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amigo de christo

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God's living testimony testifies to our heart/spirit to His Son, Jesus Christ. "....this is my beloved Son, HEAR YE HIM."
BULLSEYE .
Yet many think Gods living testimony simply says OH do good works , dont judge , dont correct
just find common ground and try and attain world peace n safety .
 

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I have told you over and over and over again that the Spirit draws us to Christ .
Then what?..do you understand what faith from God is @amigo de christo ?
Rita you answer just like the many who are in love with the judge not correct not card .
HOW much more leaven must come in before YOU ALL realize that card DONT WORK
IT only allows leaven to grow and error keeps begetting more error .
This doom and gloom you claim i speak of , I cant even hold a candle
to what paul and the true apostles would have said and done to this generation and its acceptance
of error . You think i am grave . Please read the bible and YOU SEE
how they instructed the church concerning sin and error within it .
And you see how they instructed people and how they preached the gospel .
You see what they did to those who rejected CHRIST , a hint they didnt just try and find common ground rita .
THEY warned them and shook the dust off and departed from them .
You see how they did things . And then before you are tempted to tell me OH that was two thousand years ago
AS you did the day before yesterday , TRY REMEMBERING GOD dont change
HIS pattern does not change . THEY HAD the right correct pattern for doing all things rita. ITS THIS generation that is dead wrong sister .
What have you been saved from? that’s my question.



I don’t want to hear the same regurgitated nonsense that comes out of your mouth...I don’t read it.

Please answer my question?thank you.

What have you been saved from?

Plus how do you know that Jesus died and was resurrected?

You are a Bible reader @amigo de christo .
You are a Bible worshipper...
Your spirit knowledge is non existent....because you NEVER answer Spirit questions?
 
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BULLSEYE .
Yet many think Gods living testimony simply says OH do good works , dont judge , dont correct
just find common ground and try and attain world peace n safety .
Scripture please, that you say is BULLSEYE....those exact words that Lizbeth posted.thanks.

Word for word..as it’s very confusing to me...
 

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Your posts are correct Amigo....
When a calvinist is asked HOW a person is saved...the reply is always elusive.
Why?
Because they hate to say that a person can do nothing to save themselves because it's
God that is going to choose who is saved and who is damned.
Even to them this must sound horrible.

And, as you correctly pointed out:
The gospel means, simply, the good news.
And what is the good news?
God, being a JUST GOD, will offer to EVERY PERSON the opportunity to be saved.
Plenty of verses on this.

Just 2 requirements:
1. Believe in Jesus/God.
2. Obey Him.

Pretty easy.
MY YOKE is easy my burden is light . YEP . And HE sure does equip and seal those WHO DO BELIEVE
with that HOLY SPIRIT by which HE now unctions them and gives them the ability , the desire to do good and what is pleasing in HIS
sight .
AS FOR THE CALL as to who can be saved . WHO is it for
And let HE WHOMSOEVER WILL COME and DRINK of the water of life .
WHO SO EVER WILL let HIM COME ...........
Written in revelation for all to see for themselves .
DO you ever get the feeling MEN really messed things up BIG TIME .
SO now i leave us with a message GIVEN OF GOD long long long ago .
I HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED but rather that he repent .
GOD said that .
WHY will ye die .
GOD desires the death of none . HE desires their life . THAT is why HE SENT the SON
so that all who would BELIEVE on HIM would not perish BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE .
Jerusalem , Jerusalem HOW OFTEN I WOULD HAVE GATHERED thee as a mother hen her chicks
ONLY , only , YE WOULD NOT .
Take note that did not say Jerusalem , Jeruslamen , how often would I have gathered thee
but john calivin said YE WAS PREDESITNED TO HELL . something IS DEAD WRONG SISTER .
 

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What have you been saved from? that’s my question.



I don’t want to hear the same regurgitated nonsense that comes out of your mouth...I don’t read it.

Please answer my question?thank you.

What have you been saved from?

Plus how do you know that Jesus died and was resurrected?
I been saved from DEATH rita , freed from sin .
THERE be only ONE way and ONE NAME that can save this people
All are under the sentence of death , all will perish
LEST THEY BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
They will be damned Rita . And all the so called hugs in the world
and so called good works they may have done
THERE IS NONE WHO IS GOOD RITA , but GOD .
Their works cannot save them . And any who thinks these false religoins OR ANY
can attain to the righteousness of GOD , be JUSTIFIED IN HIS SIGHT
by their so called love or works , HAS NO IDEA of the HOLINESS and THE RIGHTEOUS STANDARDS of THIS HOLY GOD
and are BLIND to even their own wickedness and depravity , WHICH CANNOT SAVE THEM .
OH i know the world as a version of what it thinks is love and is good , BUT I TELL YA
IT cant even begin to measure up to the standards of what GOD considers to be GOOD in HIS SIGHT .
And always remember , JESUS AINT the minstir of any ones rainbow or sin . SO if ya jesus
is overlooking sins and says ITS bad to correct sins within the church , IT AINT JESUS
and if ya jesus is co helper to holding the rainbow of men high , IT AINT JESUS .
And if ya jesus is kissing korans and budda statues and preaching interafaith , IT AINT JESUS . its anti christ rita .
AND its time the church flee the love of men and LEARN THE LOVE OF GOD .
 

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What were you saved from, that’s all I’m asking you?

What does that even mean?
I’m not ranting...
We are saved from satan's grip.

Ephesians 6:11-16
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.


