soberxp
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Only stressed the need for obedience to God in the Old Testament, and of course the New Testament is the same.
Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?
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Dan Clarkston
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Yep... only those led by the Holy Spirit are the children of God and
He always leads based what God has already said in His Word
soberxp
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We cannot expect those who do not believe to be changed by the Lord's Prayer.
When many Christians obey God's word, the Kingdom of God comes to us. it is not a visible kingdom with borders. Every believer follows God's teaching and obeys God's word, done on earth as it is in heaven.
God will protect us from evil and temptation.
But sometimes, Our faith will experience persecution or martyrs.The important thing is to endure to the end.
All we have to do is love the Kingdom of God and love the word of God. Then is to love our country.It is not we love God's country, can not love our country, but we need to distinguish between primary and secondary relations. When there is a conflict between loving one's own country and loving God's country, the first choice is God's kingdom and the word of God.
soberxp
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I was like a lost sheep. God found me, and then I realized he was there.
I became a believer from never knowing the existence of God then beginning to understand him, My first understanding of God began with the Mel Gibson film, The Passion of the Christ, and then I read many books of different religions, Finally chose the Bible, because this book is the most comprehensive, of course, it probably took me a long time to realize a problem, A Christian is not to call self a Christian, but to follow God's word.
Dan Clarkston
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If you accept the Trinity doctrine, then you do.
‘God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit’ is specifically a Catholic construct.
The concept had already existed millennia earlier in pagan religions, like Egyptian, Sumerian, and Babylonian.
OK…?
Here’s something else we agree on!
Have you heard of Deborah? And Huldah? Would you have reacted the same way to their judgements & statements, the source of which was God? - Judges 4:4,5; 2 Kings 22:12-20
I hope you would have listened. Though it would have taken humility & modesty, essential qualities in God’s eyes.
Psalm 68:11. Truth comes from Jehovah God. He uses people of both genders, and all races, to dispense it.
Does Christendom have this Holy Spirit, THE teacher?
If so - and it ‘leads them in to all Truth’ - then where is the consensus / agreement among its members?
Truth has one set of facts / parameters, not many.
So…which group of people professing Christianity, are blessed with God’s Holy Spirit? And therefore, have the Truth?
Those obedient to Christ’s commands to….
- ‘preach, teach, and make disciples’, Matthew 28:19,20.
- ‘love their brothers’, John 13:34; John 15:12; 1 John 3:10-15.
- …even to ‘love their enemies’, Matthew 5:44.
I’ll tell ya one thing: none which are outright disobedient to Christ and God his Father, have the Spirit!
So long, cousin. Have a good day
Aunty, the truth is there before your eyes. Christ is the Creator, I can only testify, the Holy Spirit must do its work. I know you are a true believer, but time is coming to a close and soon we will both see Christ in all His glory, so we must shed the ideas and traditions of man, and follow the truth He gives, not man.
Dan Clarkston
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No, actually I read about God being 3 and 1 in His Word
Here’s a couple of passages of scripture nobody can explain away:
Matthew 3:16,17
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
This proves the Father... the Son... and the Holy Ghost.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
This proves the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are ONE
Uh huh, God made woman for the man... not man for the woman
1 Corinthians 11:8,9
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
God made woman to be a helper... not to be in authority over men.
This is evident in the fact Jesus did not pick any women to be His disciples who became Apostles.
1 Timothy 3:1-13 and Titus 1:6-9 both tell us that church leaders are men, but feel free to attempt to explain this away and disrespect the will of the Lord in the process.
Feel free to continuing to contradict what the Lord said and claim He did not send the Holy Spirit to lead and guide His people in to all truth.
All the false doctrine going on just highlights the truth God's Word also teaches that the old devil iis still roaming around seeking who he may devour thru deception
Aunty Jane
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Do you have any idea what the “old covenant” and the “new covenant” meant for Israel? The “Old Testament” was God’s record of his dealings with his chosen nation…..there are several covenants that God made with his people......and the Law covenant was in force, taking Israel all the way to the establishment of a “new covenant” prophesied by Jeremiah.
