Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[Lizbeth]

What you have posted before wasn’t biblical.

What you post above. has no mention of being Born Again...that is what you believe it’s saying..it’s not.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.....you too are a Bible reader and bring everything to your own understanding...as we see above.....that scripture is not saying how we are Born Again.

Jesus Christ is that imperishable seed we are born of sister. The Word made flesh and whose word, written or spoken, we are to hear and heed.

Don't you know this scripture after all this time?

Jhn 15:26-27

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

The Spirit testifies of JESUS CHRIST.........and we are also to testify of Him.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen.
And yet calvinism teaches that God will actually choose some for hell FOR NO REASON AT ALL...
except for His good pleasure.


Yes. Something in the church is dead wrong....
And we must stand up to it and declare that it is wrong.

Guess many have forgotten the wise saying that paul , UNDER INFLUENCE of THE SPIRIT wrote .
Dont ya know that a little leaven will leaven the whole lump .
Tis the duty of the church to always correct error for error always and can only beget error .
This seeker friendly rick warren led mess has ship wrecked this generation and now it runs
only deeper and deeper into more leaven and even into the preaching of unbeleif .
Error cannot produce truth . and if left uncorrected PRODUCES MORE LEAVEN till in time
ITS ALL TANKED . so much for the false version the judge not correct nots sold this church age
as it twisted the judge not OUT OF text to support a judge not that corrects not .
There is the love of the world , and the LOVE OF GOD . and one cannot try and sit at both places .
The love of the world , the lust of the eyes , pride of life , cares and pleasures in life , WILL SURELY CHOKE the WORD .
Only most follow this love of the world and overtime boy has it convinced them to love what is unholy
and to HATE what is HOLY . folks got no idea what went on . Many have no idea
of what Todays chistainity has lost , nor that they are too still lost . many follow another jesus
and i warn us all that one cannot save .

 

[Ritajanice]

Amen.
And there you have it....
the simple gospel...
the simple truth....
God loves His best creation--- man
and would want that all be saved.
1 Timothy 2:4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

God says we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...

 

[Lizbeth]

This is scripture...tell me where it mentions being Born Again?

What has this scripture got to do with being Born Of The Spirit?

I suggest you seek spirit knowledge/heart revelation of this sister. I can't give it to you, only God in Christ can.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen.
And there you have it....
the simple gospel...
the simple truth....
God loves His best creation--- man
and would want that all be saved.
1 Timothy 2:4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Peter wrote it too .
But i guess to some john calvin had it right . Well i aint one of THE SOME my friend .
YOU see i have a real simple saying . And i can by no means cliam i came up with it
BUT I SURE WILL USE IT .
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar , that thou might be justified and overcome when thou art judged .
MEN have the ability to lie . BUT GOD is not a man that HE can lie .
SO HIS WORDS BE TRUE , mens words be tested against HIS WORDS
and if mens words fall short and contradict , THEMS DONT GET HEEDED by this lamb .
FOR GOD IS TRUE .

 

[amigo de christo]

God says we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...

YES . we know this rita . HE also says YE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
He also says a lot of other things .
Try brining some of those too . rather than constantly reminding us of what we already know .
You use this not to support other scrips but rather to omit other scrips . THAT IS REAL bad ritajanice .

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus Christ is that imperishable seed we are born of sister. The Word made flesh and whose word, written or spoken, we are to hear and heed.

Not biblical...your words...show me using scripture these exact words...these are from your mouth, not the word of God?

Don't you know this scripture after all this time?

Jhn 15:26-27

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Now you tell me how and where does he testify this truth?

And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

You have just posted one verse out of context?

The Spirit testifies of JESUS CHRIST.....

Which means what?

....and we are also to testify of Him.

How do you know to testify of Jesus.

I’ve answered all of your questions..now please answer mine?

 

[Ritajanice]

YES . we know this rita . HE also says YE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
He also says a lot of other things .
Try brining some of those too . rather than constantly reminding us of what we already know .
You use this not to support other scrips but rather to omit other scrips . THAT IS REAL bad ritajanice .

You keep regurgitating the same old same old...when are you going to answer my questions.?

As of yet, I’m still waiting...

