Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[ProDeo]

I don’t understand what you are saying here, sorry..

Again I’m not understanding.

Okay, maybe that was a bit clumsy, let's try Romans 8, the chapter you often attach to your posts.

Rom 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.

The flesh is the mindset of our unconverted state before we were born again, our old nature, the old man.

Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Meaning, the moment we are born again we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and immediately the Spirit starts to fight the flesh in our conscience which leads to cleaning up at lot of bad and sinful habits, bearing fruit. A process of years, oh wait, a life time.

Now our Spirit and our flesh from time to time may collide, the question is, who is right?

And sometimes that's not always clear, at least that's my understanding.

And for that reason I check the Scriptures, the final arbiter, allowing my conscience to be reprogrammed by the Word.

 

[ProDeo]

The key problem i see
is WHY o why would one who is born again
be coming after a man for reminding the church about the dire need to be reading the bible .
NOW SOMETHING AINT RIGHT my friend .
I mean if i said HEY i was born again and i gave you the word for word definition of what it means to be born again
but then said HEY BUDDA led me , AINT YOU GONNA QUESTION me . SOMETHING is wrong my friend .
WHY would someone have such a problem with a man that simply reminds the very church
about the reading of the scriptures . That was and is what triggers and triggered this lady to come after me
IN THE FIRST place . Something AINT RIGHT .

In my case the Lord told me in His own special way, you know, what His hands starts....

 

[Ritajanice]

Okay, maybe that was a bit clumsy, let's try Romans 8, the chapter you often attach to your posts.

Rom 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.

The flesh is the mindset of our unconverted state before we were born again, our old nature, the old man.

Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Meaning, the moment we are born again we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and immediately the Spirit starts to fight the flesh in our conscience which leads to cleaning up at lot of bad and sinful habits, bearing fruit. A process of years, oh wait, a life time.

Not for me...the Spirit testified with my spirit as he was indwelling my spirit..that’s biblical.

I agree that as soon as my spirit was Born Again, that’s when the battle begins...our will has to learn to get inline with Gods will...that is something we learn as we grow in spirit knowledge....being Born Again is all about spiritual growth....it’s not about growing in a bible story.....we are Born Again and will grow into maturity, we are being conformed into Jesus image...we should also bear the fruit of The Spirit.

Now our Spirit and our flesh from time to time may collide, the question is, who is right?

The Spirit of course, he is never wrong.

And sometimes that's not always clear, at least that's my understanding.

Not at the beginning it’s not...but as we grow in Spirit knowledge...as our minds are being renewed, plus remember, the Spirit never stops working in our hearts...even though at times, we don’t see it.

And for that reason I check the Scriptures, the final arbiter, allowing my conscience to be reprogrammed by the Word.

That’s your way of explaining it...I explained it differently.

@ProDeo ...we’re most definitely on that same narrow path...which is a hard path to follow..that’s when I Praise God for his helper the Holy Spirit.

I couldn’t tread that path without him...

 

[ProDeo]

One cannot LOVE GOD and despise truth
one cannot Love CHRIST and despise truth .
IF one despises His words , THEY DO DESPISE HIM . that is a fact too .

Instead of constant judgement can you please be constructive and offer solutions in love instead?

 

[Lizbeth]

… because the Bible tells me so.

Amen, and it never lies! Nothing but the truth in that book (as long as it's a decent translation.) Makes me worried when some don't love the truth.

 

[ProDeo]

Me - Now our Spirit and our flesh from time to time may collide, the question is, who is right?

The Spirit of course, he is never wrong.

We are almost in agreement.

Me, I don't underestimate my flesh, it wants to survive, I learned from the best, Peter, Paul and Jeremiah

Peter
Matt 26:33 Peter answered him, “Though they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away.”
Matt 26:34 Jesus said to him, “Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.”
Matt 26:35 Peter said to him, “Even if I must die with you, I will not deny you!” And all the disciples said the same.

And yet Peter denied Jesus when his life was at stake.

Paul
Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out.

Jeremiah
17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

Thanks for the discussion, quite some postings again for one day

 

[Ritajanice]

I’m in the truth and I Love the truth, that the Living Spirit Witnesses to my heart/ spirit.

The truth is, God is a Living Spirit....he is not a Living Bible...the Bible confirms the truth that we receive from his Living testimony......without God’s Spirit we are none of His.the Bible confirms that Living truth..

