Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[amigo de christo]

Might wanna beleive the part that follows THAT IF rita . Seems they had a choice sister .
Many did not choose ye this day TO FOLLOW HIM .
SO here is a hint . But sirs what must I DO to be saved , BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
often many overlook at lot of what follows those IFS in that there bible rita .
EVER wonder why paul , BY THE SPIRIT also wrote
And exhort one another daily LEST ANY OF YOU becomes hardened by the decietfulness of sin
lest any root of bitterness springing up defiles you
THE SPIRIT works through the body rita . for its own good and edification . LEAVEN left
uncorrected DOES NOT WORK to the good of the church but rather to its own DESTRUCTION . SEE why they warned rita .
SEE WHY GOD had them warn and remind daily and YES rita
to even remind the church about the dire need to learn the scriptures . many follow a god , a christ created of MEN
Made in the image OF MAN rita . now bible up sister .

 

[Ritajanice]

Many do have the gospel preached to them and they reject it .
If one hears and rejects it whose fault ya really think it is sister many try and blame GOD
but i say THE FAULT IS ALL ON THEM sister . What says you . do you really wanna blame GOD
for the fault lies on man NOT GOD . I suggest we all start reading our bible again .
There is no new creature in an unbeliever sister . The unbeleiver IS NOT SEALED with that HOLY SPIRIT of promise rita .
HERE is who is sealed . now read carefully .
After WHOM ye BELIEVED IN , you were SEALED with that SPIRIT of promise .
NOW I know its only the SPIRIT that draws one .
I suggest we preach JESUS the CHRIST to these poor lost souls , and when i say poor lost souls
SADLY i speak not just of the false religoins but a whole lot within even Christendom .

Once again my friend.....that is not how Gods word says that we are Born Of The Spirit.

A Born Again was chosen and predestined to become children of God....we are reconciled back to God in our spirit, hence Spirit gives birth to spirit.

If you believe in the gospel..that’s what you believe.

I couldn’t possibly even understand the gospel, not until my spirit was birthed by the Spirit Of God.

You believe your way...that God has brought you to believe.

I believe the way that God has brought me to believe...by being Born Of The Spirit, who is Gods Living Witness/ testimony.

 

[amigo de christo]

Once again my friend.....that is not how Gods word says that we are Born Of The Spirit.

A Born Again was chosen and predestined to become children of God....we are reconciled back to God in our spirit, hence Spirit gives birth to spirit.

If you believe in the gospel..that’s what you believe.

I couldn’t possibly even understand the gospel, not until my spirit was birthed by the Spirit Of God.

You believe your way...that God has brought you to believe.

I believe the way that God has brought me to believe...by being Born Of The Spirit, who is Gods Living Witness/ testimony.

Try reading the whole of what JESUS told nichodemus . not just twisting the parts calvin taught .
But aside from this , do you realize
WHY you first came after me many months ago .
ITs the same reason you always come after me .
Guess what it is ritajanice . In the beginning we got along , THEN I DARED to make MENTION
that we ought to be READING OUR BIBLES and all war began .
Then later you come back , we get along for a time
TILL ONCE again i make the mentoin we need to be reading the bible .
NOW WHY IS THAT RITA . what is it about that reminder that really bothers you so much .
I mean it literally triggers you wild in a frenzy when i even dare make mentoin of it .
Every time i make mention of the dire need to be reading the bible , YOU begin with a mission
a frenzy to all of a sudden try and remind me OF WHAT I ALREADY KNOW , that one MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
Ritjanice what about the reminder to be reading them scrips and testing all men
BOTHERS YOU so much . This lamb already knows the answer , but i dont think you yet do .
SO i suggest again we get in the bible to learn for ourselves .

 

[Ritajanice]

I pray you will go get some spirit knowledge sister, then you won't be so confused.

I also pray that you start seeking the Lord God out with all your heart...so far I only see your own understanding of scripture...nothing Alive in Spirit coming out of your mouth.

I think you will agree that it doesn't matter how many questions I or anyone else answers or how many scriptures we post, neither you nor anyone can understand anything except the Lord Jesus Christ enlighten us, who is the light of the world.

He doesn’t enlighten me, he speaks to my heart/ spirit?

So no...that’s your belief it’s not mine.

We need to "buy" the truth (but sell it not) and we need to "buy" the oil for our lamps (God's word). No one can give it to you but God through Christ....who gives wisdom liberally without upbraiding to whosoever seeks and asks HIM for it. Just come to Him in sincerity and ask Him, and then rest in Him and wait for Him to download and reveal the understanding. It doesnt' always come right away, it can take weeks, and then He can sort of sneak it to us in a moment when we aren't on edge about it or trying to figure it out for ourselves, but are at rest.

