God wants to save Christians too. --- Say what?

[St. SteVen]

That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. - 1 Timothy 4:10 NIV

So, this says: God is the Savior of all people, and... that will include "believers". Very good news.
His salvation of all will include "believers". As a subset of all.

So, why are believers so hard to save? They are trapped in a religious mindset. IMHO

Come on, do you really believe that EVERYONE who calls themselves "Christian" will be saved?
Will you be saved because you belong to this or that church? Or by your stellar works portfolio?
Get real!

Agree or disagree?
Let's discuss. Thanks.

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[Behold]

who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. - 1 Timothy 4:10 NIV

Here how to understand "savior of all people" and "the believers".

Its like this.

The Cross of Christ, is where God has forgiven all sin, of all people for all time.

Now, this is explaining that Jesus is the Savior of us all..........yet, this Salvation, has to be RECEIVED by Faith.

See, when Jesus was on The Cross.....>He said......"IT, is finished, (accomplished).. and that is.......'What i came to do, i have done... i have come to offer God's salvation (ME) to everyone, as "the gift of Salvation"..
= I am THE Savior of ALL....

= Now, to GET IT.........to have what has been accomplished by Jesus on The Cross, you have to Give God your FAITH., and God accepts it, to then give this BELIEVER, ...........God's Salvation.


Now, this is a standing offer........that is explaining that Jesus is the Savior of us all..........but not ALL will have it.. not ALL will believe.. .and if you DO, then you are the "especially of those who Believe".. as He's now become specifically to you, what is universally offered to everyone.

 

[Lambano]

That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. - 1 Timothy 4:10 NIV

Is "especially saved" the premium version of ordinary salvation?

 

[amigo de christo]

Here how to understand "savior of all people" and "the believers".

Its like this.

The Cross of Christ, is where God has forgiven all sin, of all people for all time.

Now, this is explaining that Jesus is the Savior of us all..........yet, this Salvation, has to be RECEIVED by Faith.

See, when Jesus was on The Cross.....>He said......"IT, is finished, (accomplished).. and that is.......'What i came to do, i have done... i have come to offer God's salvation (ME) to everyone, as "the gift of Salvation"..
= I am THE Savior of ALL....

= Now, to GET IT.........to have what has been accomplished by Jesus on The Cross, you have to Give God your FAITH., and God accepts it, to then give this BELIEVER, ...........God's Salvation.


Now, this is a standing offer........that is explaining that Jesus is the Savior of us all..........but not ALL will have it.. not ALL will believe.. .and if you DO, then you are the "especially of those who Believe".. as He's now become specifically to you, what is universally offered to everyone.

He is trying to twist things . Remember he follows this inclusive stuff . KEEP sounding out the absolute dire need to BELEIVE .
Rather odd that many will say a truth like GOD is HIS word
and yet turn around and treat the words of CHRIST as though they come not of GOD .
Remember how serious JESUS was and later the apostles were about the dire need to beleive .
And when folks refused they often shook the dust off with a warning like your blood be upon your own head .
St steven is all about this finding common ground stuff . But we both know it came from the vatican .
so no suprises there my friend . KEEP sounding out the one true gospel my friend .

 

[St. SteVen]

Is "especially saved" the premium version of ordinary salvation?

As humorous as that sounds, (not sure if that was your intent)
that is the case, from my perspective. God chose his Elect to be onboard initially. (in this lifetime)
Everyone else will catch up in the afterlife. (each in turn - 1 Corinthians 15:22-24)

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[Lambano]

As humorous as that sounds, (not sure if that was your intent)
that is the case, from my perspective. God chose his Elect to be onboard initially. (in this lifetime)
Everyone else will catch up in the afterlife. (each in turn - 1 Corinthians 15:22-24)

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The other half of that double-entendre is the cost of discipleship. The "premium" to be paid.

 

[CadyandZoe]

That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. - 1 Timothy 4:10 NIV

So, this says: God is the Savior of all people, and... that will include "believers". Very good news.
His salvation of all will include "believers". As a subset of all.

That is not what Paul meant by "especially." He means something like "notably", which is intended to strengthen the idea that God is distinctly saving believers.

 

[amigo de christo]

That is not what Paul meant by "especially." He means something like "notably", which is intended to strengthen the idea that God is distinctly saving believers.

Indeed you are correct my friend . many seem to forget the many other things paul wrote
which made darn sure to let folks know that he who does not beleive WILL Not be saved .
GOD chose how to save the world .
By the preaching of the gospel to SAVE THOSE WHO DO BELEIVE .
i mean look at how often paul shook the dust off his feet against those who recieved not Christ .
Even warning them YOUR BLOOD be upon your own heads , I AM CLEAN of yalls blood , I WARNED YA .
People want to beleive this fairy tale fake love that i know came of satan .
HOW do i know it came of HIM
Cause HE DESIRES DEATH , NOT LIFE for humanity .
SO he gonna do what he did at the tree and say SURELY YE SHALL NOT PERISH .
HE is a LIAR . JESUS IS TRUTH . JESUS IS LIFE and HIS WORDS are spirit and they are life .
HE warned HOW bad it gonna be for those who rejected him .
FAR WORSE than ever it was for sodom . This geneartion is in love with a lie that has made the path broad
and VERY sin accepting , UNBELIEF accepting . About the only thing they do hate is
THE WORDS OF GOD and those who use said words to expose their error and sin . something has went wrong My friend .
I have never seen a delusoin like this in all my life .
ITS NOT ONLY merging the false religoins , the world , ITS even merging christendom with the false to all
believe in A LOVE that will actually be their own destruction .