to God. As from up there we would feel separated from the world below. Yet as you pass over the dark side of the earth you can see the lights from the cities, and associate them with people, as if you know them all. And at the speed you orbit the planet every 90 minutes any sense of day and night is lost, making it seem that time is a construct.

 

[Behold]

This morning on the Evita Duffy-Alfonso (on Silverloch via Rumble) podcast, a topic came up about how astronauts tend to experience more and deeper spiritual encounters in space.

Its the psychological impact of being on the high wire, as this always turns your mind toward eternal things.

See, when you are "in space", you might just not make it back......You might just DIE.
So, now that you are considering this, this leads most people to think about "spiritual things", like... "is Hell real".. "am i going there"... "Is God really there"... "maybe i should have a spiritual encounter". "That reminds me, i haven't yet trusted in Christ".

See, anytime a human being is about to die, or finds out they are going to die..........then they are facing death... then this leads the mind to think on eternal things, and that is where God, Jesus, Angels, and HELL, are all waiting to be found.

 

[amigo de christo]

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Oh He comes quickly all right .
And when HE do this earth gonna mourn , the tribes gonna mourn
and many within christendom gonna mourn . cause wrath IS NOT pleasant .
This world has ran its course and the time of the end approaches and the DOOR will shut .
ALL OUTSIDE gonna wail . And many who profess to know Christ gonna wail with them .
TRUTH has been abandoned by this generation . Another jesus another god is the love of many now .
The bible collects dust and the dust shall be a witness against their souls . SHEEP LOVE HIS WORDS
but wambs sure dont .

 

[amigo de christo]

God, while also a person, is love!!! Or did we not read:

1 John 4:8 The one who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

So while I hear the small voice of love, and know that He is a person I can talk to, He is also an emotion called "love" - according to the Scriptures if not some 'believers'.

So can He be found in space (to get us back to the subject of the OP)?

Is it not interesting that the astronauts in space from the USA and Russia, tend to get along better than the people of those countries here on earth? That is the way is seems. So who came up with the idea of an international space station - would it have come from God or Satan? Yet the problems like 'who is going to bring home the astronauts' seems to be problems from earth.

I can say I know that answer, but I always find what the Lord had written in the Bible and how it applies to what is going on today very interesting. And as to what matters, it is not that we are at the feet of God, but that we listen while we are their!!!

Ps 110:1 The LORD says to my Lord:
“Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

As the KING OF KINGS, are not all things subject to Him, even the rebellious who think but don't have Love in them. We know about love, don't we. That feeling that we need to care for others. Does that not come from God, or did we logically get that. I am for applying my brain (as poor as it is) and that to reason with God. And I find Him and He personally tells me, "Karl, I love you". I hear that and it affects me, and gives me understanding about how He cares for us. Yet there are those on this planet "earth" who don't show that understanding. Maybe if I can get away in my spirit, from this planet, it will be easier to talk to Him who is love. And I think that might be logical. And what about those who went to the depths?

Ps 63:9 But those who seek my life to destroy it,
Will go into the depths of the earth.

So is that not the opposite place and the heights of heaven? I still conjecture that perhaps space might be a better place to find the Lord who is love (an emotion), but I will let Him take me where He does, and that by following His voice.

Jn 10:3 “To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep listen to his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

GOD IS LOVE , HE IS TRUTH . yet so many seem not to love THE TRUTH .
their love if of the world . One cannot LOVE GOD and hate TRUTH . and charity itself REJOICES IN TRUTH .
something this generation of christendom sure seems to know nothing about . Just a friendly reminder .

 

[Karl Peters]

Its the psychological impact of being on the high wire, as this always turns your mind toward eternal things.

See, when you are "in space", you might just not make it back......You might just DIE.
So, now that you are considering this, this leads most people to think about "spiritual things", like... "is Hell real".. "am i going there"... "Is God really there"... "maybe i should have a spiritual encounter". "That reminds me, i haven't yet trusted in Christ".

See, anytime a human being is about to die, or finds out they are going to die..........then they are facing death... then this leads the mind to think on eternal things, and that is where God, Jesus, Angels, and HELL, are all waiting to be found.

Psychological impact or spiritual impact from the heavenly hosts???

Believing/trusting in Christ means that you believe that He is there, with you, at all times, so even in space, and even now!!!

We are not believing in a has been!! We are not believing in God in the Bible, but God with us!! Yet the pharisees did not understand that and failed to even know who they were dealing with when He showed up in the flesh right in front of them. We find the Word of God (He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood and His name is called The Word of God) in our mouth and heart!! Is that psychological or spiritual?

Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

So who actually " always turns your mind toward eternal things"???????????

Hint: It is not your psychological disorders, but the Holy Spirit turns you to the Lord our God Jesus Christ by bringing His words to our spirit - just like is written in the Bible!

 

[Karl Peters]

GOD IS LOVE , HE IS TRUTH . yet so many seem not to love THE TRUTH .
their love if of the world . One cannot LOVE GOD and hate TRUTH . and charity itself REJOICES IN TRUTH .
something this generation of christendom sure seems to know nothing about . Just a friendly reminder .

Yes - that is because they don't seek to hear from Him!!!!