Once again your belief...I don’t buy oil, that makes absolutely no sense to me...i continue to seek the Lord God out with all of my heart...like I tried to explain to you...you can’t seek God out reading a Bible.

I pray that you come to understand that God is a Living Spirit..that His Living Witness/testimony speaks to our hearts...you will see that the Bible confirms this.

You seem to be very confused on what you believe it means to be Born Again...I pray for you in that area.

Gal 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, WHICH IS CHRIST.


And Jesus is the seed being spoken of here (corn of wheat) which He spoke about Himself just before His crucifixion:

Jhn 12:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.



And here HIS word and gospel is being likened to seed:

Mat 13:18-23

Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

We are Born Again of imperishable seed, which is Gods Living testimony @Lizbeth ....what do you think penetrates our spirit, when it becomes Born Again...

If you believe and are saved...then that means that you are Born Again...you can’t believe ..not until you are Born Again....then what are we saved from?

Once our spirit is Born Again...reconciled back to God?

 

[Ritajanice]

Try reading the whole of what JESUS told nichodemus . not just twisting the parts calvin taught .
But aside from this , do you realize
WHY you first came after me many months ago .
ITs the same reason you always come after me .
Guess what it is ritajanice . In the beginning we got along , THEN I DARED to make MENTION
that we ought to be READING OUR BIBLES and all war began .
Then later you come back , we get along for a time
TILL ONCE again i make the mentoin we need to be reading the bible .
NOW WHY IS THAT RITA . what is it about that reminder that really bothers you so much .
I mean it literally triggers you wild in a frenzy when i even dare make mentoin of it .
Every time i make mention of the dire need to be reading the bible , YOU begin with a mission
a frenzy to all of a sudden try and remind me OF WHAT I ALREADY KNOW , that one MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
Ritjanice what about the reminder to be reading them scrips and testing all men
BOTHERS YOU so much . This lamb already knows the answer , but i dont think you yet do .
SO i suggest again we get in the bible to learn for ourselves .

I don’t need to read the whole of what Jesus told Nicodemus how we are Born Of The Spirit.

The rest is not needed...that is what you believe it means, I disagree with you 100%....as Jesus told Nicodemus the Spirit is like the wind , you can’t see the Spirit and you never know when he will birth his child.

You have twisted that scripture to say exactly what you want it to say...I will stick with Jesus words, as that is exactly how I was Born Of The Spirit...

It came completely out of the blue and was like a bolt of lightning.....as in....The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God...this all happened as he was coming through my body and taking up residence in my spirt.

This is exactly how I became Born Of The Spirit just as Gods word says.

John 3:1-21​

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New International Version​

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Jesus Teaches Nicodemus​

3 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]”
4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d]


Now @amigo de christo you now tell me what it means to be Born Of The Spirit?

 

[IronMaiden]

like I tried to explain to you...you can’t seek God out reading a Bible.

… but that’s how a Christian learns. We study.
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

I don’t need to read the whole of what Jesus told Nicodemus how we are Born Of The Spirit.

The rest is not needed...that is what you believe it means, I disagree with you 100%....as Jesus told Nicodemus the Spirit is like the wind , you can’t see the Spirit and you never know when he will birth his child.

You have twisted that scripture to say exactly what you want it to say...I will stick with Jesus words, as that is exactly how I was Born Of The Spirit...

It came completely out of the blue and was like a bolt of lightning.....as in....The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God...this all happened as he was coming through my body and taking up residence in my spirt.

OF course you dont NEED to read the WHOLE of what JESUS told Nicodemus
cause IF YA DID you would have seen ITS ABOUT HAVING TO BELIEVE HIM .
You do realize what is going on ritajanice .
DO you realize we have us a whole generation in large doing just this .
Allow me to explain .
We have people amongst us who do not really like to read the bible for themselves anymore .
cause parts of it omits what they really desire to believe .
SO what they do is sit and listen to men who might use a scrip here and there
THEN if the scrip was twisted JUST the right way as to support what THEY WANTED to BELEIVE
and not rather what it said , THEY THINK THEY JUST GOT HEART KNOWELDGE FROM GOD .
WHEN IN TRUTH it didnt COME FROM GOD at all .
THEY THINK HE is giving them heart knowledge when all along they are being groomed
only to hear WHAT IT IS THEY THEMSELVES desired to hear , NOT WHAT GOD was ever saying .
MANY cling to what they THINK is heart knowledge and yet ritajanice , my dear sister
when i compare their HEART KNOWLEDGE they thought was of GOD
IT SURE DO CONTRADICT HIS WRITTEN WORDS . not good .