 

[Ritajanice]

Me - Now our Spirit and our flesh from time to time may collide, the question is, who is right?



We are almost in agreement.

Me, I don't underestimate my flesh, it wants to survive, I learned from the best, Peter, Paul and Jeremiah

Me..I now understand that I’m not in the flesh , I’m in the Spirit.....the flesh has no power over me as my spirit is in Christ.

Peter
Matt 26:33 Peter answered him, “Though they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away.”

Depends on what your interpretation means, of falling away?

Matt 26:34 Jesus said to him, “Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.”
Matt 26:35 Peter said to him, “Even if I must die with you, I will not deny you!” And all the disciples said the same.

And yet Peter denied Jesus when his life was at stake.

Well, who knows, I say I would never deny Jesus, yet if I had a gun put against my head, who knows what I would do...

Paul
Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out.

I’m not in the flesh I’m in the Spirit....

Jeremiah
17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

I believe that is speaking to the unregenerate.remember that we are partakers Of the divine nature, we have a new heart and spirit within, what does God say about a heart of flesh?

Ezekiel 36:26-27

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26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Thanks for the discussion, quite some postings again for one day

Thank you also...interesting, how God speaks to you one way and to me another way..

But then, he wouldn’t speak to us the same way...God has always spoken to my spirit, as i was Born Again having never read a Bible.

 

[Lizbeth]

I’m praying big time for you.."that the Spirit sets you free from all this repeating that you do...going over the same old ground, day in day out....you must be exhausted by the end of the day.

LOL. Sorry couldn't resist. ;)

 

[Ritajanice]

LOL. Sorry couldn't resist. ;)

No worries, he can’t get enough of me...he even came into the woman’s forum after me, he’s trying to convert me to his way of preaching the same old regurgitated nonsense....LOL..

Praise God for discernment and Praise God for his Living witness the Holy Spirit.

As God says ..you will know them by their fruit....they will always expose “ their own ” fruit eventually

 

[IronMaiden]

I’m in the truth and I Love the truth, that the Living Spirit Witnesses to my heart/ spirit.

The truth is, God is a Living Spirit....he is not a Living Bible...the Bible confirms the truth that we receive from his Living testimony......without God’s Spirit we are none of His.the Bible confirms that Living truth..

The Holy Spirit lives within every true Christian.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (NKJV) 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit [who is] in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

 

[amigo de christo]

Instead of constant judgement can you please be constructive and offer solutions in love instead?

how on earth is that not love . I simply reminded all of the truth . not a name one was even mentioned .
A general reminder of the truth is not condemnation , its For Edification .
Besides i have often often said the solution . Get them back in the bible to learn for themselves . ONLY most want no part of that .
And thus decieved by men and their own selves they will continue to be .
We cannot live on emotions . There is always a way that seems right to a person but the end is death .
Get this people in the bible again . take note i am not pointing them to me or to any man . I am saying
get in the bible to learn for oneself . Ps it aint a sin to try and get people back into the bible .

 

[amigo de christo]

Me - Now our Spirit and our flesh from time to time may collide, the question is, who is right?



We are almost in agreement.

Me, I don't underestimate my flesh, it wants to survive, I learned from the best, Peter, Paul and Jeremiah

Peter
Matt 26:33 Peter answered him, “Though they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away.”
Matt 26:34 Jesus said to him, “Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.”
Matt 26:35 Peter said to him, “Even if I must die with you, I will not deny you!” And all the disciples said the same.

And yet Peter denied Jesus when his life was at stake.

Paul
Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out.

Jeremiah
17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

Thanks for the discussion, quite some postings again for one day

When the churches decided to remove being grave , they really stuck it to themselves .
Leaven just flows in under the banner judge not correct not
and if any one even dares to be sincere and grave , its you dont love you judge . try reading the letters of the apostels
if you even think i am grave , LOOK at them . Look at what paul told the very church he loved .
WHY he warned them in a letter first . go on peek at it . Then look at what he writes to titus
about rebuking them sharply as with timothy too . come now if we think letters on a screen
that have a little gravity to them is harsh , TRY reading the bible . Besides
in quite a few letters paul wrote
he often used the word grave as a requirement . take a peek at what grave means . lest we confuse it with gravy
as it seems most have .