Matthew 4:8-11
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
 

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MY YOKE is easy my burden is light . YEP . And HE sure does equip and seal those WHO DO BELIEVE
with that HOLY SPIRIT by which HE now unctions them and gives them the ability , the desire to do good and what is pleasing in HIS
sight .
AS FOR THE CALL as to who can be saved . WHO is it for
And let HE WHOMSOEVER WILL COME and DRINK of the water of life .
WHO SO EVER WILL let HIM COME ...........
Written in revelation for all to see for themselves .
DO you ever get the feeling MEN really messed things up BIG TIME .
SO now i leave us with a message GIVEN OF GOD long long long ago .
I HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED but rather that he repent .
GOD said that .
Amen.
And yet calvinism teaches that God will actually choose some for hell FOR NO REASON AT ALL...
except for His good pleasure.

WHY will ye die .
GOD desires the death of none . HE desires their life . THAT is why HE SENT the SON
so that all who would BELIEVE on HIM would not perish BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE .
Jerusalem , Jerusalem HOW OFTEN I WOULD HAVE GATHERED thee as a mother hen her chicks
ONLY , only , YE WOULD NOT .
Take note that did not say Jerusalem , Jeruslamen , how often would I have gathered thee
but john calivin said YE WAS PREDESITNED TO HELL . something IS DEAD WRONG SISTER .
Yes. Something in the church is dead wrong....
And we must stand up to it and declare that it is wrong.
 

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We are saved from satan's grip.
When our spirit is Born Again we are then saved from eternal damnation/ we are reconciled back to God in our spirit.

That’s why we need to be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

You too are a Bible reader and have no spiritual knowledge whatsoever.
 

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Scripture that says exactly that please?..thanks.
You can go search the word for yourself sister.

And those who have spirit knowledge also understand what this is saying:

Heb 1:4-6

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
 

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Ephesians 6:11-16
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this
Tell me how you would know how to put on the full armour of God.?
 

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When our spirit is Born Again we are then saved from eternal damnation/ we are reconciled back to God in our spirit.

That’s why we need to be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

You too are a Bible reader and have no spiritual knowledge whatsoever.
Thanks you Ritajanice...
always a pleasure to post to you.
You're such an edifying person....

And THIS, your reply, is the reason I don't post to you.
 

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You can go search the word for yourself sister.

And those who have spirit knowledge also understand what this is saying:

Heb 1:4-6

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
What you have posted before wasn’t biblical.

What you post above. has no mention of being Born Again...that is what you believe it’s saying..it’s not.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.....you too are a Bible reader and bring everything to your own understanding...as we see above.....that scripture is not saying how we are Born Again.
 

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Thanks you Ritajanice...
always a pleasure to post to you.
You're such an edifying person....

And THIS, your reply, is the reason I don't post to you.
The reason you don’t reply back is..you have no understanding of what I post, anyone can see that.

You still can’t answer the questions I ask of you.

When you became Born Again, wasn’t your spirit reconciled back to God, seeing as you were Born Of The Spirit?

How do you think that we are reconciled back to God?
 

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You should know by now that I'm not responding to your rantings.
You might think you're in Theology 101...
but you're not.
what men so often overlook is WHAT was actually PREDESTINED .
That JESUS would come and that all who do beleive would be saved and have eternal life
All who beleive not would be damned .
That was pre determined BY GOD long , long ago .
It was determined by GOD and our faith IN CHRIST JESUS giveth HIM ALL THE GLORY .
And they repented not to GIVE HIM THE GLORY . that too is written in revelation .
The question folks need to ask
is the one the apostels asked him when they marveled at his words .
LORD WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED .
And HIS ANSWER , WITH MEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE , BUT NOT WITH GOD .
AND GOD pre determined exactly HOW to save men .
FOR it pleased GOD by the preaching of the gospel to save THEM WHO DO BELIEVE.
FOR GOD so loved , Take note that says FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD . SO LOVED THE WORLD .
that HE sent HIS ONLY begotten SON so that all who do BELIEVE ON HIM would not perish but have everlasting life .
THAT WAS and STILL IS HIS PLAN . it aint changed just cause men might try and say it has .
 

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You can go search the word for yourself sister.
I already did...what you posted wasn’t in the Bible...it came from your mouth....and what you think it means to be Born Again....therefore not Gods truth.

Try to stop adding to his word please.
 

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Heb 1:4-6

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
This is scripture...tell me where it mentions being Born Again?

What has this scripture got to do with being Born Of The Spirit?
 

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what men so often overlook is WHAT was actually PREDESTINED .
That JESUS would come and that all who do beleive would be saved and have eternal life
All who beleive not would be damned .
That was pre determined BY GOD long , long ago .
It was determined by GOD and our faith IN CHRIST JESUS giveth HIM ALL THE GLORY .
And they repented not to GIVE HIM THE GLORY . that too is written in revelation .
The question folks need to ask
is the one the apostels asked him when they marveled at his words .
LORD WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED .
And HIS ANSWER , WITH MEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE , BUT NOT WITH GOD .
AND GOD pre determined exactly HOW to save men .
FOR it pleased GOD by the preaching of the gospel to save THEM WHO DO BELIEVE.
FOR GOD so loved , Take note that says FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD . SO LOVED THE WORLD .
that HE sent HIS ONLY begotten SON so that all who do BELIEVE ON HIM would not perish but have everlasting life .
THAT WAS and STILL IS HIS PLAN . it aint changed just cause men might try and say it has .
Amen.
And there you have it....
the simple gospel...
the simple truth....
God loves His best creation--- man
and would want that all be saved.
1 Timothy 2:4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
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