“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will make with the house of Israel and with the
house of Judah a new covenant. 32 It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah.”
33 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.” (Jer 31:31-33)
This “new covenant” was not going to burden the people down with hundreds of laws governing their behavior, with resulting penalties....the “new covenant” had only two main laws (love for God and neighbor) and the moral principles of the old law, would now be governed by conscience. This law was to be written on hearts....so this “new covenant” was not like the old one at all, in that it did not require any policing except the removal of those who were causing divisions or dissensions, or those practicing immorality. (1 Cor 5:9-13) .......but all that the old law embodied as to God’s moral standards, was not new at all.
The “new covenant” did not change the moral laws that God had instituted with his nation, nor did it change the identity of the “one God” they worshipped. (Deut 6:4)
The doctrines you subscribe to were unknown to God’s people. (except in pagan religions which they were told not to touch) The RCC made these official “church” doctrine, over 300 years after Christ’s death..
If you accept what the Catholic church adopted as their foundational doctrines, then if God is three and not one, then Mary is “the mother of God” and “the wicked are all burning in Hell forever”.
What has that got to do with us? There are many religious organisations that are vehicles for false doctrines, but there is only one truth, not many skewed versions of it. Does God’s spirit promote division or unity? Please tell us how you describe Christendom as you appear to subscribe to her doctrines? Who is teaching the truth of God’s word, as opposed to the “theology” promoted by Christendom?
Then tell us why Jesus will reject the majority who call him “Lord”? (Matt 7:21-23) He tells these ones he ‘NEVER knew them’. “Never” means “not ever”….ponder over that.
Wow...sexist to boot!
You have nothing to learn from me just because I am female?!
What place did women have in God’s arrangement? They had a very important role in the home and in the family unit. But it was a supportive role, and in the congregation, women knew their place. At their meetings for spiritual instruction, men were given the responsibility to teach as part of God’s headship arrangement.
Yet women were to teach their children at home, and when gentiles were added to the congregations, women no doubt taught other women about the Christ. Timothy is an example of this. His father was not a Jew. Yet his mother and grandmother became Christians and taught Timothy from infancy about their God Jehovah.
Even in the Psalms it says....”
“The Lord speaks; many, many women spread the good news”. (Psalm 68:11 NET)
Headship is not dictatorship. It is a recognition of the role that God has assigned to us, and an appreciation of how valuable the roles of each partner in a marital relationship is.
Men seem to want to devalue the role of women, when Jesus never did.
As Paul said...
“But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God” (1 Cor 11:3)
Even Jesus has a “head” over him. (which would be weird if he was God) But we know from the Scriptures that Jesus had the utmost respect for the women in his earthly life. It was to a woman that Jesus revealed his resurrection and told her to go and tell the apostles.
Many women were his disciples and would share a heavenly inheritance where their earthly gender doesn’t matter.
Gal 3:28....
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in union with Christ Jesus.”
Coming to Christ was a leveler, making all equal in God’s eyes. Only in the congregation were men alone assigned to teach.
You need to climb down off that high horse you are riding.
So the spirit of Jesus was sent to lead us to the truth.....what “truth” is that exactly, in amongst all who claim to teach it....? The devil has the majority on the wrong road. (Matt 7:13-14) These are the “weeds” of his parable. We need to evaluate what we believe according to all of God’s word, not according to Christendom’s beliefs, which are based on cherry picked verses….even your own.
Aunty Jane
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I’m afraid you didn’t….there is no “three in one” god ever spoken about in the Bible. Triads existed only in pagan religions.
We have “God the Father” but not once is “God the Son”…or “God the Holy Spirit“ ever mentioned.
Only Yahweh is God (capital “G”) as Jesus himself said, we have to “know…the only true God and the one he sent” in order to obtain everlasting life….(John 17:3) where is the third party? Do we not need to know “him”?
Without women, men would not exist...a simple and true fact of God’s creation…..try making babies without us….sexism is a disgusting denigration of women, when God created a partnership, not a corporation with a CEO.
