A bit of a mess in the White House.

[amigo de christo]

That post may be the blue ribbon prize for ignorance.

paula white ........................
kenneth copeland
the benny hins and etc . you must be kidding me right .
EVERY one of them OWES the WORLD and GOD an apology .
They fly miles and miles over oceans and seas to go to lands
of even the poorest people . and ROB THEM TOO . they rob them of what little they even have
and OF eternal life , cause they sure DONT preach the one true gospel .
WHEN are folks gonna figure out that the so called gospel they preached
Sure did make them filthy rich . They even steal from the poorest in africa .
These africans, some are so poor they live in huts and barely get enough to eat .
HAVE no health care
BUT HEY SEND ME FIFTY DOLLARS AND YA GET A HEALING and prosperity shall come upon THEE , they HOLLER .
THEY THIEVES and i am gonna expose them and the liberal realm .
The only ones seeming to be prospering , ARE THESE WOLVES as the planes get bigger and they houses bigger .
THEY BEEN exposed . they dont fool me .

 

[rebuilder 454]

Television Christianity is nothing but hype and performance, wealth and popularity, all in the name of Christ. That is what those supposed Christian leaders live and model for the masses. Do we think that is a good example they are setting for the flock of Christ? That is not real Christianity.......it doesn't at all resemble the life and example of our Lord whose image we should be conforming to. Sadly they are even leading Trump astray.

Looks to me like these ministry leaders exemplify the very thing Jesus refused when He was being tempted in the wilderness, when the devil offered Him the kingdoms of the world. So THAT's what has been installed in the White House as essentially the state religion and I can't see it as a good thing at all. But what it is, is deceptive. So let's not be deceived by it. Merging state and religion has never been a good thing....when that fruit ripens it produces such things as so-called holy wars and bloodshed and forced conversion. Confusing, conflating and mixing the kingdoms/governments of this world with the kingdom of God is not a good thing. God's kingdom is to be separate and set apart (that is what holy means) from the world, not bowing down to it.

Billy Graham used television heavily.
Good luck since you include him in your nonsense.

Think before posting such baloney.

Even prayer for our president invokes your devil obsession.

What ministers are "good people"
Baptists?????

 

[rebuilder 454]

paula white ........................
kenneth copeland
the benny hins and etc . you must be kidding me right .
EVERY one of them OWES the WORLD and GOD an apology .
They fly miles and miles over oceans and seas to go to lands
of even the poorest people . and ROB THEM TOO . they rob them of what little they even have
and OF eternal life , cause they sure DONT preach the one true gospel .
WHEN are folks gonna figure out that the so called gospel they preached
Sure did make them filthy rich . They even steal from the poorest in africa .
These africans, some are so poor they live in huts and barely get enough to eat .
HAVE no health care
BUT HEY SEND ME FIFTY DOLLARS AND YA GET A HEALING and prosperity shall come upon THEE , they HOLLER .
THEY THIEVES and i am gonna expose them and the liberal realm .
The only ones seeming to be prospering , ARE THESE WOLVES as the planes get bigger and they houses bigger .
THEY BEEN exposed . they dont fool me .

Include king David in there.
He was worse than all of them.

BTW
Satan is the accuser of the brethren.
What is your desire?

 

[rebuilder 454]

$36T in debt. $222T in unfunded liabilities. Endless war. That's a lot of fruit.

The members in here have lost their minds.

 

[amigo de christo]

Include king David in there.
He was worse than all of them.

BTW
Satan is the accuser of the brethren.
What is your desire?

yeah right . sure he errred , when HE DID he repented . His heart was AFTER GOD
these people hearts are after money and worship of men .
You really gonna try and pass that off . Exposing wolves is not being an accuser of the brethren .
Its simply exposing wolves .
Key difference between them and david . Davids heart was after GOD , and sure HE did errr
AND HE ALSO DID REPENT .
these men and women of belial not only err , not only refuse to repent , THEY get only worse . HUGE difference .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Billy Graham used television heavily.

Uh huh and he was also involved in the ecumenical movement believing all religions are pathways to salvation like Joel Osteen and many other predominant so called "ministers"

VIDEO - Billy Graham Says Jesus Christ is NOT the Only Way

 

[rebuilder 454]

Television Christianity is nothing but hype and performance, wealth and popularity, all in the name of Christ. That is what those supposed Christian leaders live and model for the masses. Do we think that is a good example they are setting for the flock of Christ? That is not real Christianity.......it doesn't at all resemble the life and example of our Lord whose image we should be conforming to. Sadly they are even leading Trump astray.