 

[Ritajanice]

The Holy Spirit lives within every true Christian.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (NKJV) 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit [who is] in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

The Holy Spirit or Gods word does not say.

The Holy Spirit lives within every true Christian...those are” your” words.

You show me using the Bible what a “ true Christian “ is?
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I’m sure that there are some Christians in Name only...who are not Born Again

The scripture you posted, is referring to a Born Again, a Born Again houses the Spirit in their spirit.

We were brought for a price....the price was Jesus, without Jesus there would be no Born Again, it’s because of Jesus death and resurrection that we can be reunited back to God in spirit...why do you think we must be Born Again?...how do we communicate with God, we communicate with God via His Spirit.....God is a Spirit...we are “ spirit children “.
You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God..I will go with the word of God, thanks.

You see, Gods word is Alive and Active...it’s not the Bible, the Bible confirms that Gods word is Alive and Active....

Hebrews 4:12​

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12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart


A Bible will not endure , a Bible is not the Living Spirit Of God...it was written under inspiration..written by men who were led by the Spirit..to write what they wrote...

A Born Again has been spiritually birthed...by Gods Living testimony..= Spirit gives birth to spirit.....you are free to believe whatever you like, if you quote my post and I see error, then the Spirit through me will correct, that is my belief..once again, there is nowhere in Gods word that says...” The Holy Spirit lives within every true Christian “...you have added your own understanding of what it means, to be Born Again, very confusing to read, because it came out of “ your own mouth” not the mouth of God.

The Enduring Word
(Isaiah 40:6–8)

22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For,

“All flesh is like grass,

and all its glory like the flowers of the field;

the grass withers and the flowers fall,

25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f

And this is the word that was proclaimed to you

 

[Ritajanice]

Commentary...very wise words.

What did Jesus say about judging, or condemning, others?​

Hello
In Matthew, Jesus told his followers not to judge others. He said that if we do judge others, we will be judged ourselves.
“Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.” (Matthew 7:1-2)
In Luke, Jesus said the same thing, but also warned against condemning others.
“Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.” (Luke 6:37)
The language Jesus used on these occasions is unusually strong. He warns us, his followers, that if we judge others we will be judged, and if we condemn others we will be condemned. So we need to think very carefully about whether we are judging or condemning others.
God looks at the heart (1 Samuel 16:7). Only God can look at the heart. We cannot know what is in another person’s heart. So, we cannot judge or condemn another person.
Jesus tells us to be merciful (Matthew 5:7). If we are merciful, we will not judge others or condemn them.
Jesus tells us to be meek (Matthew 5:5). “Meek” is not a common English word today. The Greek word used in this verse can also be translated “kind” or “gentle”. If we are kind and gentle, we will not judge others or condemn them.
Jesus tells us to be humble. (Too many times to list here, but I’ve listed the occasions Jesus said this in a footnote at the end of the article.) If we are humble, we will not judge others or condemn them.
Jesus tells us to forgive others (Matthew 6:14-15). If we forgive others, we will not judge them or condemn them. Again, here, Jesus uses strong language, saying that if we do not forgive, we will not be forgiven. (This is scary stuff.)
Most importantly, Jesus tells us to love others. If we love others, we will not judge them or condemn them.
There is still a question: What should I do when I see a sister or brother behaving in ways that are in conflict with Jesus’ teachings? First, I will need to pray. This is most important. While praying I need to do some careful, thoughtful, examination of my own heart and motives before I say anything. Also, I must ask myself “Is this person’s behavior clearly in conflict with Jesus’ teachings?”. Another question worth asking is “Who is getting hurt?”. If nobody is being hurt or damaged by this person’s behavior, is it really in conflict with Jesus’ teaching? But the most important thing I must do before saying anything to the person is to pray. I suggest praying “Your will be done” from the heart. If our loving Father doesn’t want me to talk to this person about their behavior, then I don’t want to do it. On the other hand, if he does want me to talk to them, he will give me the wisdom and humility I need to serve them. My motive should be that I want to serve them.
If, after prayer and reflection, I am certain that their behavior is in conflict with Jesus’ teachings, and that people are being hurt or damaged by it, Jesus gives me clear guidelines as to how I should act. We find this teaching in Matthew 18:15-16. Jesus says the first thing I should do is talk to the person and talk to them when the two of us are alone. I think this is really important; I must avoid the temptation to talk to other people about the person. However, Jesus says that, if the person won’t listen to me when I talk to them alone, then I should get one or two others to come with me and try again. (For more detail on this teaching, check out the article “What did Jesus say about dealing with corruption, abuse and conflict in our Churches?” Link below.)
OK. But, once I’ve got them on their own, what do I say to the person? How can I draw their attention to their behavior without judging or condemning them? Answer – I must focus on the behavior, not the person. Each of us will have a different way of approaching this. I could draw their attention to the relevant teaching and I could let them know I think their behavior is causing problems for others and ask them what they think. I should do this quietly, humbly and prayerfully. Ideally, the person I am talking to should be in no doubt, in their heart, that I am not judging them and I want to help them.
I know this is difficult. But I also know that God goes with me when he wants me to do something difficult. If I pray, and am humble, God will give me whatever I need in order to do what he wants me to do.
We live in societies where judging others and condemning others is regarded as normal. We see our political leaders judging and condemning others all the time. As followers of Jesus, we must show a different way of behaving.
We trust that God will lead us into a right way of thinking about others. That way is always love.
One last thought. We don’t just judge and condemn others when we are talking to them. We must be careful not to judge or condemn others when we are talking about them – including when we talk online