Man is incomplete without woman….she is his support, and enjoys a complimentary role…..but she is not his servant.
Jesus had many disciples who were women, and these are mentioned freely in the Bible….he had great respect for them.
Since men were to be assigned teaching roles in the congregations, the apostles were men. In a male dominated society as Judaism was, no woman could have been accepted as a teacher of men….but it didn’t mean that they could not teach….or could not have knowledge that was superior to a man’s…she was just mindful of her place in God’s arrangement. Respectful and not competitive.
Feel free to ignore the question….which you do, like others who cannot justify the existence of a “church” system with so many branches that they rival the banks!…competing for their businesses. If they all taught one truth we might be able to see the operation of God’s spirit….but we see nothing close to agreement on so many issues it’s ridiculous to even suggest it.
READ 1 Cor 1:10 and tell us where we will find such unity in Christendom….? If not in Christendom…then where?
Dan Clarkston
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God's Word teaches that females are not in authority over the men... but there's good news, as you are free to teach other women and you can teach children.
It's God's order and He's not sexist... feel free to argue with Him.
The Lord said in Genesis that He would make man a helper... and that is woman's role which is not a bad role at all as it's similar to the Holy Spirit's role... just without the authority over men part.
Aunty Jane
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Hobie…in my post, the truth is put before your own eyes from the Scriptures themselves….
Christ was the assistant in creation, not the Creator. God said let “US“ create Man in “OUR“ image , according to “OUR” likeness…and in the Scriptures I presented to you, you can see clearly his role as the “master workman”. (Prov 8:30-31) Creation came “through” the son, but not “from” him.
Creation was also God’s gift to his precious “firstborn”. All creation was “through him and FOR HIM”. ( Col 1:15-17) Was God going to give creation to himself?
Please tell me how God can be his own servant ? (Acts 4:27-30)
How can God be his own “High Priest”? Or his own “apostle”? (Heb 3:1)
If God appointed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men” (1 Tim 2:5) why don’t we need a mediator between us and Jesus?
There is so much in the Bible that argues with the Catholic concept of a triune godhead. It was not what Jesus taught at all.
There is another “spirit“ at work in the world…..but it is anything but “holy”. This is the spirit that promotes division, not unity. What do you see in Christendom? There is no unity at all even within the many denominations themselves…..and those who purport to be “non-denominational“ simply avoid talking about their differences as if they don’t matter….but there is only one truth and only God can reveal it. (John 6:44; 65)
Those who have the truth, will not be scattered among the churches, who agree on nothing but their foundational inheritance from Roman Catholicism. Where is God in their conduct? Where are the teachings of Jesus when most are up to their necks in the political conflicts and wars of the nations. What part of Jesus’ counsel to be “NO PART OF THE WORLD” and to “LOVE YOUR ENEMIES” do these “Christians” not understand? (John 18:36; Matt 5:43-44)
What is your personal stance on these matters?
Dan Clarkston
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OK and there we have it.... you think it's a competition and your comment reeks of jealousy.
Maybe your husband can login and speak when the men need to be spoken to.
Aunty Jane
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Since this was a prayer used as a model for our own prayers, Jesus intended it for us as his disciples.
We understand what he was teaching us to pray for, and in what order of importance.
He said “pray this way”…not “pray this prayer”.
If only that we’re true. The majority who identify as “Christians” today are so in name only. When it comes to obeying the Master, they fall short and justify their disobedience.
Nowhere is that more obvious than when it comes to war, when one nation declares themselves enemies of another nation over politics, land, or greed for someone else’s resources.
Christians are to be known by the love they have for God, each other and their neighbors.
All that love can disappear in justification when patriotism surpasses the kinds of love we have to display as God’s word instructed us to. (Romans 12:17-21)
Yes, we are not to expect miraculous deliverance from our enemies….this is how we show God and his son how much we love them, and can can show it under pressure from satan’s efforts to destroy our faith.
Yes, everyone has an attachment to their homeland, but not at the expense of offending God by putting that love before the love we have for him and his kingdom. If we are to be citizens of God’s kingdom, then no love of any earthly kingdom can become more important.