You believe in Jesus....how do you know Jesus...that’s all I’m asking?

Do you believe in the Jesus Of The Bible?

Or do you know the Jesus in your spirit?

Did the Bible reconcile your spirit back to God ....what does that mean even.. @amigo de christo ....as all I see from you is the same regurgitated stuff coming out of you mouth.

Are you growing in your spirit?...if you are , then tell me how?

 

[Lizbeth]

I already did...what you posted wasn’t in the Bible...it came from your mouth....and what you think it means to be Born Again....therefore not Gods truth.

Try to stop adding to his word please.

The bible contains a lot more spirit knowledge than just the new birth. The new birth is only the beginning of the journey.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen.
And there you have it....
the simple gospel...
the simple truth....
God loves His best creation--- man
and would want that all be saved.
1 Timothy 2:4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Peoples sure seem to forget that GOSPEL means GOOD NEWS .
Rather than preaching calivin i suggest folks start preaching JESUS THE CHRIST . cause by grace I KNOW HE SAVES .
Rather than preaching the good news many try and preach what they believe is pre destination .
Rather than preaching the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST so as one can be saved
they preach rather a concept , how to put it , OH yeah , OF DEATH.
And often they have omitted the severity of GOD as well .
As well as the Goodness of GOD who desired NOT the death of the wicked but rather they repent to BELIEVE on JESUS THE CHRIST .
That is the one message i now see HARDLY ANYONE saying . OH they have lots of so called teachings
and so called reasonings , but not one of their fingers POINTS TO HE WHO SAVES and HOW one can be SAVED
by BELEIVING ON HIM . i would like to give all a simple challenge today
Compare how the church spoken of in the bible did things , TO HOW men do things today within churches .
YOU gonna see a stark difference and words twisted to support why they do as they do .

 

[Ritajanice]

The bible contains a lot more spirit knowledge than just the new birth. The new birth is only the beginning of the journey.

The Bible confirms that we are Born Of The Spirit...

What journey are you on...a Bible journey or a spiritual journey?

What is the difference?

 

[amigo de christo]

You keep regurgitating the same old same old...when are you going to answer my questions.?

As of yet, I’m still waiting...

You believe in Jesus....how do you know Jesus...that’s all I’m asking?

Do you believe in the Jesus Of The Bible?

Or do you know the Jesus in your spirit?

OH my dear dear ritajanice allow me to answer that with this
IF THE JESUS WHO dwells in ones heart CONTRADICTS the WORDS OF THE JESUS IN SAID BIBLE
IT AINT JESUS IN YA HEART sister . many THINK they have the love of GOD , many THINK they have JESUS CHRIST
within them . ONLY their jesus sure contradicts HIS OWN WORDS . NOT a good sign rita .
NOT a good sign at all .
SO allow me to remind us , ITS BIBLE TIME SISTAH . Let all examine what JESUS they been following all along .
was it the jesus created of men , OR THE JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF .
THE LIVING WORD dont contradict HIS WRITTEN WORD . that too is a fact . JESUS testifies of TRUTH
He dont contradict TRUTH . and EVERY WORD OF GOD BE TRUTH sister .

 

[Ritajanice]

Peoples sure seem to forget that GOSPEL means GOOD NEWS

The good news doesn’t birth our spirit, it’s because of the good news, that we can be Born Again?

 

[Ritajanice]

OH my dear dear ritajanice allow me to answer that with this
IF THE JESUS WHO dwells in ones heart CONTRADICTS the WORDS OF THE JESUS IN SAID BIBLE
IT AINT JESUS IN YA HEART sister . many THINK they have the love of GOD , many THINK they have JESUS CHRIST
within them . ONLY their jesus sure contradicts HIS OWN WORDS . NOT a good sign rita .
NOT a good sign at all .
SO allow me to remind us , ITS BIBLE TIME SISTAH . Let all examine what JESUS they been following all along .
was it the jesus created of men , OR THE JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF .
THE LIVING WORD dont contradict HIS WRITTEN WORD . that too is a fact . JESUS testifies of TRUTH
He dont contradict TRUTH . and EVERY WORD OF GOD BE TRUTH sister .