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus was perfect in his teachings.

Jesus consistently approached sinners with compassion and a readiness to forgive, as seen in His interactions with the woman caught in adultery. He didn't condemn her but encouraged her to "Go and sin no more," highlighting both mercy and the call to transformation.

 

[ProDeo]

how on earth is that not love . I simply reminded all of the truth . not a name one was even mentioned .
A general reminder of the truth is not condemnation , its For Edification .
Besides i have often often said the solution . Get them back in the bible to learn for themselves . ONLY most want no part of that .
And thus decieved by men and their own selves they will continue to be .
We cannot live on emotions . There is always a way that seems right to a person but the end is death .
Get this people in the bible again . take note i am not pointing them to me or to any man . I am saying
get in the bible to learn for oneself . Ps it aint a sin to try and get people back into the bible .

Yes, she has it backwards and everybody sees it. She has said she doesn't trust Scripture because it is written by men. As a result she evaluates everything with her own mind, convinced that the Holy Spirit is speaking to her and then checks if Scripture agrees and if not reject what is stated. So how do you deal with that? Certainly not by warnings and judgements.

I prefer reason plus Scripture without warnings and judgements.

If you know something better, please contribute.

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes, she has it backwards and everybody sees it. She has said she doesn't trust Scripture because it is written by men. As a result she evaluates everything with her own mind, convinced that the Holy Spirit is speaking to her and then checks if Scripture agrees and if not reject what is stated. So how do you deal with that? Certainly not by warnings and judgements.

I prefer reason plus Scripture without warnings and judgements.

If you know something better, please contribute.

How on earth can the Spirit Of God communicative with us...if our spirit hasn’t been birthed/ Born Again?

How can you even know God, or Jesus for that matter, without God’s Living testimony?
Testifying that truth to one’s heart/ spirit , on who they are?

You said the Bible convinced you ...where does the Bible tell you that it convinces you ,that your spirit is Born Again?
There is nowhere in the word that says any of what you have said on a previous post


God is a Living Spirit....The Spirit testifies/ Witnesses that to our heart/ spirit, when it becomes Born Of The Spirit...what do you think Born Of The Spirit means?
Are you in love with the Spirit Of God?...do you know that the Spirit Of God is Pure, Holy and Love.is Alive and Active in all of his children?



I meant that not all scripture refers to a Born Again ,a Born Again is under the new covenant, the Old Testament does not apply to a Born Again...

No I don’t evaluate everything with my own mind..I have the mind of Christ, that is being developed in me...

My spirit is Born Again...of course I understand exactly where you are coming from ...when you say..she is convinced that the Holy Spirit speaks to her, I can’t convince myself of anything....the Holy Spirit testifies with my spirit Gods word and truth......when you say ,she is convinced that the Spirit speaks to her, that’s you thinking from your natural man, imo..........maybe you are a main line Christian and aren’t Born Again....I mean you are being honest above about me, let’s be honest, you are certainly referring to me above.
So now, I believe I can be honest with you, I’m not taking offence whatsoever on what you have said about me ...remember what God says about the natural man, they have no discernment...when it comes to understanding Spiritual matters...I mean at your rebirth, were you given a new heart/ spirit? do you have spiritual ears and eyes?..do you even know what they are...?

