Ah come on, you addressed MY post which was about Luke 23:27-31, so don't be a hypocrite.
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Ah come on, you addressed MY post which was about Luke 23:27-31, so don't be a hypocrite.
tailgator
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It's still a divided kingdom by the map you posted.
The main reason the Jews did not call their country Judah in 1948 was because it did not contain much of the land of Judah.
They instead voted to call it Israel.That was their reasoning
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If you look at the map, the area that was once the kingdom of Judah is almost completely covered. The one area that is still contested is the West Bank.
The Gog/Magog group is going to attack the current nation of Israel. But first look for the little horn person to be revealed who he is by becoming the leader over a panel of ten EU leaders.
tailgator
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The West Bank is a large area of Judah with a Palestinian population of 3 million.
Yes,the kingdom is divided.
It will not be United till Christ comes and Israel's is brought up out of their graves and recieve the spirit of God as Ezekiel 37 says.
So far,God has not opened Israels graves .
Has not given Israel his spirit.
Has not brought the whole house of Israel back to the land of Israel.
Has not United the entire kingdom.
Messiah is not reigning in that land.
Israel occupies the West Bank, but it is a contested area.
The whole house of Israel refers to the twelve tribes. Not all of the whole house of Israel has been brought back. Because that does not happen until Jesus returns, and Matthew 24:31, Ezekiel 39:28 takes place.
But the whole house of Israel, meaning the twelve tribes, once divided as two nations of nations of north and south, has been fulfilled to be one nation again - the current nation of Israel.
Douggg, if you cannot get the entity nation of the fourth segment of the statue prophecy right, because it was not the Roman Empire as you believe then how could you get the fifth segment entity right as well.
The nation that was given dominion over the Land of Babylon in 1926 was Iraq after the land of Babylon remained devasted and desolated for two ages just like Jeremiah foretold us in Jeremiah 50.
Douggg, if your understanding is false and flawed, then every time you post your private interpretations on this forum, they too are false and flawed.
You cannot get the timeline right for when the Armageddon judgement will take place or when Satan goes to gather Gog from the land of Magog after he is released from the Bottomless pit in the distant future. Remember that the Isaiah 24:21-22 judgement of the kings of the earth at Armageddon and the heavenly hosts will happen around the year 2044-2045 AD because we have already seen the procurer event that took place in the year 2001 AD, which was shown to all the peoples of the earth in their own loungerooms.
If Armageddon happens round 2044-2045 AD then Satan's gathering of the army of God from the land of Magog will occur after the Bottomless pit is unlocked around the year 3044-3045 AD and the subsequent Latter-Day events will unfold over a period approaching 24 solar years after which the GWTR judgements of all the peoples of the earth will take place.
Douggg, your diagram above shows that your sequence for the Gog army marching all over the earth and the Armageddon judgement has these events in the wrong order. Also, Armageddon happens at least 1000 years before the Gog armies begin their march towards Jerusalem for the final show down. Your chart is missing the 1,000 years that the judged entities of Isaiah 24:21-22 and their release from the bottomless pit. Perhaps you need to go back and review your private interpretations before you begin posting again.
Goodbye Dougggg
tailgator
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Well none of them have been brought back by God.We have both agreed that the Jews in Israel provided their own transportation for their immigration.
The Jews the that moved to Israel followed the beast there except for the Jews that were already there.
After Jesus comes the Israelites who do not worship the beast and it's image nor receive it's mark will be given the land promised to them for an everlasting possession.The Israelites who are killed by the beast for their testimony of Jesus will be resurrected and will reign with Christ.Thats what they get for following the lamb.
This is the diagram that I posted.
That particular diagram deals with the little horn person who transitions into the beast-king of Revelation 13. The diagram also shows the importance of Ezekiel 39. And that particular diagram ends with Jesus's return. It does not show the 1000 years, and the final rebellion of the nations that will also involve Gog and Magog.