This is what you do...you regurgitate the same words day in day out...never to answer my questions...

Every one can see that.

Are you growing in spirit?...it seems like you are stuck in biblical knowledge...which is no knowledge at all...if you have no understanding of spiritual matters.

Are you Alive in Christ....or are you only alive when reading a Bible?

It’s about time @amigo de christo ..you started to seek God out with all your heart...his heart ain’t in the bible my friend.

 

[amigo de christo]

The good news doesn’t birth our spirit, it’s because of the good news, that we can be Born Again?

you keep parotting over and over again the same few lines .
Yet overlook exactly what The apostels themselves preached . and that was THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
The lost cannot be won by the many words of clever men , by the preaching of mans wisdom
THE LOST MUST rather have the dire need to beleive on JESUS preached to them .
You cannot pack an old wine bottle with fresh wine rita .
THEY MUST BELIEVE on HIM , and are made a new creature in HIM .
too many go about trying to reason with men through science , philsophies of men , through
wise sounding catch phrases and reasonings of men
GOTTA PREACH CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED sister .
Lest the cross of Christ be made of no effect . CANT win anyone to GOD
by allowing them to remain in UNBELIEF rita . THE GOSPEL has been silenced through this false lovey do stuff .
That upon its entrance got worse and worse and worse in time cause it came in under the cloak
that to correct those within the church was not loving
and now that has even increased to a delusoin so bad
it even thinks its not loving to try and warn the false religoins to repent and believe . HOW WORSE it has become sister .
IN such a short time it has grown wickedly bad .
Till now they eat only of the tables of men and use their teeth
to eat and to feast on uholy doctrine and then turn around and with those same teeth
TRY and tear anyone apart that actually brings THE BIBLICAL TRUTH TO THEM . turned them right into GOD HATERS SISTER .
but false love does that .

 

[amigo de christo]

seeker friendly allowed this nightmare to encapsulate whole churches .
Used to be men at least tried to hide their sin
HECK NOW THEY HONOR IT FOR ALL TO SEE . this generation has become as SODOM
they no longer even try to hide their sin , THEY PROFESS IT and LIVE IT and the churches believe
all is well in Christendom . Till now , now in this last hour
their inquity has grown to be hateful and the sour bud now ripens in the vine of this earth .
And as the sour bud ripens sadly most churches hollers HERE COMES THE GOOD FRUIT .
And they cast out the words of GOD behind them and any and all who dares speak His words
to correct them . Their teeth have become razor sharp against any and all
who would even dare use GODS OWN INSPIRED words to show them TRUTH and correct their error .
My question is , BUT WHAT WILL THEY DO on the DAY OF THE LORD . weep and wail .
FOR THOUGH GOD desired not their death , THEY REBELLED greatly against him and became worse and worse
thinking and saying WE SEE and yet are blind leading only the blind right to the pit of perdition .

 

[Ritajanice]

you keep parotting over and over again the same few lines .
Yet overlook exactly what The apostels themselves preached . and that was THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS THE CHRIST .

Are you going to answer the question..instead of skating over it...the Gospel or hearing the gospel does not birth our spirit?
Anyone can say they believe...that’s not enough....we must be Born Again..see my post on another thread below.
Regardless of what you believe.

The lost cannot be won by the many words of clever men , by the preaching of mans wisdom
THE LOST MUST rather have the dire need to beleive on JESUS preached to them .
You cannot pack an old wine bottle with fresh wine rita .
THEY MUST BELIEVE on HIM , and are made a new creature in HIM .
too many go about trying to reason with men through science , philsophies of men , through
wise sounding catch phrases and reasonings of men
GOTTA PREACH CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED sister .
Lest the cross of Christ be made of no effect . CANT win anyone to GOD
by allowing them to remain in UNBELIEF rita . THE GOSPEL has been silenced through this false lovey do stuff .
That upon its entrance got worse and worse and worse in time cause it came in under the cloak
that to correct those within the church was not loving
and now that has even increased to a delusoin so bad
it even thinks its not loving to try and warn the false religoins to repent and believe . HOW WORSE it has become sister .
IN such a short time it has grown wickedly bad .
Till now they eat only of the tables of men and use their teeth
to eat and to feast on uholy doctrine and then turn around and with those same teeth
TRY and tear anyone apart that actually brings THE BIBLICAL TRUTH TO THEM . turned them right into GOD HATERS SISTER .
but false love does that .