 

[Ritajanice]

… but that’s how a Christian learns. We study.
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

I’m Born Again, I am led through scripture by the Spirit?

Do you lead yourself through scripture?

 

[IronMaiden]

I’m Born Again, I am led through scripture by the Spirit?

Do you lead yourself through scripture?

No, the Holy Spirit is my Teacher.

 

[amigo de christo]

I’m Born Again, I am led through scripture by the Spirit?

Do you lead yourself through scripture?

Now you come to defend the very scrips , THAT ALL I DID was remind us we need to be reading them .
Now you come with am i leading myself . well allow me to answer that .
NO mam. GOD PUT the desire and love for TRUTH in my heart ritajanice .
I watch you sister . your repsonses will often even contradict other repsonses you made .
SO my question to you , I DID answer yours , i said NO I DONT lead me , GOD does .
IN fact were it not For HIS LEADING my desire would not even be for the truth but rather for lusts of fleshly desires .
SO why is it ritjanice that every time i BRING up the REMINDER we NEED TO be reading the scrips
DO ya always come after me .
I discern why this is ritjance . The answer is gonna scare you a bit .
HOWEVER i have real good news and lets take heed to it .
GOD desires life for you and good for you . SO I suggest you open the bible for yourself
and enjoy just reading it for yourself . I am here ONLY to try and help .

 

[amigo de christo]

No, the Holy Spirit is my Teacher.

YES the HOLY SPIRIT is our teacher .
And Has put a love for Truth upon our hearts .
Yet why is it so many had rather heed men who at best TWIST truth
rather than just learning OF GOD , OF THE SPIRIT , the TRUTH HE INSPIRED in that bible .
Just a friendly question , BUT A VERY IMPROTANT one i hope you snap some people awake .
Something is going amiss big time within christendom and more so as of late .
PEOPLE are being run by what they THINK is GOD , IS HIS SPIRIT . only it contradicts HIS words .

 

[Ritajanice]

OF course you dont NEED to read the WHOLE of what JESUS told Nicodemus
cause IF YA DID you would have seen ITS ABOUT HAVING TO BELIEVE HIM .
You do realize what is going on ritajanice .

Do you realise that you can’t know or believe in Jesus without being Born Again?

DO you realize we have us a whole generation in large doing just this .
Allow me to explain .
We have people amongst us who do not really like to read the bible for themselves anymore .
cause parts of it omits what they really desire to believe .

You do the same, you omitt parts that you don’t understand.....and skate over them, as we can see, when I ask you questions..

I asked you a question..as you are familiar with that scripture, you tell me what Born Of The Spirit means?

SO what they do is sit and listen to men who might use a scrip here and there
THEN if the scrip was twisted JUST the right way as to support what THEY WANTED to BELEIVE
and not rather what it said ,

You do exactly the same thing...we are Born Of The Spirit?..if we are Born Of The Spirit, then of course we can then believe in our hearts ..as our spirit has been birthed...you can’t believe in Jesus without being Born Of The Spirit.

THEY THINK THEY JUST GOT HEART KNOWELDGE FROM GOD .
WHEN IN TRUTH it didnt COME FROM GOD at all .

Says you...as long as I know in my spirit that I’m Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

Your words above are your words...they come out of your mouth...they have no life in them.dead words, that dissipate the moment that they come from “ you”...I know exactly what you are going to say before you even post...the same old regurgitated nonsense...day in day out.......

THEY THINK HE is giving them heart knowledge when all along they are being groomed
only to hear WHAT IT IS THEY THEMSELVES desired to hear , NOT WHAT GOD was ever saying .
MANY cling to what they THINK is heart knowledge and yet ritajanice , my dear sister
when i compare their HEART KNOWLEDGE they thought was of GOD
IT SURE DO CONTRADICT HIS WRITTEN WORDS . not good .

Scriptures prove you wrong..which I’ve posted many times..plus Gods Living testimony proves you wrong.

 

[Ritajanice]

Now you come to defend the very scrips , THAT ALL I DID was remind us we need to be reading them .

No , you keep telling me to read the scriptures...I told you that I am led through scripture by the Spirit in his timing..therefore I say no!..I’m not in any dire need to read the scriptures.

I also believe in and know of Jesus, because my spirit is Born Again...belief won’t get you into the Kingdom Of God.