Take a look at this in the Scripture and consider:

Mark 12:28-30 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?”
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’

The "foremost" commandment is "HEAR, O ISREAL!" That is in itself a commandment!!!!!

The result of keeping that commandment is you find out "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;" - that is not a command but a conclusion from hearing Him!!

And another result is that you will love Him, as shown in "AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’

'AND YOU SHALL' is not that next command but is telling you what happens from hearing Him. That is to say that if you hear Him you shall then love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength' just like is written above!!

And you also wind up loving you neighbor as yourself - because He loves them just like He loves you and you hear that from Him!!

And while it is true that " One cannot LOVE GOD and hate TRUTH - that is simply because LOVE, GOD AND THE TRUTH ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON - THE SON OF GOD AND WORD OF GOD WHO IS GOD!!!

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes - that is because they don't seek to hear from Him!!!!

Take a look at this in the Scripture and consider:

Mark 12:28-30 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?”
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’

The "foremost" commandment is "HEAR, O ISREAL!" That is in itself a commandment!!!!!

The result of keeping that commandment is you find out "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;" - that is not a command but a conclusion from hearing Him!!

And another result is that you will love Him, as shown in "AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’

'AND YOU SHALL' is not that next command but is telling you what happens from hearing Him. That is to say that if you hear Him you shall then love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength' just like is written above!!

And you also wind up loving you neighbor as yourself - because He loves them just like He loves you and you hear that from Him!!

And while it is true that " One cannot LOVE GOD and hate TRUTH - that is simply because LOVE, GOD AND THE TRUTH ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON - THE SON OF GOD AND WORD OF GOD WHO IS GOD!!!

so then why are so many picking up rainbows and other sins . THEMS aint hearing FROM GOD , thems aint hearingfrom CHRIST
yet todays all inclusive says they are .
OR how about all them false religoins who todays lovey do says KNOW GOD and LOVETH HIM TOO .
IMPOSSIBLE it is to LOVE GOD and YET DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST . i suggest we get us some bible time . do be encouraged
but i see a false love to GOD these days and thus it results in a false love of thy neighbor
which sure has allowed them to remain in sins and UNBELIEF . DARN THE DEVIL IS A LIAR aint he .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST . i hope you see that my friend . OF ANTI CHRIST , OF SATAN and is no love of GOD .

 

[Marvelloustime]

GOD IS LOVE , HE IS TRUTH . yet so many seem not to love THE TRUTH .
their love if of the world . One cannot LOVE GOD and hate TRUTH . and charity itself REJOICES IN TRUTH .
something this generation of christendom sure seems to know nothing about . Just a friendly reminder .

@amigo de christo

 

[Behold]

Psychological impact or spiritual impact from the heavenly hosts???

Believing/trusting in Christ means that you believe that He is there, with you, at all times, so even in space, and even now!!!

With many Christians, you'll find that if they get into some real trouble or if they get sick, then they suddenly remember to read the bible and have a real continuing prayer life..

With Unbelievers.... they are the same........they turn to God for help.........unless they are truly so hardened that they literally can't.

So, being in Space, is taking your life into your own hands......its stepping out on the High Wire, without a net......its Russian Roulette inside an orbiting space Craft......so, its not that angels and the supernatural are drawing closer to the Astronauts , its that the Astronauts are drawing closer God and finding them, in that situation.

 

[lforrest]

Imagine if this were the view from your window.

 

[ScottA]

There is certainly a divide that is spiritual and not physical. Yet how well to we really understanding it all?

I know I seek the voice of the Lord and it comes to me in my heart, and sometimes I find it coming out my mouth, because I often don't pay attention to my heart like I should. God is plainly not a physical being, but what does "down to earth" mean in the Bible?

Oba 1:3 “The arrogance of your heart has deceived you,
The one who lives in the clefts of the rock,
On the height of his dwelling place,
Who says in his heart,
‘Who will bring me down to earth?'

So I ask - who is "The one who lives in the clefts of the rock" who was in "the height of his dwelling place" and questioned in his heart "Who will bring me down to earth?"?

And if we read something like:

Exo 9:23 So Moses reached out with his staff toward the sky, and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and fire ran down to the earth. And the LORD rained hail on the land of Egypt.

That certainly seems to imply a more physical location in "down to the earth", yet God is spirit and it was the Lord who "sent thunder and hail" - so was the physical thunder and hail or was there also a spiritual meaning to what happened. Is there a connection that can not be denied?

So we find that astronauts tend to have more spiritual encounters while away from earth and in space and that too seems to imply a connection between the physical and spiritual as to earth that I would have thought.

"Down to earth" as Obadiah spoke of it, was to say: "rock bottom." Meaning, "Who will bring me down, as in a pit--there is no one?" Such a one thinks of himself as walking above--as if not being in need ("I am doing fine" they say, "I have no need of a Savior!").

Those "who dwell in the cleft of the rock" are those who hide themselves from God.

The lives and times of those written of in scripture and their stories of physical endeavors, were made manifest for their, and our, learning--as a revelation of the otherwise unseen reality of God. That is the only connection. Such physical events have no other purpose.