Another thing how can reading a Bible conform you into Jesus image?
Do you understand that the Living Spirit in our spirit is at work all day every day, conforming us into Jesus image..,,can you see your “ spiritual “ growth .as you look back to when you were a new babe...or have you only grown in head knowledge?...like a few on here have..yet I see no spiritual growth in them?

According to quite a few on here according to you also, that I’m wrong and that I have everything backwards.

Not according to God’s Living Witness I don’t...I only go by his testimony alone....men/ woman are confused and it shows on many posts.
I stand on God’s Living testimony....I don’t stand on men’s/ woman’s testimony.
We are Born Of The Spirit......we are not Born Again by believing and reading scripture....being Born Again is a supernatural divine heart revelation experience, it’s a testifying with our spirit that we are Gods Children...
A mind blowing experience....I mean, who gets Gods Living testimony witnessing that truth to one’s spirit?

When some on here say that they are saved..I’ve asked them what that means, most wont answer..one said that they were released from Satan ...then I asked how on earth would they know that they have been released from Satan?

Are you with me...they may well be a mainline Christian, but aren’t Born Again...?

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Paul’s Message by the Spirit’s Power 1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. Spiritual Wisdom (Ephesians 1:15–23) 6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b 10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ.

You see my friend, I have Gods Living testimony indwelling my spirit.....now if you think that is wrong, that I have it backwards, I can live with men’s/ women’s opinions of my faith/ belief.

I walk under the authority of the Spirit and I post all that I believe he places on my heart to post.

We are spirit children, I am not a bible child like some on here...who have no “ heart” knowledge....
All they seem to have is man made confusing understanding of the Bible....that is my honest opinion of a few....just like their honest opinions about me are...I’m satanic, I’m wrong, I have everything backwards and I’m a Calvinist...those are the words of men/ woman......their words..don’t penetrate my heart/ spirit....only Gods Living witness the Spirit can penetrate my heart and minister to it.

1 John 2:27 ESV / ​

But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him

As I grow in the Spirit my behaviour is changing as instead of acting out ,using my emotions, I am learning from the power within my spirit....I act out as Jesus would have acted out.....we should be becoming more and more like him in spirit my friend.....do you see that happening on here much....or do you just see a lot of natural talk and the same old regurgitated nonsense....day in day out ....?
2 Peter 3 tells us to “grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” This is not referring to physical growth like you might see from a plant. Rather, this passage is referring to spiritual growth and growing closer to God.

Any questions do ask, I’d be more than happy to explain using scripture..

I Love speaking from my heart, for that is where the Living Spirit lives/ indwells.....

 

[Ritajanice]

Continue @ProDeo .

You see my friend I Love and adore the Living God....even though the Bible is inspired and written by men...I don’t Love and adore it.....I wouldn’t dare, I only refer to it...when the Living Spirit speaks to my heart/ spirit.....the Bible confirms the truth about how we are Born Of The Spirit/ spiritual growth/ the fruits of the Spirit.....that is all related to the Spirit that indwells our spirit.

Without God Living testimony/ witness , how can we possibly know God in our spirit.....we can’t.....one can only then follow the Bible from their own understanding...being a mainline Christian and not truly Born Again.
That’s why we must be Born Again....without the Spirit we are none of His...just as the Bible confirms.

He made us to crave and desire Him. Colossians 3:1-2states, “Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”

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2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

Man needs to be born again before he can believe the Gospel, otherwise man is dead in sin. By nature man in his best state is altogether vanity Ps 39:5,11

Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity.

When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.

John Gill writes:

verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. As vanity may signify sin, emptiness, folly, falsehood, fickleness, and inconstancy; for man is a very sinful creature, empty of all that is good; foolish as to the knowledge of divine things; he is deceiving and deceived, his heart is deceitful and desperately wicked; and he is unstable in all his ways: he is "all vanity"

The word means worthless and unprofitable . Paul wrote of the natural man Rom 3:12

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

(lit: I become sour, I turn, of milk), I am good for nothing, render useless; met: I become corrupt.

This is why Jesus says Jn 6:44 No man can come to me ! f