Gods word says...We must be Born Of water and spirit to see the Kingdom Of God, anyone can say they believe...my Son believes...but he ain’t Born Again..yet..praying that he becomes Born Again in his spirit...he believes in his head though, that’s a start.

Now you come with am i leading myself . well allow me to answer that .
NO mam. GOD PUT the desire and love for TRUTH in my heart ritajanice .

Good for you..God put the desire in my heart/ spirit to know his heart...His Living Heart...I seek him out daily as my spirit is Born Again...my spirit craves to hear from his Living testimony, all day every day and I DO!!

I watch you sister . your repsonses will often even contradict other repsonses you made .

I don’t care who you watch and how much that you think I contradict the word...I take no heed of a strangers voice, which yours is to me...I hear the voice of the Spirit speaking to my heart...I recognise no life of the Spirit coming out of your mouth....just regurgitated nonsense.

SO my question to you , I DID answer yours , i said NO I DONT lead me , GOD does .
IN fact were it not For HIS LEADING my desire would not even be for the truth but rather for lusts of fleshly desires .
SO why is it ritjanice that every time i BRING up the REMINDER we NEED TO be reading the scrips
DO ya always come after me .

I will come after you, when you keep telling me to read the scriptures...because you are not my leader teacher....I don’t recognise the Spirit in your voice..I only recognise you...

I discern why this is ritjance . The answer is gonna scare you a bit .
HOWEVER i have real good news and lets take heed to it .
GOD desires life for you and good for you . SO I suggest you open the bible for yourself
and enjoy just reading it for yourself . I am here ONLY to try and help .

I suggest that you put your bible down and seek the Lord God out with all your heart, mind and soul..

I believe the Spirit is asking you to do this through me....you are obsessed with the Bible...when you should be obsessed with the Living Spirit Of God.

 

[IronMaiden]

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YES the HOLY SPIRIT is our teacher .
And Has put a love for Truth upon our hearts .
Yet why is it so many had rather heed men who at best TWIST truth
rather than just learning OF GOD , OF THE SPIRIT , the TRUTH HE INSPIRED in that bible .
Just a friendly question , BUT A VERY IMPROTANT one i hope you snap some people awake .
Something is going amiss big time within christendom and more so as of late .
PEOPLE are being run by what they THINK is GOD , IS HIS SPIRIT . only it contradicts HIS words .

Yes, we’re living in those latter days when people left and right will be deceived by a one-world system where this interfaith junk will be accepted as something so so good, when it’s nothing but evil. Yep, they will be deceived because they will not read what God has written. They would rather believe the lies where wrong is good and good is wrong. Why? They’re not reading God’s letter to us—the very Book of Truth that will set people free.

 

[Ritajanice]

No, the Holy Spirit is my Teacher.

Gods Living testimony/ witness is my teacher / helper..

How do you know that the Holy Spirit is your teacher?

 

[IronMaiden]

Gods Living testimony/ witness is my teacher / helper..

How do you know that the Holy Spirit is your teacher?

… because I have made Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior.

 

[Ritajanice]

l. Yep, they will be deceived because they will not read what God has written

Many will also be deceived because they have come to believe that the Bible is God...many are deceived not knowing that God is a Living Spirit?

Many idolise and worship the Bible...instead of worshipping the Living God, from within their spirit?

How can you worship God in Spirit and truth, if one’s spirit isn’t Born Again?

How are we reconciled back to the Spirit Of God?.. @LatterRain ?

 

[Ritajanice]

… because I have made Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior.

I’m afraid no one you say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

Plus we don’t make him our Lord and Savior......we don’t know anything without the Spirit or being Born Of The Spirit?

Maybe you have made him your Lord and Savior by following and reading the Bible.

That is not how we are Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again/ regenerated/ Born Again of incorruptible seed?

Reading a Bible confirms how we are Born Again...no amount of reading will birth anyone’s spirit.

 

[IronMaiden]

Many will also be deceived because they have come to believe that the Bible is God...many are deceived not knowing that God is a Living Spirit?

Many idolise and worship the Bible...instead of worshipping the Living God, from within their spirit?

…but the Bible is God-breathed; it is the Word of God Himself.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[IronMaiden]

I’m afraid no one you say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

Plus we don’t make him our Lord and Savior......we don’t know anything without the Spirit or being Born Of The Spirit?

Maybe you have made him your Lord and Savior by following and reading the Bible.

That is not how we are Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again/ regenerated/ Born Again of incorruptible seed?

Reading a Bible confirms how we are Born Again...no amount of reading will birth anyone’s spirit.

Jesus IS The Holy Spirit.