Aunty Jane
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I was not aware that I was exerting any authority over you because I post information on an internet site that is open to the public….women included.
It isn’t God who is sexist, but men like you who like to think they have some sort of authority over women.
You have no authority over me, nor do I over you…what I post is what the Bible says…..but apparently you don’t like it when women have more knowledge of Scripture than you do.
No one is arguing with you over the role of women in the Bible, and if you had read my post you would know that I already acknowledged that very thing. But this is not a congregation with appointed elders who’s job it is to teach that congregation….so you can ignore everything I say if that is your choice. You are not the only one reading these responses…..and this next quote I will just leave as a monument to your ego.
My husband died.
“3 and 1”? Was this purposefully done? Or just a mistake?
Or did you mean ‘3 in 1”?
If so, you still didn’t prove it….
Yes, these exist. It doesn’t say they are 1, or even that they are 1 God, does it?
BTW, Matthew 3:16,17 is easily explained without referring to a trinity. In fact, it’s easier to explain without it.
Wow! Now you’re quoting the Comma Johanneum?
An addition to the Text, that’s been proven spurious? (Thanks to Sir Isaac Newton & others.)
Even “Got Questions”, a trinitarian website, recognizes it doesn’t belong in the Text!
What is the Comma Johanneum (1 John 5:7-8)? | GotQuestions.org
What is the Comma Johanneum (1 John 5:7-8)? Should the Comma Johanneum be in 1 John 5:7-8?
www.gotquestions.org
This unauthorized addition to God’s Word (which is criminal to do in God’s eyes), only shows how desperate and corrupt this particular ancient scribe was to support that teaching! Jehovah & Jesus know who he was.
(The rest of your post, about women not exercising authority over men, is accurate, but you’re glibly deflecting from my valid statements.)
@Aunty Jane is simply carrying out Christ’s commands to preach the good news about the Kingdom (Matthew 24:14), and all related points; it seems you feel, I don’t know, threatened?
Yes that’s for sure!
Deception is rife! (Revelation 12:9)
No Christian, or any honest-hearted individual for that matter, should want to be a part of deception. Right?
Then, why are you quoting the Comma Johanneum?
Did you not know its errant background, that it’s not found in the oldest Bibles? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But now you know.
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soberxp
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This perspective is a longstanding theological principle within Christianity.
When Scripture states that 'a woman must not usurp authority over a man' (1 Timothy 2:12), it metaphorically underscores that the Church, as the bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:25–27), must never elevate its teachings above Christ’s own authority. In this context, all believers—regardless of gender—occupy the ‘feminine’ role of submission to Christ, the ultimate Head (Colossians 1:18).
The warning here is not about gender hierarchy but about ecclesiastical humility: no individual or institution within the Church should overstep Christ’s supreme authority. Just as a bride defers to her bridegroom, the Church must align every doctrine and action with the Word of God (2 Corinthians 11:2–3).
Key Clarification:
- The ‘feminine’ imagery symbolizes the Church’s posture of receptivity and obedience to Christ, not a literal restriction on women’s roles.
- Christ’s lordship supersedes all human structures (Galatians 3:28).
Biblical References:
Ephesians 5:23–24
"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church… Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands."
GISMYS_7
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But reject foolish and ignorant speculation, for you know that it breeds quarreling. 2Timothy 2
Gods Word is true, mans word can be a lie, so we must choose not what people tell us or teach or say, but what God has. They shut down my thread on the GodHead so it seems we are limited on this issue, it is not an easy one, but we shall see the truth and confess it.
Philippians 2:10-11
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Aunty, here is a presentation which I have tried to outline...
Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
All manner of blasphemy is forgiven if against Jesus, but not the Holy Spirit. You can chose not to believe in Christ but you will have a problem if you do it against the Holy Ghost. Two beings.
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me and He has anointed Me... Jesus could not anoint Himself, a priest could not anoint himself. Moses used oil which represents the Holy Spirit to anoint Aaron, here the Spirit anoints Christ. Two beings.
Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Here is says God anointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost. So we have God the Father and is says anointed Jesus by the Holy Ghost.
Hebrews 5:1
For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
Every High Priest taken from a man is ordained for man, not by himself. No man taketh this manner of himself
but he that is chosen by God, Christ (who came as fully man/fully God) did not make Himself High Priest ordained for men, the Holy Spirit is the anointing power .
John 13:16
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Here we see and declaration where Christ says a servant is not greater(authority) than the master (lord), but then says neither He that is sent(clearly a reference to Himself) greater (authority) than He(God the Father) that sent Him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
And this is life eternal, to know the only true God(Father) and Jesus Christ(Son) who thou(Father) has sent. Life eternal is knowing God and Jesus Christ, they are equated in what can only be the same standing.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Comforter(Holy Ghost), who the Father(God) will send in My(Jesus) name, it is representing Christ sent by the Father. Now we begin to understand what Christ was saying when He declares one is not greater than the one who sent him.
John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
But the Spirit of Truth which Jesus sends (He is God)..
1 Corinthians 2:9
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Eye has not seen or ear heard as God has revealed through the Spirit which searches all the deep things of God, (which we see was sent by God), and knows all the deep things of God has to be at the same level. (He who can only search and/or know the deep things of God, is only God)
Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
All things have been delivered to Jesus (He is saying I know the Father and the Father knows me, so He knows everything. They have different responsibility in the GodHead. The Holy Ghost does not have the same responsibility as the God the Father or the Son.)
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Jesus is coming out of being baptized by john in the water, and we see the Holy Ghost as a dove and a voice from heaven, (God the Father) claims Him as 'beloved Son'. Three separate personalities but One substance.
John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
I (Jesus) will pray to the Father and He will send another Comforter (The Holy Ghost). Three separate personalities and different responsibilities in the GodHead, but yet one.
Great presentation...
Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
All manner of blasphemy is forgiven if against Jesus, but not the Holy Spirit. You can chose not to believe in Christ but you will have a problem if you do it against the Holy Ghost. Two beings.
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me and He has anointed Me... Jesus could not anoint Himself, a priest could not anoint himself. Moses used oil which represents the Holy Spirit to anoint Aaron, here the Spirit anoints Christ. Two beings.
Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Here is says God anointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost. So we have God the Father and is says anointed Jesus by the Holy Ghost.
Hebrews 5:1
For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
Every High Priest taken from a man is ordained for man, not by himself. No man taketh this manner of himself
but he that is chosen by God, Christ (who came as fully man/fully God) did not make Himself High Priest ordained for men, the Holy Spirit is the anointing power .
John 13:16
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Here we see and declaration where Christ says a servant is not greater(authority) than the master (lord), but then says neither He that is sent(clearly a reference to Himself) greater (authority) than He(God the Father) that sent Him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
And this is life eternal, to know the only true God(Father) and Jesus Christ(Son) who thou(Father) has sent. Life eternal is knowing God and Jesus Christ, they are equated in what can only be the same standing.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Comforter(Holy Ghost), who the Father(God) will send in My(Jesus) name, it is representing Christ sent by the Father. Now we begin to understand what Christ was saying when He declares one is not greater than the one who sent him.
John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
But the Spirit of Truth which Jesus sends (He is God)..
1 Corinthians 2:9
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Eye has not seen or ear heard as God has revealed through the Spirit which searches all the deep things of God, (which we see was sent by God), and knows all the deep things of God has to be at the same level. (He who can only search and/or know the deep things of God, is only God)
Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
All things have been delivered to Jesus (He is saying I know the Father and the Father knows me, so He knows everything. They have different responsibility in the GodHead. The Holy Ghost does not have the same responsibility as the God the Father or the Son.)
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Jesus is coming out of being baptized by john in the water, and we see the Holy Ghost as a dove and a voice from heaven, (God the Father) claims Him as 'beloved Son'. Three separate personalities but One substance.
John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
I (Jesus) will pray to the Father and He will send another Comforter (The Holy Ghost). Three separate personalities and different responsibilities in the GodHead, but yet one.
Great presentation...
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