Looks to me like these ministry leaders exemplify the very thing Jesus refused when He was being tempted in the wilderness, when the devil offered Him the kingdoms of the world. So THAT's what has been installed in the White House as essentially the state religion and I can't see it as a good thing at all. But what it is, is deceptive. So let's not be deceived by it. Merging state and religion has never been a good thing....when that fruit ripens it produces such things as so-called holy wars and bloodshed and forced conversion. Confusing, conflating and mixing the kingdoms/governments of this world with the kingdom of God is not a good thing. God's kingdom is to be separate and set apart (that is what holy means) from the world, not bowing down to it.

Visit a few churches that are evangelistic.
When you see an alter call and Christians praying over somebody

Go to your default mode and accuse them automatically of being fake and disingenuous.
Do the same for the guy that came forward.

It must be true since you wildly ascribe motive to anyone who prays for our president

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The members in here have lost their minds.

How dare they not obey you and think exactly like you.... oh the gall of some people!

 

[amigo de christo]

Uh huh and he was also involved in the ecumenical movement believing all religions are pathways to salvation like Joel Osteen and many other predominant so called "ministers"

VIDEO - Billy Graham Says Jesus Christ is NOT the Only Way

billy messed up real bad when he got connected to the ecumuical movment .
It was his down fall .
years later near his death he said , HE wished HE had not done so and had rather focused on the gospel .
He got yoked up with the wrong folks and it was his own downfall .
He may have repented towards his final days . Cause he did write and say HE wished he had never gotten so politically involved
and had rather stuck to the preaching of the gospel .

 

[amigo de christo]

Visit a few churches that are evangelistic.
When you see an alter call and Christians praying over somebody

Go to your default mode and accuse them automatically of being fake and disingenuous.
Do the same for the guy that came forward.

It must be true since you wildly ascribe motive to anyone who prays for our president

She does pray for the leaders , we both do .
We just dont hope and trust in them and follow them .
Speaking of praying , PRAY for the eyes of TRUMP to see , to repent and become christain .
He needs to call the entire nar realm of them prophets into his office
with paula white and say HEY YOUR ALL FIRED . TIME to drain the swamp .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

years later near his death he said , HE wished HE had not done so

There are videos in his later years right before his death of him continuing to say all religions lead to salvation and Jesus is not the only way very similar to what Joel Osteen says.

I remember something about him saying he regretted being so political, but not that he regretted teaching all religions lead to salvation...you got any proof to post that he regretting claiming Jesus is not the only way?

Typically these false teachers don't verbatim say "Jesus is not the only way" ... but what the DO says when a reporter asks them if only those that follow Jesus can be saved is.... "Well, I wouldn't want to judge those not following Jesus because God loves everyone one and those in other religions know God too"... which is a lie

 

[amigo de christo]

There are videos in his later years right before his death of him continuing to say all religions lead to salvation and Jesus is not the only way very similar to what Joel Osteen says.

I remember something about him saying he regretted being so political, but not that he regretted teaching all religions lead to salvation...you got any proof to post that he regretting claiming Jesus is not the only way?

Typically these false teachers don't verbatim say "Jesus is not the only way" ... but what the DO says when a reporter asks them if only those that follow Jesus can be saved is.... "Well, I wouldn't want to judge those not following Jesus because God loves everyone one and those in other religions know God too"... which is a lie

Very sad indeed my friend . I had forgotten about that . yes i seen it . very very deadly indeed .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

It's sad that many put people like Billy Graham up on a pedestal and make an idol out of them.... those doing that put what these people say before what God says in His Word and become deceived.

This is one of the primary dangers of belonging to a church because they expect you to take anything the "pastor" says as being equal with God's Word and they tell people that if one does not agree with the "pastor" they are being rebellious against the "lord" (not capitalized because their lord is not THE Lord Jesus)

 

[Rockerduck]

Uh huh and he was also involved in the ecumenical movement believing all religions are pathways to salvation like Joel Osteen and many other predominant so called "ministers"

VIDEO - Billy Graham Says Jesus Christ is NOT the Only Way

No where in that video did Billy Graham say Jesus is not the only way. Where did he say it? I watched the whole video and listened.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

No where in that video did Billy Graham say Jesus is not the only way. Where did he say it? I watched the whole video and listened.

Excerpt: Bill Graham interviewed by Robert Schuller, Program #1426

And here is the content of the transcript:

Dr. Schuller: "Tell me, what is the future of Christianity?"

Dr. Graham: "Well, Christianity and being a true believer, you know, I think there's the body of Christ which comes from all the Christian groups around the world, or outside the Christian groups. I think that everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. What God is doing today is calling people out of the world for His name. Whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don't have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they're saved and they're going to be with us in heaven."

Dr. Schuller: "What I hear you saying is that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into a human heart and soul and life even if they've been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you're saying?"

Dr. Graham: "Yes it is because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, have never heard of Jesus but they've believed in their hearts that there is a God and they tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived."