This other chart of mine shows the 1000 years.... Both charts show the importance of Ezekiel 39.
tailgator, might I suggest that for others to understand what you write, when you mention "the beast", that in parenthesis you state what or who you think the beast is.
For example, in your sentence below.... fill in the ??????????. If it were me, I would put "beast-king" in the parenthesis. And change the text to his image. And his mark.
After Jesus comes the Israelites who do not worship the beast (????????) and it's image nor receive it's mark will be given the land promised to them for an everlasting possession.
tailgator
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I've already said the beast aka little horn who kills the followers of Christ is the Israeli government.
It's not rocket science.
Jesus openly tells the beast to its face that it will kill his followers .While you go around preaching the beast that kills the saints will take over Jerusalem,he already has.The little horn subdued the three other horns in 1967 when he took Jerusalem.
Jesus telling the beast it will kill his saints.
Mathew 23
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
tailgator
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Mathew 23
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Word: genea
Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah'
Strongs Number: G1074
Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085
Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine
Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029
There's no question what the beast is or the city of Babylon.
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Word: genea
Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah'
Strongs Number: G1074
Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085
Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine
Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029
- 1) fathered, birth, nativity2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied by each successive generation), a space of 30-33 years
There's no question what the beast is or the city of Babylon.
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth
Others cannot remember that you view the beast as the Israeli government. Nor that you consider the little horn as being the Israeli government.
So when you type the beast in your sentences, put the Israeli government in parenthesis....
such as, the beast (the Israeli government).
such as, the little horn (the Israeli government).
That way others can either agree with or disagree with your view of...
1. the little horn = the Israeli government
2. the beast = the Israeli government
I disagree with your view, of course.
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tailgator
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Here ,the beast persecutes the saints in his kingdom.In all the cities of Israel.
Not the US
Not China
Not Russia
Not Europe.
The beast only persecutes the saints in the cities of Israel.
Mathew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Not the US
Not China
Not Russia
Not Europe.
The beast only persecutes the saints in the cities of Israel.
Mathew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Douggg, your chart above bears no resemblance to what is presented in the scriptures. The Gog/Magog armies only occur after Satan is released from the Bottomless pit after being imprisoned for 1,000 years, yet you show that the Gog/Magog army happening in our near future.
You are mismatching of the scriptures to support your flawed interpretation of the scriptures. Nothing that you are presenting is actually true.
Goodbye Douggg
tailgator
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Jay, Ezekiel 38-39 involving Gog/Magog armies takes place before Jesus returns.
After Jesus returns and after the thousand years, the same Gog Magog nations take part in Satan's final deception of the nations.
Ezekiel 38-39 event is not the Revelation 20:7-9 event. I updated my chart to show "including the Gog-Magog nations" There are not 7 years (Ezekiel 39:9) following the Revelation 20:7-9 event.
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tailgator
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So why does Ezekiel only speak of one time Gog invades the land of Israel and not twice as you claim?
Because Ezekiel 39 the invading by Gog's armies against the land of Israel - takes place before Jesus's return and the completion of the gathering of the house of Israel in Ezekiel 39:28 to the land of Israel..
Completely different, following the Revelation 20:7-9 final rebellion of the nations, there is no 7 years, no gathering of the house of Israel into the land of Israel.
Yes, this statement is true, but Jesus will return in the distant future and not in the near future as you have shown in your diagram.
This claim is false.
I also notice that you have the Beast and the false prophet going into the Lake of Fire just as Satan is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit, yet Isaiah 24:21-22 states that the judged kings of the earth and the judged heavenly hosts, i.e., Satan, the beasts and the Little Horn are all gathered together and imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit at the same time for many days which will be for 1,000 years to await the time of their punishment.
The Book of Revelation cannot be read as a linear progression of the described events that will take place during the little while period of the seventh age. Your insistence on reading the Book of Revelation linearly has forced this error upon your private interpretation.
Goodbye Douggg
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