Once again you have just regurgitated what you speak on the forums daily.

Here is another post that I posted on another thread.

Do you understand what I’m saying here?

I’ve given up on asking you to answer my other questions, you obviously don’t understand them, but are to proud to say so.


A Born Again is already in the Kingdom Of God.....which is not of the world.....the Kingdom of God is spiritual , plus it can’t be seen on the earth today, but I can assure you that it’s there.....God is a Living Spirit.we are his spirit children.

The Kingdom Of God has always been here, only I wasn’t a part of it, not until the chosen timing of God...that is when I woke up or came Alive in Gods truth.= Spirit gives birth to spirit...that is when I could see his Kingdom...not with human eyes or ears that I see.....with spiritual eyes and ears that I received, when my spirit became “ Born Again “.

You must be “ Born Again “ to see the Kingdom Of God.....

 

[Ritajanice]

 

[amigo de christo]

Are you going to answer the question..instead of skating over it...the Gospel or hearing the gospel does not birth our spirit?

Regardless of what you believe.

Once again you have just regurgitated what you speak on the forums daily.

Here is another post that I posted on another thread.

Do you understand what I’m saying here?

I’ve given up on asking you to answer my other questions, you obviously don’t understand them, but are to proud to say so.


A Born Again is already in the Kingdom Of God.....which is not of the world.....the Kingdom of God is spiritual , plus it can’t be seen on the earth today, but I can assure you that it’s there.....God is a Living Spirit.we are his spirit children.

The Kingdom Of God has always been here, only I wasn’t a part of it, not until the chosen timing of God...that is when I woke up or came Alive in Gods truth.= Spirit gives birth to spirit...that is when I could see his Kingdom...not with human eyes or ears that I see.....with spiritual eyes and ears that I received, when my spirit became “ Born Again “.

You must be “ Born Again “ to see the Kingdom Of God.....

Many do have the gospel preached to them and they reject it .
If one hears and rejects it whose fault ya really think it is sister many try and blame GOD
but i say THE FAULT IS ALL ON THEM sister . What says you . do you really wanna blame GOD
for the fault lies on man NOT GOD . I suggest we all start reading our bible again .
There is no new creature in an unbeliever sister . The unbeleiver IS NOT SEALED with that HOLY SPIRIT of promise rita .
HERE is who is sealed . now read carefully .
After WHOM ye BELIEVED IN , you were SEALED with that SPIRIT of promise .
NOW I know its only the SPIRIT that draws one .
I suggest we preach JESUS the CHRIST to these poor lost souls , and when i say poor lost souls
SADLY i speak not just of the false religoins but a whole lot within even Christendom .

 

[Lizbeth]

Not biblical...your words...show me using scripture these exact words...these are from your mouth, not the word of God?

Now you tell me how and where does he testify this truth?




You have just posted one verse out of context?

Which means what?

How do you know to testify of Jesus.

I’ve answered all of your questions..now please answer mine?

I pray you will go get some spirit knowledge sister, then you won't be so confused. I think you will agree that it doesn't matter how many questions I or anyone else answers or how many scriptures we post, neither you nor anyone can understand anything except the Lord Jesus Christ enlighten us, who is the light of the world. We need to "buy" the truth (but sell it not) and we need to "buy" the oil for our lamps (God's word). No one can give it to you but God through Christ....who gives wisdom liberally without upbraiding to whosoever seeks and asks HIM for it. Just come to Him in sincerity and ask Him, and then rest in Him and wait for Him to download and reveal the understanding. It doesnt' always come right away, it can take weeks, and then He can sort of sneak it to us in a moment when we aren't on edge about it or trying to figure it out for ourselves, but are at rest.

Gal 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, WHICH IS CHRIST.


And Jesus is the seed being spoken of here (corn of wheat) which He spoke about Himself just before His crucifixion:

Jhn 12:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.



And here HIS word and gospel is being likened to seed:

Mat 13:18-23

Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.