Dr. Schuller: "This is fantastic. I'm so thrilled to hear you say that. There's a wideness in God's mercy.
(Teaching the WIDE way leads to salvation in direct opposition to what Jesus said)

Dr. Graham: There is. There definitely is."

The conversation above occurred between Billy Graham and Robert Schuller, who is the pastor of the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California and founder of the Hour Of Power television program. The interview was broadcast on May 31, 1997 on the Hour of Power television program, titled "Say 'Yes' To Possibility Thinking," program #1426.

 

[Rockerduck]

Excerpt: Bill Graham interviewed by Robert Schuller, Program #1426

And here is the content of the transcript:

Dr. Schuller: "Tell me, what is the future of Christianity?"

Dr. Graham: "Well, Christianity and being a true believer, you know, I think there's the body of Christ which comes from all the Christian groups around the world, or outside the Christian groups. I think that everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. What God is doing today is calling people out of the world for His name. Whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don't have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they're saved and they're going to be with us in heaven."

Dr. Schuller: "What I hear you saying is that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into a human heart and soul and life even if they've been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you're saying?"

Dr. Graham: "Yes it is because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, have never heard of Jesus but they've believed in their hearts that there is a God and they tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived."

Dr. Schuller: "This is fantastic. I'm so thrilled to hear you say that. There's a wideness in God's mercy.
(Teaching the WIDE way leads to salvation in direct opposition to what Jesus said)

Dr. Graham: There is. There definitely is."

The conversation above occurred between Billy Graham and Robert Schuller, who is the pastor of the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California and founder of the Hour Of Power television program. The interview was broadcast on May 31, 1997 on the Hour of Power television program, titled "Say 'Yes' To Possibility Thinking," program #1426.

Ok, lets take it one at a time. Yes, in the Jungles of the Amazon tribes have received Christ, but did not know His name and in remote villages everywhere. This is documented by missionaries, when after they visited,these villages, they had Christ values, and a name they gave Jesus, the missionaries enlightened them on the name, and they accepted the missionaries without fear and welcomed them. Muslims are coming to Christ; Iran has the fastest growing church. All over the middle east people are having Jesus dreams, again, well documented, God is calling people. Hindus are having Jesus dreams, but don't know His name, until they find a missionary. Christ has been calling people in these last days, even when there is no church or missionaries. All this is done by the Holy Spirit moving in the world. You need read missionary news sometimes

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't. Read it again.

FALSE accusations!

False??
YOU are the one who claims that neither Trump nor Vance are Christian.

I merely reminded you that it is NOT your call to make – especially since BOTH have publicly professed as much on multiple occasions.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

in the Jungles of the Amazon tribes have received Christ, but did not know His name and in remote villages everywhere.

So you believe.... one does not need to call upon Jesus for salvation?

God's Word does not teach this

As if to say no need to send preachers to teach them they must call upon the Name of Jesus to be saved... and if no preachers went and told them to call upon the Name of Jesus they would be saved anyway?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Quote by BOL:
BOTH of them publcly professed Jesus Christ as Savior.
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So did Adolf Hitler and Mussolini.
All crooks do when they think there is a certain advantage.

WRONG.
Hitler did NOT profess Jesus Christ as his Savior.

He was deeply involved in the Occult and Teutonic paganism. He absolutely rejected Christianity and other religions. He relegated all of his major decisions to astrological signs and occultic warnings.

I suggest you do some homework on the matter . . .

It means nothing when their fruits tell us otherwise.
Does "wolves in sheep clothing" mean anything to you?
Remember the pope during WW2 ????

Yup – Pope Pius XII.

Not only was he a heru, who saved THOUSANDS of Jews from certain death in Nazi concentration camps – He is revered by the Jews for his efforts. As a result of his, the chief Rabbi of Rome not only converted to the Catholic Church – he chose the name “Eugenio” as his Baptized name.
Eugenio Pacelli was the name of Pius XII.

In 1962, anti-Catholic playwright Rolf Hochhuth authored, “The Deputy” – an extremely skewed mixture of facts and fiction. It falsely depicts Pius XII as an "ally" of Hitler.
Unfortunately – THIS is where YOU and others get your information.

Again - do your homework . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

What you and many don't understand is that things to do with this world including its governments, are often a mixture of good and evil....Satan's kingdom is often divided against itself. Sound familiar?.....as in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden we are NOT to eat of. But we need to first be born of the Spirit and have the Spirit to give us discernment and understanding of spiritual things like this...which the natural man can't receive or perceive. It was the "good" part that deceived Eve into eating what she shouldn't have and brought about her fall.

NOT sure where you get this from my post. I’m fully aware of the contradictions of good and evil within the government. I was discussing the lesser of the 2 evils pf the 2 main parties.
For ANY discerning Christian, it’s NO contest. The Democrat Party is a force for evil and deceit.